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Re: Unofficial Clan Ladder - Updated Jan 10-2009

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:58 pm
by jackin_u_up
Sky Force was victorious over The Freemium Forces. Final score was 18 - 6.

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=274&t=71695

Re: Unofficial Clan Ladder - Updated Jan 10-2009

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:16 pm
by Scott-Land
jpcloet wrote:Thanks for the info, I'm well aware of the current challenges and generally put place holders in my ladder spreadsheet.

As for posting the scores, I'm still debating on doing that, just need to clear up some issues first around inactive clans (penalty?, what's inactive mean in time), default rules (generally need standard match set, or will need a creative solution), and the possible elimination of non-CLA clans (most are CLA).


Are you any closer to providing a usable system to organize everything? It all seems very vague- you've changed the equation several times now. The current standings on page 1 doesn't seem very accurate outside of you having Thota as #1.

Re: Unofficial Clan Ladder - Updated Jan 10-2009

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:35 pm
by jpcloet
The equation has not changed at all. Same ELO calculation.

There was a suggestion to lower the starting value from 1000 to 100 which would mean THOTA is a larger % better than the lowest clan which makes the gap larger.

I also did get a very useful suggestion around defaulting clans which I need to update the spreadsheet to incorporate that.

I see a few final challenges I need to add to the ladder, and a few that are almost complete. I'll try and update the ladder soon.

Re: Unofficial Clan Ladder - Updated Jan 10-2009

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:42 am
by hiddendragon
Imperial Britain defeats Black Sheep. Score ATM is 20-16 with 2 games left to play.
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=274&t=74161&p=1845743#p1845743

Re: Unofficial Clan Ladder - Updated Jan 10-2009

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:02 pm
by Scott-Land
jpcloet wrote:The equation has not changed at all. Same ELO calculation.

There was a suggestion to lower the starting value from 1000 to 100 which would mean THOTA is a larger % better than the lowest clan which makes the gap larger.

I also did get a very useful suggestion around defaulting clans which I need to update the spreadsheet to incorporate that.

I see a few final challenges I need to add to the ladder, and a few that are almost complete. I'll try and update the ladder soon.


Briefly looking at the standings, it appears 'the ladder' rewards clans for participating in challenges-- not necessarily winning them.

Re: Unofficial Clan Ladder - Updated Jan 10-2009

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:07 pm
by jpcloet
It only rewards you if you do better than expected. Currently the clans have to win due to the relative closeness of the points.

Re: Unofficial Clan Ladder - Updated Jan 10-2009

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:15 am
by Ryall55

Re: Unofficial Clan Ladder - Updated Jan 10-2009

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:05 pm
by reptile
Ok finally our 40 game challenge with G1 has finished

LoW win 28-12

Re: Unofficial Clan Ladder - Updated Jan 10-2009

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:09 pm
by jpcloet
I got some updating to do, looks like the CLA vote is a landslide on all recommendations.

Re: Unofficial Clan Ladder - Updated Jan 10-2009

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:20 pm
by reptile
here is the thread: viewtopic.php?f=274&t=70077

Re: Unofficial Clan Ladder - Updated Jan 10-2009

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:21 pm
by Ryall55

Re: Unofficial Clan Ladder - Updated Jan 10-2009

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:05 am
by owenshooter
jpcloet wrote:I got some updating to do, looks like the CLA vote is a landslide on all recommendations.

sheep do tend to follow...-0

Re: Unofficial Clan Ladder - Updated Jan 10-2009

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:42 pm
by Bruceswar
Final

Immortal Assassins 25 Regulators 15

Re: Unofficial Clan Ladder - Updated Jan 10-2009

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:46 pm
by reptile
does this still get updated? the last update was jan 10th?

Re: Unofficial Clan Ladder - Updated Jan 10-2009

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:54 am
by jpcloet
I'm working on the update, was on vacation last week, plus trying to incorporate the voting changes. Will be updating soon hopefully, although I will have to check in on the league.

Re: Unofficial Clan Ladder - Updated Jan 10-2009

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:23 pm
by reptile
jpcloet wrote:I'm working on the update, was on vacation last week, plus trying to incorporate the voting changes. Will be updating soon hopefully, although I will have to check in on the league.


hooray

Re: Unofficial Clan Ladder - Updated Jan 10-2009

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:26 pm
by andre the giant
I hate to report...

VDLL 26 Warlords of the Wort 14 Final score.

Re: Unofficial Clan Ladder - Updated Mar 13th-2009

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:32 pm
by jpcloet
Updated for a number of challenges, feel free to post comments in this thread. Suggestions to the ladder are appreciated as we would like to improve both the ladder and the challenge system.

Also updated for the voted changes being:

1. Starting points of 100 per clan instead of 1000
2. Penalty for defaulting games, score calculated for defaulting clan to include the default games as losses.
3. Points to be displayed on ladder
4. Clan League 20 sets to be added to ladder (none are complete, most second 10 sets will not occur in the schedule until May 2009 range)

Re: Unofficial Clan Ladder - Updated Mar 13th-2009

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:57 pm
by reptile
jpcloet wrote:Updated for a number of challenges, feel free to post comments in this thread. Suggestions to the ladder are appreciated as we would like to improve both the ladder and the challenge system.

Also updated for the voted changes being:

1. Starting points of 100 per clan instead of 1000
2. Penalty for defaulting games, score calculated for defaulting clan to include the default games as losses.
3. Points to be displayed on ladder
4. Clan League 20 sets to be added to ladder (none are complete, most second 10 sets will not occur in the schedule until May 2009 range)



awesome job jp

Re: Unofficial Clan Ladder - Updated Mar 13th-2009

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:19 am
by ClockworK
Sick

++The Legion++ is moving up!

Re: Unofficial Clan Ladder - Updated Mar 13th-2009

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:46 pm
by Blitzaholic
jpcloet wrote:Updated for a number of challenges, feel free to post comments in this thread. Suggestions to the ladder are appreciated as we would like to improve both the ladder and the challenge system.

Also updated for the voted changes being:

1. Starting points of 100 per clan instead of 1000
2. Penalty for defaulting games, score calculated for defaulting clan to include the default games as losses.
3. Points to be displayed on ladder
4. Clan League 20 sets to be added to ladder (none are complete, most second 10 sets will not occur in the schedule until May 2009 range)



nice job jp =D>

Re: Unofficial Clan Ladder - Updated Mar 13th-2009

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:53 pm
by jpcloet
Thanks, for those not in the CLA, the next consideration is.....

looking into Strength of Schedule calculations.......

Re: Unofficial Clan Ladder - Updated Mar 13th-2009

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:47 am
by e_i_pi
E(A) = 1/(1+10^((1500-750)/400)) = 0.99
E(B) = 1/(1+10^((750-1500)/400)) = 0.01


I think you mean:

E(A) = 1/(1+10^((750-1500)/400)) = 0.99
E(B) = 1/(1+10^((1500-750)/400)) = 0.01

Re: Unofficial Clan Ladder - Updated Mar 13th-2009

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:56 pm
by sailorseal
Not dead last!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Unofficial Clan Ladder - Updated Mar 13th-2009

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:58 pm
by jpcloet
sailorseal wrote:Not dead last!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Not yet anyways.