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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) Day 1 started!

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:27 pm
by rishaed
Ragian wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:vote storr

may as well as he likes to claim day one anyway.
sometimes yes. I do see the advantages in early claiming. And certain roles i will claim very early. (like vig) I would claim that on any day 1 in 99% of games.
I do not recall asking for an explanation to a joke vote.

Defensive much?
You find that defensive? I just found it a regular reply. Even considering your vote was an obvious joke vote. Would you have expected him to ignore? I guess he could have, but the answer doesn't strike me as defensive at all.
Sometimes its small things D1 since there isn't much to go on. However I'm not seeing it too much right now. Basically its looking for any tells that he (and we) can get.

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) Day 1 started!

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:36 pm
by Ragian
Or trying to fabricate tells. That could be viewed as scummy too. (As well as I presume some might see my questioning IB as a defending storr.)

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) Day 1 started!

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:42 pm
by StorrZerg
ill take the free brownie point defense from you rage ;)

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) Day 1 started!

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:48 pm
by StorrZerg
Person below me is hotshot small comment regarding vig claiming, and a joke vote on myself. No thoughts really on this. SO with that i'd like to ask him a question.

@hotshot what do you think about the 2 people i have called scummy? ptlowe, Skoffin .


Skoffin wrote:You're all traitors that can be trusted, so I refuse to read any post that is not my own!

vote pancakemix Because it's obligated
And we might wanna kill the self proclaimed traitor. Seems like a poor attempt at letting mafia know he is a traitor.
Regarding this comment, with a large setup i wouldn't be surprised to have a traitor role in the game.


And regarding ptlowe
So points against you and why i believe you are scum.
2nd person to use the "x person voted for mod! "joke"" Reads to me as someone not trying to figure the game out and skimming. WHy? because they are just looking at minor things.

I follow this up with your blatant omgus. with equally terrible reasons building upon. (I don't understand how you can accuse me of attempting to be joking regarding my vote on you) The bonus however, is that you resort to saying EITHER WAY, as in, it doesn't matter what i said, only that my posts are starting to appear scummy. To which i would love further explanation. How ever i shall assume its mainly based on my idea about vig claim day 1.

To which you make a snarky remark!, yet you provide no input. Seems to me, you skimmed posts, saw several people putting it down, and decided to go along with the rest. Aka bandwagoning.

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) Day 1 started!

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:49 pm
by Iron Butterfly
Ragian wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:vote storr

may as well as he likes to claim day one anyway.
sometimes yes. I do see the advantages in early claiming. And certain roles i will claim very early. (like vig) I would claim that on any day 1 in 99% of games.
I do not recall asking for an explanation to a joke vote.

Defensive much?
You find that defensive? I just found it a regular reply. Even considering your vote was an obvious joke vote. Would you have expected him to ignore? I guess he could have, but the answer doesn't strike me as defensive at all.
Yeh so? I was asking Storr.

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) Day 1 started!

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:51 pm
by Iron Butterfly
Ragian wrote:Or trying to fabricate tells. That could be viewed as scummy too. (As well as I presume some might see my questioning IB as a defending storr.)
So damned if you damned if you don't?

So how do YOU tell which is which?

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) Day 1 started!

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:03 pm
by Ragian
I put them together with all the other stuff that will be out there eventually.

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) Day 1 started!

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:10 pm
by StorrZerg
k you can move along to something else ib

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) Day 1 started!

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:02 pm
by madmitch
Why so hostile Storr ? Is I.B. rattling your cage ? You didn't even capitalize his initials, if you don;t respect the man at least respect the group [-X

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) Day 1 started!

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:52 pm
by AladdinSane
Wing Commander Gingkapo is below me on the signup list and, unnless Ive missed something, he has yet to post in the actual game. Still early days tho, so I wouldn't even start to draw conclusions yet.

WC Gingkapo, if you're reading thru, how about posting something?

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) Day 1 started!

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:02 pm
by madmitch
It seems like a lot of people have not posted much or not at all, :o

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) Day 1 started!

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:03 pm
by StorrZerg
AladdinSane wrote:Wing Commander Gingkapo is below me on the signup list and, unnless Ive missed something, he has yet to post in the actual game. Still early days tho, so I wouldn't even start to draw conclusions yet.

WC Gingkapo, if you're reading thru, how about posting something?
he is on reserve, you need to look at the player list from the main page

thechuck51

is below you.

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) Day 1 started!

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:04 pm
by Marashu
DJPatrick wrote:Marushu wrote : "Storr, are you town this game?

What sort of a question is that? Surely everyone would answer YES to such a Question be they Town/Mafia/first dog on Mars or whatever weird roles have been planned...

What did you hope to find out/advertise by asking this??? :geek:
Storr sometimes claims 3P. This was my invite for him to do so. Now he's either town or mafia, because if he gets found out as not being town, we can hold him to this. That was my reasoning, anyway.

Below me in the list is... madmitch. Well, then.

fp'd by mitch, Storr

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) Day 1 started!

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:10 pm
by madmitch
@ Mars =;

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) Day 1 started!

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:15 pm
by AladdinSane
StorrZerg wrote:
AladdinSane wrote:Wing Commander Gingkapo is below me on the signup list and, unnless Ive missed something, he has yet to post in the actual game. Still early days tho, so I wouldn't even start to draw conclusions yet.

WC Gingkapo, if you're reading thru, how about posting something?
he is on reserve, you need to look at the player list from the main page

thechuck51

is below you.
Ah, yes, you are right. All this mispeling is kiling my brain cels by the milion. Well, thechuck hasn't posted either, I think, so my comment from above applies to him now. How about posting, thechuck?

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) Day 1 started!

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:21 pm
by Metsfanmax
Marashu wrote:
DJPatrick wrote:Marushu wrote : "Storr, are you town this game?

What sort of a question is that? Surely everyone would answer YES to such a Question be they Town/Mafia/first dog on Mars or whatever weird roles have been planned...

What did you hope to find out/advertise by asking this??? :geek:
Storr sometimes claims 3P. This was my invite for him to do so. Now he's either town or mafia, because if he gets found out as not being town, we can hold him to this. That was my reasoning, anyway.

Below me in the list is... madmitch. Well, then.

fp'd by mitch, Storr
This is nonsense. First, Storr doesn't need anybody to ask him to claim; he'll claim if he feels like it. Second, of course if he's 3P and doesn't want to claim that yet, he's going to lie and say he's town. If he later claims 3P, we wouldn't lynch him just because he said now that he's town.

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) SIGN UPS OPEN

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:26 pm
by pancakemix
Obligatory Vote Skoffin for old time's sake
StorrZerg wrote:
Whatsausage wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:I strongly suggest vig / day vig to claim day 1
Are there any other tips you have to help town lose as fast as possible?
Vote metsfanmax for making a serious comment in the first 24 hours, for shame
Sorry, joke phase is over. Serious business plz.
God, you're boring :P

Seriously though, to what end would the vig claim? I read your explanation, but are you not concerned about scum influence on their action?
Skoffin wrote:You're all traitors that can be trusted, so I refuse to read any post that is not my own!

vote pancakemix Because it's obligated
I'm glad I put mine in before I got to this :P

Both IB and Storr are overreacting. Stahp it.

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) Day 1 started!

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:31 pm
by WingCmdr Ginkapo
Rest assured I am watching.

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) SIGN UPS OPEN

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:53 pm
by StorrZerg
pancakemix wrote:
Seriously though, to what end would the vig claim? I read your explanation, but are you not concerned about scum influence on their action?
not really. any action used on the vig means an open playing field for what ever else town has. Vig at best can kill an anti town. Vig at worse can kill a town. Vig could also be lynched, because we wouldn't believe the claim latter in the game.

pcm what do you think of the idea that skoffin is trying to let mafia know he is the traitor?

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) SIGN UPS OPEN

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:02 pm
by Metsfanmax
StorrZerg wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
Seriously though, to what end would the vig claim? I read your explanation, but are you not concerned about scum influence on their action?
not really. any action used on the vig means an open playing field for what ever else town has.
I would argue that a vig is in the top half of the roles the town wants to support. Therefore the expected outcome of mafia shooting someone randomly other than a vig is worse than shooting at the vig. So it is in their interest to shoot the vig. Yes, they'd love to get a cop or doc if they can, but on N1 they don't have that information yet, so the vig is a pretty reasonable choice.

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) Day 1 started!

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:10 pm
by Iron Butterfly
Ragian wrote:I put them together with all the other stuff that will be out there eventually.
But of course....Duh.

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) Day 1 started!

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:18 pm
by Iron Butterfly
madmitch wrote:It seems like a lot of people have not posted much or not at all, :o
I guarantee there will be several who are in this game by name alone.

A game this size needs to be managed to insure people are accounted for.

Hah and who should be below me but VIRUS.

How long should I wait to accuse him of hiding??

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) SIGN UPS OPEN

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:29 pm
by StorrZerg
Metsfanmax wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
Seriously though, to what end would the vig claim? I read your explanation, but are you not concerned about scum influence on their action?
not really. any action used on the vig means an open playing field for what ever else town has.
I would argue that a vig is in the top half of the roles the town wants to support. Therefore the expected outcome of mafia shooting someone randomly other than a vig is worse than shooting at the vig. So it is in their interest to shoot the vig. Yes, they'd love to get a cop or doc if they can, but on N1 they don't have that information yet, so the vig is a pretty reasonable choice.
to which town has more roles than mafia, and more night actions, to which they wouldn't be risking a kill shot to be found out. I'd love to trade a vig for a mafia. wouldn't you? lol?

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) SIGN UPS OPEN

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:46 pm
by Metsfanmax
StorrZerg wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
Seriously though, to what end would the vig claim? I read your explanation, but are you not concerned about scum influence on their action?
not really. any action used on the vig means an open playing field for what ever else town has.
I would argue that a vig is in the top half of the roles the town wants to support. Therefore the expected outcome of mafia shooting someone randomly other than a vig is worse than shooting at the vig. So it is in their interest to shoot the vig. Yes, they'd love to get a cop or doc if they can, but on N1 they don't have that information yet, so the vig is a pretty reasonable choice.
to which town has more roles than mafia, and more night actions, to which they wouldn't be risking a kill shot to be found out. I'd love to trade a vig for a mafia. wouldn't you? lol?
Well if the reasoning is that they're not going to shoot at the vig, then you've just helped narrow down the scope for who they need to look at, without clearly benefiting town.

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) SIGN UPS OPEN

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:51 pm
by rishaed
StorrZerg wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
Seriously though, to what end would the vig claim? I read your explanation, but are you not concerned about scum influence on their action?
not really. any action used on the vig means an open playing field for what ever else town has.
I would argue that a vig is in the top half of the roles the town wants to support. Therefore the expected outcome of mafia shooting someone randomly other than a vig is worse than shooting at the vig. So it is in their interest to shoot the vig. Yes, they'd love to get a cop or doc if they can, but on N1 they don't have that information yet, so the vig is a pretty reasonable choice.
to which town has more roles than mafia, and more night actions, to which they wouldn't be risking a kill shot to be found out. I'd love to trade a vig for a mafia. wouldn't you? lol?
Explain on how it would be a trade? I mean unless the Vig has reallly accurate reads or gets lucky, it is most likely that the mafia will leave him alone N1 b/c of probabilities. More likely you would be trading a vig and a few town, without the guarantee of even getting one scum out of it.