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Re: It's just you
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:32 pm
by Guiscard
luns101 wrote:Balsiefen wrote:is it me or is luns' argument shrinking, it seems to have changed from Muslims will take over britain to muslim culture might take over britain to there might be an increace in radical mulims to a airport worker wasn't allowed to wair a necklace.
It's just you. If you've followed the progression of the argument you'd see that I was asked certain questions which changed the nature of the debate.
Going back to aggressive secularism thing, here's a little present for you Luns
I read this in the paper this afternoon and immediately thought of you
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... 76,00.html
Re: It's just you
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:42 pm
by luns101
Ahh, thanks. It's a good article. After reading that, it reminded me of what Russell Kirk said,
"All great systems, ethical or political, attain their ascendancy over the minds of men by virtue of their appeal to the imagination; and when they cease to touch the chords of wonder and mystery and hope, their power is lost, and men look elsewhere for some set of principles by which they may be guided."
Re: It's just you
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:53 pm
by Guiscard
luns101 wrote:Ahh, thanks. It's a good article. After reading that, it reminded me of what Russell Kirk said,
"All great systems, ethical or political, attain their ascendancy over the minds of men by virtue of their appeal to the imagination; and when they cease to touch the chords of wonder and mystery and hope, their power is lost, and men look elsewhere for some set of principles by which they may be guided."
I do agree with her in that the current 'popular' brand of Atheism touted by Dawkins et al does seem to be far to sensationalist and relies more on grabbing headlines than proper philosophical or scientific argument...
Don't agree that secularism is a bad thing, though, so I'm afraid the general thrust of the article is what I disagree with.