Conquer Club

Blitzaholic wrote:Farming to me is joining team 2 with ? marks constantly and not deviating to you reach that score. The word farming did not even exist back then.

ljex wrote:

Blitzaholic wrote:Farming to me is joining team 2 with ? marks constantly and not deviating to you reach that score. The word farming did not even exist back then.

Then how are kp, demonfork and king herpes listed as farmers...

Also i find it interesting that you list these three as farmers and not KOG as they all had a similar method of becoming #1

karelpietertje wrote:Actually, Blitzy, I never felt like you respected any of the freestyle conquerors, at least not for their Conqueror title

Cheers, KP

Scott-Land wrote:

karelpietertje wrote:Actually, Blitzy, I never felt like you respected any of the freestyle conquerors, at least not for their Conqueror title

Cheers, KP

Not quite true-- he holds Snapo and Poo in high regard...would go out on a limb and say myself as well. Can't say he's disrespected anyone on the list-...although very proud of his clan mates which is only natural and should be appreciated.

Bones2484 wrote:Firth, just make your own thread then.

This one, along with JR's "high scores" thread aren't official and include terrible biases and grudges. You are free to make your own list and mark anyone you want as a farmer/cheat as well.

demonfork wrote:

Bones2484 wrote:Firth, just make your own thread then.

This one, along with JR's "high scores" thread aren't official and include terrible biases and grudges. You are free to make your own list and mark anyone you want as a farmer/cheat as well.

I would tend to agree with this...It's Blitz's thread and its not official. If Blitz wants to label me as a farmer on his list it's his prerogative to do so.

That said, it would be nice of Blitz to clarify as to what criteria he used to determine that I made Conqueror by means of "farming" as well as what his definition of "farming" is.

Yes I made it to the number 1 spot by primarily playing 1v1 freestyle but 99% of the games that I played that got me to #1 were public games that were open to anyone that wished to join them. Making it to #1 was by no means an easy feat to accomplish, towards the end I had to win 20+ games to make up for just 1 loss. In the end I took over the #1 position by challenging the, at the time current Conqueror and best CC player ever King_Herpes, to a series of 1v1's which I was lucky enough to prevail in. Anyone that was there to witness those games will agree that they were intense, hard fought battles that truly gave me the opportunity to not only bring all of my hard work, dedication, sacrifice and skill to the table, but also to once again show that King_Herpes is the greatest of all time. That series of games were the most challenging and provided the most fun for me of any of the 5000 plus games that I have played in the 2 years that I have been here. After it was all said and done and I finally got to see the red star next to my name it was an awesome feeling and I looked back at everything it took over the prior year to make it to that moment and I realized that it was one of the hardest goals, that I ever set for myself, to make (including getting my graduate degree in engineering).

If Blitz wants to equate my accomplishment to "farming" I honestly have no problem with it because myself and many others know otherwise. Besides that, there will always be haters, it comes with the territory.

Bruceswar wrote:

Scott-Land wrote:

karelpietertje wrote:Actually, Blitzy, I never felt like you respected any of the freestyle conquerors, at least not for their Conqueror title

Cheers, KP

Not quite true-- he holds Snapo and Poo in high regard...would go out on a limb and say myself as well. Can't say he's disrespected anyone on the list-...although very proud of his clan mates which is only natural and should be appreciated.

Not quite true... he had sjnap listed as a farmer until sjnap pointed him out as wrong. As for poo, he played so many styles it is hard to pin him down to 1 style. P.S. He should add every active clan on the list rather than just THOTA. Looks very tacky

poo-maker wrote:This whole "farming" business is a bit silly and biased if you ask me. The term has only been coined in the last couple years in CC and as a result people tend to use it more with the more recent conquerors. It's a fact that the old conquerors that got to the top playing seq team games have strategies that could now be regarded as "farming" techniques such as having players with low scores but that could follow orders join their teams, joining in second against a team of fremium low-ranks and just waiting days for their team games to get to the front page and to get filled by newbies. Top players get to the top by pushing their advantages in games vs weaker players, the only REAL farming that was ever done in CC was done by people like Klobber- winning games vs deadbeats.....

Blitzaholic wrote:

poo-maker wrote:This whole "farming" business is a bit silly and biased if you ask me. The term has only been coined in the last couple years in CC and as a result people tend to use it more with the more recent conquerors. It's a fact that the old conquerors that got to the top playing seq team games have strategies that could now be regarded as "farming" techniques such as having players with low scores but that could follow orders join their teams, joining in second against a team of fremium low-ranks and just waiting days for their team games to get to the front page and to get filled by newbies. Top players get to the top by pushing their advantages in games vs weaker players, the only REAL farming that was ever done in CC was done by people like Klobber- winning games vs deadbeats.....

and rabbiton did this by joining last and winning over 200 games str8 1vs 1 against ? marks.

as far as the other conqueror's I took the word farming away after reading poo's comments.

Bruceswar wrote:
Actually rabbit has played almost nothing but team games. Sure he gained points by playing ?'s long ago in 2008 but since the rules have been in place he has followed them. Also he was never conquer back in 2008. He made it in 2009. To say he made conquer by those games is a bit much given he has not played one of those in over a year?

poo-maker wrote:It's a fact that the old conquerors that got to the top playing seq team games have strategies that could now be regarded as "farming" techniques such as having players with low scores but that could follow orders join their teams, joining in second against a team of fremium low-ranks and just waiting days for their team games to get to the front page and to get filled by newbies.

KraphtOne wrote:

Bruceswar wrote:
Actually rabbit has played almost nothing but team games. Sure he gained points by playing ?'s long ago in 2008 but since the rules have been in place he has followed them. Also he was never conquer back in 2008. He made it in 2009. To say he made conquer by those games is a bit much given he has not played one of those in over a year?

He got up to his current score with the extreme farming and then literally sat there until those above him dropped... yes he plays team games now, but very few and very far between...

Bruceswar wrote:

KraphtOne wrote:

Bruceswar wrote:
Actually rabbit has played almost nothing but team games. Sure he gained points by playing ?'s long ago in 2008 but since the rules have been in place he has followed them. Also he was never conquer back in 2008. He made it in 2009. To say he made conquer by those games is a bit much given he has not played one of those in over a year?

He got up to his current score with the extreme farming and then literally sat there until those above him dropped... yes he plays team games now, but very few and very far between...

He has had many games in team 2000+... They are open for all to join... He is currently playing in tournament(s), of which many high ranks joined. Anybody who has played vs rabbit will tell you he is a top player. Until you have played vs him in a team game or any other game then really what can you say?

KraphtOne wrote:

Bruceswar wrote:

KraphtOne wrote:

Bruceswar wrote:
Actually rabbit has played almost nothing but team games. Sure he gained points by playing ?'s long ago in 2008 but since the rules have been in place he has followed them. Also he was never conquer back in 2008. He made it in 2009. To say he made conquer by those games is a bit much given he has not played one of those in over a year?

He got up to his current score with the extreme farming and then literally sat there until those above him dropped... yes he plays team games now, but very few and very far between...

He has had many games in team 2000+... They are open for all to join... He is currently playing in tournament(s), of which many high ranks joined. Anybody who has played vs rabbit will tell you he is a top player. Until you have played vs him in a team game or any other game then really what can you say?

Not saying he's a bad player, just don't try to convince me that he got to conquerer in any way that is more legit than the BS ways others did it... He plays team games? He plays tournaments?
Rabbiton Team Games Map Rank
Totals Sergeant66 +334 91 from 120(76%))
Rabbiton Tournament Map Rank
Totals Private66 -66 64 from 102(63%)
Rabbiton 1vs1 Freestyle Map Rank
Totals Brigadier238 +2262 472 from 484(98%) Relative Rank - N00b Farmer (0.300)

Rabbiton got to 4900 points in may of 2009 and has played less than 100 games since... Like i say, not saying he's a bad player... but he did not earn his spot anymore than some of the others that draw complaints... Took advantage when there was no rule, and has barely played any games since...

Bones2484 wrote:Firth, just make your own thread then.

This one, along with JR's "high scores" thread aren't official and include terrible biases and grudges. You are free to make your own list and mark anyone you want as a farmer/cheat as well.

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:

Bones2484 wrote:Firth, just make your own thread then.

This one, along with JR's "high scores" thread aren't official and include terrible biases and grudges. You are free to make your own list and mark anyone you want as a farmer/cheat as well.

there is nothing bias with my thread. you obtain the score and I document it if it is within the top 100 all time. the only players not listed in the top 100 are players that have been officially busted by the admins for multi accounts, etc and are documented at the bottom of the post as a cheater with the link to their thread on why they were busted. I dont control players to cheat and only document legit scores.

Bones2484 wrote:

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:

Bones2484 wrote:Firth, just make your own thread then.

This one, along with JR's "high scores" thread aren't official and include terrible biases and grudges. You are free to make your own list and mark anyone you want as a farmer/cheat as well.

there is nothing bias with my thread. you obtain the score and I document it if it is within the top 100 all time. the only players not listed in the top 100 are players that have been officially busted by the admins for multi accounts, etc and are documented at the bottom of the post as a cheater with the link to their thread on why they were busted. I dont control players to cheat and only document legit scores.

Wrong, JR. You put players on the wall of shame that you don't like. Remember, a warning is not the same as an "official bust".

Care to show me where the "official busts" are for these two players?

[player]MOBAJOBG[/player]- viewtopic.php?f=239&t=93694&hilit=farm
[player]KraphtOne[/player]- viewtopic.php?f=239&t=100025

I'm actually shocked that you haven't added David Hoekstra to your wall of shame yet.

KraphtOne wrote:

Bruceswar wrote:

KraphtOne wrote:

Bruceswar wrote:
Actually rabbit has played almost nothing but team games. Sure he gained points by playing ?'s long ago in 2008 but since the rules have been in place he has followed them. Also he was never conquer back in 2008. He made it in 2009. To say he made conquer by those games is a bit much given he has not played one of those in over a year?

He got up to his current score with the extreme farming and then literally sat there until those above him dropped... yes he plays team games now, but very few and very far between...

He has had many games in team 2000+... They are open for all to join... He is currently playing in tournament(s), of which many high ranks joined. Anybody who has played vs rabbit will tell you he is a top player. Until you have played vs him in a team game or any other game then really what can you say?

Not saying he's a bad player, just don't try to convince me that he got to conquerer in any way that is more legit than the BS ways others did it... He plays team games? He plays tournaments?
Rabbiton Team Games Map Rank
Totals Sergeant66 +334 91 from 120(76%))
Rabbiton Tournament Map Rank
Totals Private66 -66 64 from 102(63%)
Rabbiton 1vs1 Freestyle Map Rank
Totals Brigadier238 +2262 472 from 484(98%) Relative Rank - N00b Farmer (0.300)

Rabbiton got to 4900 points in may of 2009 and has played less than 100 games since... Like i say, not saying he's a bad player... but he did not earn his spot anymore than some of the others that draw complaints... Took advantage when there was no rule, and has barely played any games since...

KraphtOne wrote:

Bones2484 wrote:

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:

Bones2484 wrote:Firth, just make your own thread then.

This one, along with JR's "high scores" thread aren't official and include terrible biases and grudges. You are free to make your own list and mark anyone you want as a farmer/cheat as well.

there is nothing bias with my thread. you obtain the score and I document it if it is within the top 100 all time. the only players not listed in the top 100 are players that have been officially busted by the admins for multi accounts, etc and are documented at the bottom of the post as a cheater with the link to their thread on why they were busted. I dont control players to cheat and only document legit scores.

Wrong, JR. You put players on the wall of shame that you don't like. Remember, a warning is not the same as an "official bust".

Care to show me where the "official busts" are for these two players?

[player]MOBAJOBG[/player]- viewtopic.php?f=239&t=93694&hilit=farm
[player]KraphtOne[/player]- viewtopic.php?f=239&t=100025

I'm actually shocked that you haven't added David Hoekstra to your wall of shame yet.

exactly, i was told in a PM not to play that setting anymore until they fixed new recruits being able join... which was a something i brought up in the Suggestions Forum (no new recruits in feudal)... yet somehow i'm a cheater to JR ( the second biggest piece of crap noob farmerer behind david hoekstra) because i played a couple hundred games under those settings... we all have map rank, map rank me in feudal and then map rank me with 4 player fuedal freestyle casual... the games where the noobs were joining is a fraction of what i play... Johnny and Rabbit have over 3/4 of their games against people that have zero clue of what they are doing... and that's not to say they are bad players... just that they are chicken shit... keep making your lists boys... you're only fooling the teenagers that you're farming on anyway... makes me laugh anytime i see JR or alster or Blitz passing judgement on others... any intelligent person sees how you guys get your stats... i've played almost 10,000 games and keep my rank well above 2000 at all time... 90% of the players on CC are below major, yet somehow i remain an equalitarian... JR and alster stay major/captain and only play noobs to equal out their tourney losses, and because of this have very low relative ratings... Bltiz has done one better and recruits cooks to partner so that no good players will join and he can be safe from losing 70 points if the game goes wrong... like i say, i'm not implying that i'm better or you guys are better, only that i don't start a list that says "these are the best players at 1vs1 freestyle" and then make asterisks next to those that play different settings than i... unfortunately the way this site is set up, if you make it to conquerer you probably did something shady to get there...