Conquer Club

Knight of Orient wrote:

DIRESTRAITS wrote:Heres whatll happen
Phase 1: US drawn into Middle East confilict (oops)
Phase 2: Chinese puppet North Korea wont back down, so America and China get pissy about it
Phase 3: Growing Islamic demographic in Europe leads to Pro-islamic revolutions /takeovers
Phase 4: India, threatened by China, declares War
Phase 5: America, England, and Israel fight all out war with Islamic controlled Europe and Arabia
Phase 6: America gets pissed off that China isnt doing anything in N.K., joins India, effectively joining both Wars

Side 1: America, England, Israel, India, American/British small country allies (South America, Japan, Canada, Austrailia, etc)
Side 2: Arabic Empire (Iran, Arabia, Europe), China, Random Asian Countries (N.K., Vietnam, etc.)
Influential Nuetral: Russia. Once agaim they will be the country that comes in and tips the scales

If thats the case, we would be ineffective, china is our lifestring, if they decided to cut all ties with us, America would experience a depression like none other

Not really. We would suffer a mild economic setback, but India and Latin America would pick up the slack. Chinas economy would be in a worse situation, because without America where do they sell their crap?

I think China and America could both move on without each other.

Sure there is big trade there and things would slow for a period but China could start consuming it's own product and in theory America could produce things for it's self again.

2dimes wrote:I don't think I'm on the same page Jay.

When you talk "rapture" are you reffering to the left behind book concept.

"Mom? Huh wonder where she is? Here's her dress in the chair she was sitting in and it's still warm, here's her beer and tomatoe juice and it's still cold. Golly that's odd."

I might just be reading it this way but it seems you're refering to Jesus telling people he'd come back and everyone would see him.

Completely different, no?

At the end of the tribulation Christ will come back and every eye will see Him. This, however, is not the rapture but the Second Coming. Pre-Trib, Post Trib, all thoughout Trib. Who knows. But the rapture will take place. (Might be cold OJ over beer though )

No my mom likes tomatoe juice with beer not Orange.

So World War Three is, by default, the Rapture?

Isn't it possible that maybe, just maybe, WWIII may occur and no deity will get involved?

I mean, I'm sure there are factions that thought WWII was going to be the end of it all.

The russelites taught world war I as armagedon right up until the second one.

well im in NZ so im going to hide in a corner...no ones going to bomb us..unless they dislike sheep

fortunately for you, most people are ok with them, so, i guess you are safe

thelewis wrote:well im in NZ so im going to hide in a corner...no ones going to bomb us..unless they dislike sheep

Actually it's the "sheep" who are willing this "war" in the first place...

not really

ive been thinking...wolrld war three wont be oranised into sides as much as 1 and 2 were...it will be made up of loads of differnt major conflicts arond the globe

china trying to prove there military strength in north korea will be the bigest one.

Irael vs the middle east another one

England v Scotland

Mexico will advance south

Some sort of seperate conflict in south america... which will result in the splitting of Brazil

Some terriotry wars in Africa will break out


Eventually they might all merge into one but thats how it will start. The Invasion of China will be the official start of it though


Think thhrough somemore about china, it think japan will see it as an oppurtunity to regain territory they 'lost' in ww2 such as Korea and the phillipeans resulting in an japnese v chinese war...America will get involved on the japanese side because chinas communist and so on and so forth

The usa is obliged to, since we disabled their military in WW2, we fight their wars now

edmundomcpot wrote:England v Scotland

How would that ever happen? There may at some point in the future be a peaceful dissolution of the Union but it would never descend into all-out war.

Guiscard wrote:

edmundomcpot wrote:England v Scotland

How would that ever happen? There may at some point in the future be a peaceful dissolution of the Union but it would never descend into all-out war.

..... nothings impossible..... but i do agree with you, no war just a bit of mistrust

jay_a2j wrote:

heavycola wrote:IT'S ALL BOLLOCKS. Jay you are talking nonsense.

The generation that saw 1948... so the youngest of them must be almost 60. I give you 30 years. Then i am going to come back to this forum and laugh.

30 years eh? Sounds good. Too bad you won't be back in 30 years.


You have to take all of scripture together in order to conclude the rapture hasn't happened yet. In Revelation 18 it describes the destruction of "The Great Babylon" Just prior to its destruction, it states that Gods people will be taken up to avoid sharing in the judgment of The Great Babylon. Which some believe (as do I) that the Great Babylon is the United States of America. Which would explain why the US is not mentioned in end time prophecy and the Battle of Armageddon.

Some muslims believe, based on later writings of Muhamad, that if they martyr themselves they will be taken up to paradise, where they will spend eternity with 72 virgins (or their wives, whichever they choose).

Which is obviously preposterous. But to believe in the rapture based on the two words 'taken up' (translated from hebrew to greek to english) written in one of the later books in that other well-known abrahamic tract, the bible - well that is entirely sensible and it would be madness to think otherwise.

Bertros my opinion on the rapture is, I'm open to the concept but I'll believe it when I see it.

However yes I am suggesting if it exists at all, I think it might have allready happened, so sorry if you are waiting for it.

Aw shucks, I was really digging the whole evaporate in a puff of light and transcend to heaven thing. And my mom told me to always have clean underwear cause you never know when you going to rapture and it wouldn't do to meet God with dirty underwear. I mean imagine a life in paradise, surrounding by vestal virgins and you can't take your pants off cause your chuddies are grubby...

Your probably best off to stick to the clean skivies plan.

I have recently received some information recomending to avoid wearing buttons too, better safe than sorry.

Iran will use one, and give israel an excuse to lower the worlds, muslim population. Not taking sides here just my thoughts.

edmundomcpot wrote:

Guiscard wrote:

edmundomcpot wrote:England v Scotland

How would that ever happen? There may at some point in the future be a peaceful dissolution of the Union but it would never descend into all-out war.

..... nothings impossible..... but i do agree with you, no war just a bit of mistrust

yes, i seriously doubt there would be a war england v scotland, i know scotland may want to break from the union but ending up in a war is a bit OTT.

U guys got it all wrong...THIS is how the next "War to end all wars" will go. China along with N. Korea and India will work to unite most of eastern asia as Russia breaks down in cival war. Then, with little effort, most of eastern russia will fall to this new allience. And of course, with the US tied down over the oil in the middle east and their economy crumbling because of it, untied asia will launch a massive campaign down into Australia and westwards into eastern europe.

By now, as Australia crumblings along with the most eastern european nations, western europe will realize their mistakes and start planning a defense as the US military, already weakens, looses a modern 'battle of midway' and a massive invasion of North America begins. But is quickly 'bogged' down in the passes of the western mountains where a long seige begins...

Meanwhile, Africa and South america, already politically unstable, will errupt with numerous smaller wars as some countries remain neutral, others join the asian confederation and some join with the western allies.

Now back to the european front...some smaller baltic countries will join with the asian allience and some will remain neutral-france and belguim-and for the 1st time, the Swiss will join in the battle...and after Poland decides to stay neutral, the western allies act and their forces advance through poland to meet the oncoming hordes...and on the Polish plains near what was once the proud country of russia, the battles of all battles will begin.

The might of Germany, Britain, Switzerland and the Scandinavian counties, who will probably using alot of german tech, will be facing the vast hordes of the united asian confederation...

Overwhelmed, the european forces must retreat homewards as defences are set up along the German, Austrian and Italian boarder, preparing to hopefully stop the eastern invasion...

And the seige of North America will continue...with a bloody seige in the passes where one young man might just make the difference between success and failure...

And you can read several chapters of my book on Deviant art, just type in (by: WildernessMan) and you can easily find it!!!

Bavarian Raven wrote:U guys got it all wrong...THIS is how the next "War to end all wars" will go. China along with N. Korea and India will work to unite most of eastern asia as Russia breaks down in cival war. Then, with little effort, most of eastern russia will fall to this new allience. And of course, with the US tied down over the oil in the middle east and their economy crumbling because of it, untied asia will launch a massive campaign down into Australia and westwards into eastern europe.

By now, as Australia crumblings along with the most eastern european nations, western europe will realize their mistakes and start planning a defense as the US military, already weakens, looses a modern 'battle of midway' and a massive invasion of North America begins. But is quickly 'bogged' down in the passes of the western mountains where a long seige begins...

Meanwhile, Africa and South america, already politically unstable, will errupt with numerous smaller wars as some countries remain neutral, others join the asian confederation and some join with the western allies.

Now back to the european front...some smaller baltic countries will join with the asian allience and some will remain neutral-france and belguim-and for the 1st time, the Swiss will join in the battle...and after Poland decides to stay neutral, the western allies act and their forces advance through poland to meet the oncoming hordes...and on the Polish plains near what was once the proud country of russia, the battles of all battles will begin.

The might of Germany, Britain, Switzerland and the Scandinavian counties, who will probably using alot of german tech, will be facing the vast hordes of the united asian confederation...

Overwhelmed, the european forces must retreat homewards as defences are set up along the German, Austrian and Italian boarder, preparing to hopefully stop the eastern invasion...

And the seige of North America will continue...with a bloody seige in the passes where one young man might just make the difference between success and failure...

And you can read several chapters of my book on Deviant art, just type in (by: WildernessMan) and you can easily find it!!!

Interesting. Where do I type in to find your book?

Bavarian Raven wrote:U guys got it all wrong...THIS is how the next "War to end all wars" will go. China along with N. Korea and India will work to unite most of eastern asia as Russia breaks down in cival war. Then, with little effort, most of eastern russia will fall to this new allience. And of course, with the US tied down over the oil in the middle east and their economy crumbling because of it, untied asia will launch a massive campaign down into Australia and westwards into eastern europe.

By now, as Australia crumblings along with the most eastern european nations, western europe will realize their mistakes and start planning a defense as the US military, already weakens, looses a modern 'battle of midway' and a massive invasion of North America begins. But is quickly 'bogged' down in the passes of the western mountains where a long seige begins...

Meanwhile, Africa and South america, already politically unstable, will errupt with numerous smaller wars as some countries remain neutral, others join the asian confederation and some join with the western allies.

Now back to the european front...some smaller baltic countries will join with the asian allience and some will remain neutral-france and belguim-and for the 1st time, the Swiss will join in the battle...and after Poland decides to stay neutral, the western allies act and their forces advance through poland to meet the oncoming hordes...and on the Polish plains near what was once the proud country of russia, the battles of all battles will begin.

The might of Germany, Britain, Switzerland and the Scandinavian counties, who will probably using alot of german tech, will be facing the vast hordes of the united asian confederation...

Overwhelmed, the european forces must retreat homewards as defences are set up along the German, Austrian and Italian boarder, preparing to hopefully stop the eastern invasion...

And the seige of North America will continue...with a bloody seige in the passes where one young man might just make the difference between success and failure...

And you can read several chapters of my book on Deviant art, just type in (by: WildernessMan) and you can easily find it!!!

...North Korea and China will end up disagreeing with each other and try to lead skirmishes of there own, the asian alliance breaks down. Western Allies slowly take back lost countries

i doubt there will be any World War 3.

Wars like that are for territorial and power gains. Theres no need to conquer new territory in such a globalized world. To get natural resources (maybe oil, but if it becomes unstable enough people will start back pedaling and start looking into alternatives a lot more seriously) we can trade services, which there is rarely a shortage of and you don't need land for it.

as far as power's concerned, the MAD theory (Mutually Assured Destruction) means that there won't be anything worth controlling. It says that if we get into a large scale war, ONE of the countries will fire a nuke (probably the losing country when its close to being overtaken) which will prompt a retaliatory strike by the others. If the nuclear war doesn't kill us all, Nuclear winter will. If you're going to try and take power, you probably already know about this and won't bother going about it though a world war.

Everyone posting in this thread is clearly nuts. Please continue - your lunacy is riveting.

Bavarian Raven wrote:U guys got it all wrong...THIS is how the next "War to end all wars" will go. China along with N. Korea and India will work to unite most of eastern asia as Russia breaks down in cival war. Then, with little effort, most of eastern russia will fall to this new allience.

I could just be ignorant and uninfromed but I don't think India is alligned with China. I wouldn't think they would join forces.