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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:57 pm
by yeti_c
"All Landing Points" might mean - hold all 4 landing points for +3 bonus
C.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:59 pm
by gimil
yeti_c wrote:"All Landing Points" might mean - hold all 4 landing points for +3 bonus
C.
very true will remove "all"
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:45 pm
by Coleman
Not a huge deal... If we use the symbol to mean landing points, then won't some players think that the Europe Homelands are landing points?
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:04 pm
by lanyards
On the southern part of Florida, there is a little peninsula jutting off to the left on the bottom of the territory that shouldn't be there I don't think.
--lanyards
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:22 pm
by Unit_2
Coleman wrote:Version Whatever This Is (err sorry)
ChangesSmall Wheel images
Equator line
Probably other stuff I didn't notice...
To-DoLarge Map
Make Legend Better If Necessary
Answer Concerns (always)
i like the bigger port.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:03 am
by bryguy
Unit_2 wrote:Coleman wrote:Version Whatever This Is (err sorry)
ChangesSmall Wheel images
Equator line
Probably other stuff I didn't notice...
To-DoLarge Map
Make Legend Better If Necessary
Answer Concerns (always)
i like the bigger port.
i like it how it is
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:31 am
by Skittles!
With the home lands, shouldn't the French port be on the Atlantic Ocean instead of the Mediterranean Sea, and the same with the Spanish?
Just being logical because it would of added days to the journey..
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:53 am
by Ogrecrusher
There's a typo: Britain
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:19 am
by Coleman
lanyards wrote:On the southern part of Florida, there is a little peninsula jutting off to the left on the bottom of the territory that shouldn't be there I don't think.
--lanyards
That's key west, it shouldn't be connected to Florida but I don't want to completely get rid of it.
As for the port size, I assume you are talking about the landing point symbols. I'd actually like somewhere between the size they are now and the old ones.
Anyway...
To-DoLarge Map
Make Legend Better If Necessary
Send the equator line below South America territories
Make the equator line lighter
Separate Key West visibly from Floirda
Make all the European ports be in the ocean. 
Fix Britain Typo
Maybe make the 'ports' somewhere between the size they are now and the old size.
Answer Concerns (always)
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:27 pm
by oaktown
French and Inuit colors are very close to my sad eyes... they'd be fine if they weren't borders.
"For every two territories held with a colony +2" - is that only if you own the homeland of that colony? And how do the tribes ever collect additional bonuses? Because the Inuit start three terits away from the nearest colony territories, and they don't get the landing site bonuses.
Worst start in my opinion: Comanches. Four terits away from any colony teritory, and their homeland is the only one to border a port... just waiting to be taken out.
Can you include your plan for how many armies you want each neutral to start with?
Homeland - you going with one word or two?
The equator - seems like a throw-away graphic element. Make it clear or don't make it at all.
old stuff:
"recieve" - receive
"landing Point" - Landing Point
"territoriy" - territory
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:53 am
by Coleman
In each empire inside the new world every 2 territories is +1. The natives get the most of this bonus, but they don't get a landing point auto-deploy for obvious reasons. If a native owns all their land and a Europe county owns all of its land their number more per turn is the same, although the Natives have more freedom with theirs.
Comanches were the most powerful in my playtests, which concerned me slightly (although it may have just been the way I played everyone). Spain was the least.
We had that plan but haven't been keeping it last page for a while, I'll go find it...
Old Map With Neutrals
Homeland is one word, if you see places where it is two let me know.
Equator and Colours are gimil level concerns so we'll have to wait on those. I don't care if the equator is there or not, and I've wanted French to be green and the one we have Green now to be Blue since the beginning.
Noted the spelling errors.
To-DoLarge Map
Make Legend Better If Necessary (Clarify +1 bonuses)
Send the equator line below South America territories
Make the equator line lighter
Maybe even just remove equator
Maybe switch French and Dutch colors.
Separate Key West visibly from Florida.
Make all the European ports be in the ocean. 
Make sure homeland is one word everywhere.
Fix Britain, receive, territory, and Landing Point typos.
Maybe make the 'ports' somewhere between the size they are now and the old size.
Answer Concerns (always)
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:01 am
by Lone.prophet
in the legend home land is 2 words
and i dont know but the names under the teritories are still hard to read
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:05 am
by Ogrecrusher
Aztec and Comanche --> "Home Lands"
I think the Dutch should be Orange!
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:08 am
by Coleman
Make sure you are looking at the latest, the only places I see Home Land split up are on the map for space reasons, which we can probably correct by redrawing borders if we need to.
... Aztec Homeland has pretty much no reason for being split like that... That's annoying.
If we make the Dutch Orange what do we make the Portuguese?
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:44 am
by Ogrecrusher
I was just thinking if you're swapping colours over, why not make them orange! Though with the pale blue Mapuche, I guess neither the french no Iniut colour would be appropriate for Portugal... Hmm.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:42 pm
by gimil
Not got much time so ill be quick, my major concern is the purple/blue colorblind issues oaktown brought up. I will change the inuit color for you.
As for the equator ill remove it.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:39 pm
by oaktown
Coleman wrote:In each empire inside the new world every 2 territories is +1. The natives get the most of this bonus, but they don't get a landing point auto-deploy for obvious reasons. If a native owns all their land and a Europe county owns all of its land their number more per turn is the same, although the Natives have more freedom with theirs.
A ha, my confusion all along has been the use of the word "colonies." In my mind a colony is a territory under the control of an overseas power... the English colonized the east coast of America, the Spanish colonized central America, the French colonized northern Africa, etc. All of the territory around the Inuit "Homeland" territory is, according to the legend, the Inuit "colony," and thus accrues the same bonus as British colonial territory. Seems a it odd to call the rest of Mexico Aztec colonies - perhaps there's a better word?
Huh, I see that in the old map the legend said "empire" - this may be better.
Do you have to also hold the Homeland to collect that bonus?
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:47 pm
by Coleman
The reason we started using Colony was because the Europe homelands don't count for part of the 2 for +1 and the Native homelands do.
Although I thought that we started having both in the legend, which I didn't like. Honestly I don't know what's going on right now, I'm very tired.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:04 pm
by oaktown
Coleman wrote:The reason we started using Colony was because the Europe homelands don't count for part of the 2 for +1 and the Native homelands do.
yeah, I didn't realize that either. So basically it's +1 for holding two new world territories of a like color. Or +1 for holding two territories in the same new world empire.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:14 pm
by Coleman
oaktown wrote: it's +1 for holding two new world territories of a like color.
Why couldn't we just say that? That's so simple.
+1 For Holding Two New World Territories Of The Same Color.
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:23 am
by Skittles!
You put the landing points on the Med. sea again

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:31 am
by bryguy
Skittles! wrote:You put the landing points on the Med. sea again

i dont get what your talking about
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:37 am
by Coleman
Skittles! wrote:You put the landing points on the Med. sea again

We never updated.

The latest version is still first post and where the title says.
In fact, there won't be an update for at least 6 more days.
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:36 pm
by I GOT SERVED
Does Intuit 8 border Comanche 8? Right now it looks a little unclear.
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:53 pm
by Coleman
I GOT SERVED wrote:Does Intuit 8 border Comanche 8? Right now it looks a little unclear.
If you meant Inuit 8 and Comanche 7 then no, but I agree that could be made clearer.