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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:05 pm
by Incandenza
pancakemix wrote:Since you can't decipher the hieroglyphics, I'll give you the Rosetta Stone.

DN (and myself) are Peasants. We are townies. We farm land and all that junk. However, each night we are give the option to rebel against the crown and become Rebellious Peasants. We learn nothing of scum, and essentially we become Death Millers, but we get scum win conditions.

Hope that clears things up.


Obliged. The problem I have with mafia games is that I either read way too much into things or not enough....

And it seems like there's little point to peasants joining up, as they get no night kills, can't communicate with the mafia, and would get busted if investigated.

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:06 pm
by red bull
would it help if i role claim ? i can tell you think i am either a pesant or a noble

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:06 pm
by spiesr
I still say dominationnation needs to br lynched...His rollclaim does not alter my thinking...

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:07 pm
by Incandenza
red bull wrote:would it help if i role claim ? i can tell you think i am either a pesant or a nobal


Please don't (unless you're scum, of course).

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:07 pm
by red bull
gahh sorry about the edit !!!! :oops: wrong thread wrong tab :oops:

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:08 pm
by pancakemix
Last edited by red bull on May 16 2007 21:06; edited 1 time in total

Be consumed by the fires of Hell, heathen!

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:08 pm
by Aegnor
Pancake, did you just claim peasant for the first time in this game? I haven't seen any other claims made by you so far.

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:09 pm
by pancakemix
Aegnor wrote:Pancake, did you just claim peasant for the first time in this game? I haven't seen any other claims made by you so far.


Yes. It's true, though. You can follow me tonight, if you want.

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:09 pm
by spiesr
pancakemix wrote:Last edited by red bull on May 16 2007 21:06; edited 1 time in total

Be consumed by the fires of Hell, heathen!
DIE!!!

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:10 pm
by Aegnor
pancakemix wrote:
Aegnor wrote:Pancake, did you just claim peasant for the first time in this game? I haven't seen any other claims made by you so far.


Yes. It's true, though. You can follow me tonight, if you want.


I was planning to, to be honest. Hmmmm. I will have to think about that now.

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:12 pm
by dominationnation
Incandenza wrote:
dominationnation wrote:people have misunderstood what I have said. I could have rebelled against the crown last night if I wanted to-Its not that I stay pesant untill the archary contest.


Would you clarify, please? It sounds like you have a role that might give us a glimpse at the game mechanics... obviously don't quote your PM, but a succinct summary would do a treat. Besides, if you're a peasant, you're not a likely night target, and a full accounting won't hurt you.

And Aim, thanks for replacing dwight.

Red Bull, I was in your spot 20-some pages ago, so I don't envy you the reading. Suffice it to say, tho, that the player you're replacing said basically nothing of note, so you've got a blank slate to incriminate yourself. :wink: :D

I we are given a chance every night to choce weather or not we want to switch to the crown or not. All the pesants vote and the decision is what we become. If we do rebel then we dont learn anything about them, dont influence thier decisions and dont count in count of # of mafia As far as I know it has nothing to do with the archary contest.

At the moment, I personally believe that there are 3 groups:
Scum (Merry men), Peasants, Nobles.

I haven't figured out the relations between the groups yet. We can assume that the Nobles need to have the peasants on their side in order to beat the mafia. We could also assume that the Merry men want to do the same. Too many assumptions going on at the moment to be honest.


merry men=scum. As far as I have figured out this is the simpilest group. It is just a normal mafia maby with a godfather(robin hood) a spy or other mafia roles

Nobles=powerful townies. They are any townies that have a certain power or another. They are loyal to the cronw and will stay loyal to the crown

Townies=swing group. We start out loyal to the crown but every night we vote on weather to stay loyal or to rebel. If we rebel we become a rebel pesant. we do not learn anything about the mafia, infullence thier decision of who to kill, or count in them outnumbering the nobels. The only thing that changes is our win condition. It changes to wanting the mafia to win.

I hope this clears everything up. I might be wrong about somethings and am not sure how events such as the archary contest fit into this but this is what I have gathered so far

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:14 pm
by red bull
dominationnation wrote:
Incandenza wrote:
dominationnation wrote:people have misunderstood what I have said. I could have rebelled against the crown last night if I wanted to-Its not that I stay pesant untill the archary contest.


Would you clarify, please? It sounds like you have a role that might give us a glimpse at the game mechanics... obviously don't quote your PM, but a succinct summary would do a treat. Besides, if you're a peasant, you're not a likely night target, and a full accounting won't hurt you.

And Aim, thanks for replacing dwight.

Red Bull, I was in your spot 20-some pages ago, so I don't envy you the reading. Suffice it to say, tho, that the player you're replacing said basically nothing of note, so you've got a blank slate to incriminate yourself. :wink: :D

I we are given a chance every night to choce weather or not we want to switch to the crown or not. All the pesants vote and the decision is what we become. If we do rebel then we dont learn anything about them, dont influence thier decisions and dont count in count of # of mafia As far as I know it has nothing to do with the archary contest.

At the moment, I personally believe that there are 3 groups:
Scum (Merry men), Peasants, Nobles.

I haven't figured out the relations between the groups yet. We can assume that the Nobles need to have the peasants on their side in order to beat the mafia. We could also assume that the Merry men want to do the same. Too many assumptions going on at the moment to be honest.


merry men=scum. As far as I have figured out this is the simpilest group. It is just a normal mafia maby with a godfather(robin hood) a spy or other mafia roles

Nobles=powerful townies. They are any townies that have a certain power or another. They are loyal to the cronw and will stay loyal to the crown

Townies=swing group. We start out loyal to the crown but every night we vote on weather to stay loyal or to rebel. If we rebel we become a rebel pesant. we do not learn anything about the mafia, infullence thier decision of who to kill, or count in them outnumbering the nobels. The only thing that changes is our win condition. It changes to wanting the mafia to win.

I hope this clears everything up. I might be wrong about somethings and am not sure how events such as the archary contest fit into this but this is what I have gathered so far
ok thanks i am going to reread my pm then beacuse it does not agree with what you just said ... brb :P

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:15 pm
by Aegnor
Ok, this information seems solid enough, unless domination and pancake are masons and some devised a brilliant scheme (Could be fun but not so likely to happne). In that case, should we worry about the peasants then?

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:16 pm
by spiesr
We need them on our side or we are screwed!

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:16 pm
by red bull
Aegnor wrote:Ok, this information seems solid enough, unless domination and pancake are masons and some devised a brilliant scheme (Could be fun but not so likely to happne). In that case, should we worry about the peasants then?
how all has claimed loyal to the crown again ?

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:17 pm
by dominationnation
Aegnor wrote:Ok, this information seems solid enough, unless domination and pancake are masons and some devised a brilliant scheme (Could be fun but not so likely to happne). In that case, should we worry about the peasants then?

no Im a townie like I said.

I am curently suspecious of pancakemix though. I just made it really easy for him to role claim townie, without being townie, and he did. He gave us no new information. It was a pointless role claim.

FOS PANCAKEMIX

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:19 pm
by pancakemix
dominationnation wrote:
Aegnor wrote:Ok, this information seems solid enough, unless domination and pancake are masons and some devised a brilliant scheme (Could be fun but not so likely to happne). In that case, should we worry about the peasants then?

no Im a townie like I said.

I am curently suspecious of pancakemix though. I just made it really easy for him to role claim townie, without being townie, and he did. He gave us no new information. It was a pointless role claim.

FOS PANCAKEMIX


I was clarifying for you. They didn't quite get what you were saying, so I helped.

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:19 pm
by Aegnor
Pancake I can't help but agree with domination on this one. Was your role claim really necessary at this point?

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:22 pm
by pancakemix
Well, no. But I'm just trying to help him. I knew he was right and I didn't want the town to lynch an innocent. Lynching me would defeat the purpose of that.

I've made you an offer, Aegnor. Do you accept? Or will you just kill me today?

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:24 pm
by got tonkaed
if you know hes an innocent, do you have any other suggestions for who we should lynch?

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:25 pm
by Aegnor
pancakemix wrote:Well, no. But I'm just trying to help him. I knew he was right and I didn't want the town to lynch an innocent. Lynching me would defeat the purpose of that.

I've made you an offer, Aegnor. Do you accept? Or will you just kill me today?


I will have to think about it. Of course if you know I'm going to follow you, you will probably not use your night action. So it's kind of a tricky situation here.

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:42 pm
by Anarkistsdream
You guys... You know just by the answers that some of these people gave to DNs role claim that they are either 1) Noble or 2) Scum....

I had the same thing as DN, so it does not surprise me...

But you guys... :roll:

Start checking on all of them...

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:45 pm
by dominationnation
Anarkistsdream wrote:You guys... You know just by the answers that some of these people gave to DNs role claim that they are either 1) Noble or 2) Scum....

I had the same thing as DN, so it does not surprise me...

But you guys... :roll:

Start checking on all of them...

you have a point there but any mafia would just pretend like they knew all this and therefore say they were pesant. Unfortunatly my roleclaim had a result I didnt expect. It gave the mafia an easy way to look innocent

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:46 pm
by Anarkistsdream
No way, man... We just pin-pointed several suspected people this way. I guarantee at least one to two mafia in those that just posted.

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:47 pm
by got tonkaed
well aside from the fact that your a dummy for not realizing that....

ill go with anarks logic cause clearly i have none of my own...and the winner of that contest for me at least is....unvote, vote Spiser not that there arent perhaps others, but i suppose this is the new place to start?