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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:13 pm
by wicked
The reason I asked if you could prove it is that might make you more believable. The fact is the reason I semi-trust trestain is that he provided clues from the WC. Yeah, might not prove anything, but I've seen nothing from trestain that makes me think he's scum. He's attacking Xenhu b/c Xenhu didn't seem to know stuff about the WC and attacked Tres even after Tres posted those clues. So yeah, Xenhu does appear more scummy than Tres does right now.
I have *never* claimed my hiatus is reason not to vote me, or used that as an excuse. I went through personal hell for a week and could've cared less about this stupid game at the time. There's no reason to bring that into this.
Ank wrote:two or three examples that I vaguely remember...
If you can't even remember why enough to tell us, then I don't believe your reason at all. I'm not asking you to find direct quotes (although that would help), just summarize where you think tres acted like scum.
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:59 pm
by Anarkistsdream
Trestain did not even make his first post until Page 21... That to me starts off being scummy...
On page 21 alone
4
And they were ALL between the two of you... And it looked like it was pretty... Uhmmm... Staged.
Page 33
Posted about how he will read and comment...
Pg 34 he decides that, "i am not sure where to place my vote but it will for sure be on one of the people who voted spin in that bandwagon
"
Pg 36, all he posts is "for dummies also dropped the hammer on spin did he not"
He was just pushing people even harder to kill someone that he knew was not mafia...
Pg 37, actually drops a vote... But took his time with it... Like he was waiting around for the bandwagon to be close to over so he didn't garner any suspicion.
Everybody unvotes, yadda yadda... His vote didn't hold, and he again went into Trestain hibernation.
Pg 40, Wicked starts up with the Win COndition bullshit... Something I still say is pure scum.
Pg 53... MB makes an EXCELLENT case against Wicked... At least, it was excellent at the time. She drops a word into Font 0, thinking no one can see it... Of course, I only use IE, so I DO see it... Makes me wonder if she DID know everyone could see it or not...
pg 59, Trestain decides to grace us with his presence again, dropping 3 names and saying choose one of the mto vote for... He also says he hopes any suspicions of him are now gone because he is voting the way Wicked suggests... With a wink at the end of the comment...
Starting on Page 63, Trestain only wants to vote Xenhu... And keeps it like that until the present...
And, as for you Wicked, you being alive is surprising enough in itself for me to not wonder what you are. You should be dead, right next to Moz, just due to your experience in this game. So, you will now claim that the mafia is obviously keeping you alive to redirect blame for people like me...
That could entirely be true... But... *shrug* Still sounds suspicious for a reason.
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:00 pm
by Anarkistsdream
That should say, on page 21 alone he had 4 posts...
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:26 pm
by wicked
I meant to say earlier, trestain rarely posts that much in mafia games, no matter what side he's on. That's just an FYI based on my game experience with him, not me backing him up. I don't wish to tie myself to anyone in this game, since I'm clueless here about who's who.
Right now Exile and Xenhu are at the top of my possible scum list, as is Mink for not chatting with his mason partner on the weekends. I don't want to vote for Mink until after we see what the prod produces.
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:29 pm
by Anarkistsdream
wicked wrote:I meant to say earlier, trestain rarely posts that much in mafia games, no matter what side he's on. That's just an FYI based on my game experience with him, not me backing him up. I don't wish to tie myself to anyone in this game, since I'm clueless here about who's who.
Right now Exile and Xenhu are at the top of my possible scum list, as is Mink for not chatting with his mason partner on the weekends. I don't want to vote for Mink until after we see what the prod produces.
I agree that those 3 are highly likely candidates...
I ALSO realized I forgot to unvote Minkish before I voted Trestain...
SO!
Unvote
FOS: Trestain
Minkish
For Dummies
the1exile
Wicked
I am curious why you didn't even bother to comment on all the points I made, Wicked... You just posted some off topic ost and went on your merry way... You still seem scummy.
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:32 pm
by wicked
I thought I had explained why I thought tres didn't seem as scummy as some of the others? Did I miss your other points?
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:34 pm
by Anarkistsdream
wicked wrote:I thought I had explained why I thought tres didn't seem as scummy as some of the others? Did I miss your other points?
Apparently... His lack of posting is just part of it...
His actions in the things he DOES say- when he chooses to speak- are never very concise, and just point a general accusing finger...
It is obvious to me, however, that either he or Xen is mafia...
So, why don't we hang one of them?
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:35 pm
by wicked
I think you missed an entire post of mine.
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:15 pm
by Anarkistsdream
wicked wrote:I think you missed an entire post of mine.
Which one?
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:58 pm
by The1exile
Ok folks, I'm holiday right now so apologies in advance and retrospect for bad spelling and lack of posting
Vote incandenza
He's a scumbag. Trust me on this one, please, cuz I might not get back on to explain why I know 100%.
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:58 pm
by trestain
Anarkistsdream wrote:wicked wrote:I thought I had explained why I thought tres didn't seem as scummy as some of the others? Did I miss your other points?
Apparently... His lack of posting is just part of it...
His actions in the things he DOES say- when he chooses to speak- are never very concise, and just point a general accusing finger...It is obvious to me, however, that either he or Xen is mafia...
So, why don't we hang one of them?
ANARCHISTSDREAM
Your right i do not post much in these games AD i never do, but I think I have been pretty clear and concise on why xen is mafia.
Also if you have been through my posts so dilligently you would have noticed one of the reasons i suspect xen(the one reguarding the win condition) and also noticed that i revealed a key word from my role pm BEFORE anyone else had used it
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:32 pm
by Incandenza
trestain wrote:Also if you have been through my posts so dilligently you would have noticed one of the reasons i suspect xen(the one reguarding the win condition) and also noticed that i revealed a key word from my role pm BEFORE anyone else had used it
One of the other things you didn't mention, tres, was xenhu's peculiar response to the 'numbers of words in the WC test' on day 2 (somewhere in the high 70's, low 80's as far as page #, iirc). Worth mentioning.
I'm of the position at the moment that tres is one of the few semi-trustworthy ones, given the information he provided way back when. However, semi-trustworthy doesn't mean he's right, so I'm kinda waffling on the xenhu thing.
I have semi-trust in wicked for the same reason, and I admire the fact that she's essentially recusing herself...
as for Ank, I don't see how those posts back on page 21 (I looked) really link tres and wicked, nor do they come off as 'staged'... I understand why you think wicked pressing people to answer questions about their WC is scummy, but when said people (including wicked herself) provide correct answers, you gotta chill out a bit. Plus you FOSed like half the remaining players, which does you precious little good in the credibility department.
We still haven't heard from mink, which means we may never. The question becomes, do we conceptually lynch him, or just leave him for auto to modkill?
Finally, there's exile... um, yeah...
The1exile wrote:Ok folks, I'm holiday right now so apologies in advance and retrospect for bad spelling and lack of posting
Vote incandenza
He's a scumbag. Trust me on this one, please, cuz I might not get back on to explain why I know 100%.
"Hey, guys, I don't really want to talk about how half of you felt I was scummy enough to vote for me on day 3, and I'm not going to be around very much (even though that's why people think I'm scummy), but you really have to trust me as I foist suspicion off on someone else. No, go ahead, vote him on my say-so. What, you don't trust me? I said I know 100%!"
In the words of the immortal Wayne, "Un sphincter dit quoi?"
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:43 am
by The1exile
Incandenza wrote:Finally, there's exile... um, yeah...
The1exile wrote:Ok folks, I'm holiday right now so apologies in advance and retrospect for bad spelling and lack of posting
Vote incandenza
He's a scumbag. Trust me on this one, please, cuz I might not get back on to explain why I know 100%.
"Hey, guys, I don't really want to talk about how half of you felt I was scummy enough to vote for me on day 3, and I'm not going to be around very much (even though that's why people think I'm scummy), but you really have to trust me as I foist suspicion off on someone else. No, go ahead, vote him on my say-so. What, you don't trust me? I said I know 100%!"
In the words of the immortal Wayne, "Un sphincter dit quoi?"
Mhm. But if they lynch me, it will become apparent that not only was I right, but that you are indeed scum. Oh, and I expect that if you have a partner he'll nightkill me (wicked: hence post about backup doc). It would be better ofr the townif they didn't lynch me to prove my innocence and your guilt, but meh, human nature and sods law being what it is they will anyway.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:20 am
by wicked
I'm inclined to believe Exile.
Vote Incans
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:26 am
by dcowboys055
Agreed, if you're telling the truth exile.
Vote Inc
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:16 pm
by The1exile
dcowboys055 wrote:Agreed, if you're telling the truth exile.
Vote Inc
I am. I promise.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:13 pm
by Anarkistsdream
I won't be online tomorrow before the deadline, so, I better just go with the flow and trust Exile... It's easy enough to lynch him next if need be...
Vote: Incans
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:31 pm
by Incandenza
wicked wrote:I'm inclined to believe Exile.
Vote Incans
Really? Just like that? "Trust me, guys" is enough to actually garner trust, after all the wrong turns we've made? No consideration to the fact that exile's presumed investigation might not be trustworthy given the vagaries of investigatory sanity? (sorry for that last bit, I'm at work and feel the need for the occasional rhetorical flourish)
'Cause here's the thing. Since I'm already at lynch -1, and since there's certainly a mafia out there that could jump on the ole' bandwagon, there's no point in continuing to keep a lowish profile. I've been doing my own investigating, in a sense. I'm the
Stowaway. It's one of those 'every night I pick someone to bunk with and if they're mafia I die' situations. Granted, I haven't been going after people I super-suspect are mafia because A) I hadn't quite figured out how to communicate my role (and thus have my death point directly at the mafia) without putting myself out there for a nightkill and B) well, shit, I wanted to make it to the colony and see how the merging of the threads was going to go. But I do have a nice list of three confirmed townies. Not much, sure, but it's a nice place to hang one's hat in terms of actual trust.
Given that I'm gathering information that theoretically is just as useful as a cop's, and given our relatively small starting group size, is it really that extraordinary that auto might have throw us for a loop and saddled us with an insane/paranoid cop?
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:33 pm
by wicked
unvote tell us who you've slept with.

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:36 pm
by Anarkistsdream
wicked wrote:unvote tell us who you've slept with.

HAHAHAHA
Unvote
Vote: Exile
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:36 pm
by Anarkistsdream
Ah... Scrrew it...
Unvote...
I won't be around tomorrow, folks... So you're on your own for this one.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:55 pm
by autoload
wicked wrote:unvote tell us who you've slept with.

heh heh!
Vote Count coming shortly...
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:57 pm
by autoload
Vote Count
2 Incandenza (The1exile, dcowboys055)
1 The1exile (XenHu)
1 XenHu (trestain)
5 Not Voting (Minkish, Incandenza, for dummies, wicked, Anarkistsdream)
With 9 alive it takes 5 to Lynch!
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:42 pm
by Incandenza
wicked wrote:unvote tell us who you've slept with.

It's been a bit of a rough couple of months for the ole' Incster... I haven't been able to pick up a nubile female in...
Oh wait, you mean in the game.
Night 1: MB
Night 2: wicked (and what a night it was... at least the parts I remember through the haze of Jager shots and whippets)
Night 3: for dummies
All of which seemed reasonably safe at the time. I'm undecided as to who I'll be shacking up with tonight.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:59 pm
by wicked
sigh... who to believe..... options are:
1.) both telling truth
2.) one lying
I need to go back and look at voting records for you both....