solace19k wrote:Baaaaad Snorri, Baaaaaaaaaad Snorri. Last time I checked, in any of my posts I haven't had to resort in name calling or using opinions to argue with facts.
I was just calling the government (at least the ones who started the war i.e. Bush and co) dickwads. That's not opinion or name calling, that's just fact.
Honestly man, what in the hell do you really know about US policy in Iraq, why we are actually here, and what the Soldiers are doing here? With posts like that, all you did was reinforce what you quoted by me. Where does your information come from? Media? Internet forums?
The left-wing communist media ofcourse!
So why are you (you as in your country) actually there then?
It sounds to me that if you had a solid grasp on true world politics then you wouldn't say something like that without presenting the facts about why you say that. I suppose you are referring to the lame ass WMD excuse Bush used based off information given.
Yup. And the frequent claims about Saddam and Bin Laden working together and all the other lies Bush and his friends said.
Why is it in the Governments best interest to divulge everything they have on our motives for capturing Saddam?
It is not in any way.
However, it is in the
country's best interest to divulge all the info and motives about this. I don't trust my government as far as I can throw them, and they're a big buch of people so it isn't far. Why would blindly trust your government?
Were there tactical and logistical mistakes made in predicting the outcome and the aftermath of invading Iraq? YES! OF COURSE! That's pretty easy to see. Did we have "ill" intentions of going in there? That is really just an opinion in the first place. I have yet to have been handed the "Standard for Ill Intent".
I am sure that the soldiers and most lowerranking people in the government or military had good intentions. But the intentions of Bush and his friends? I don't know for sure, as I don't know them, but I think they might have very well qualified as "ill". (And not the good kind of street-slang "ill" either.)
Something does strike me strange about violating the very basic law of humanity though.
You know, for example, flying a civilian flight into an international business place.
Yup, sounds like a pretty horrible thing. I suppose that does give you a good reason to invade a country and hunt down a man who had nothing to do with it at all. I was once beaten up in the city for no reason, so I went back to my house and beat up my neighbor. Perfectly logical.
I have spent 32 months fighting this "war" you guys are so quick to judge. I have spoke to the Iraqi people, I have seen firsthand the actions of the United States, Its allies here, the Iraqi people, and the criminal thugs that still fight for no reason. Do you not think that European forces have killed an innocent civilian on accident? Are they on trial for it?
Actually, there was this one marine from my country who shot an unarmed civilian and was sent to trial for it. It was an accident and the judge ruled it to be an accident, but he did stand trial for it.
Of course not, because that is what happens during a war when innocent civilians are used by the enemy as pawns. To me NOTHING justifies the actions of the very people we are standing up against.
I don't think anything justifies their actions either. However, what they are doing doesn't justify the torture by American troops either. Justifying horrible acts by saying the other did even more horrible acts doesn't work. The terrorists are using that same reasoning to recruit. The actions of the American government have led to boosts in recruits and more support for the terrorists.
Don't tell me why you think America is here, and what you think we are doing here.
Why not?
When this is all said and done. Iran is exposed, their proxy war with the world ends in failure, the little coward thugs that claim they are "terrorists" are defeated.
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Well you're certainly optimistic.
not very realistic, but you gotta start somewhere.
