Japan Map [abandoned]

Jota · Post by **Jota** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 2:31 am

Yeah, that makes sense. It looks to me like this one's just about ready to be Finalized.

Haydena · Post by **Haydena** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:54 am

Just one question, about the larger version of the map...

Obviously when it is resized it loses its quality big time... Do I have to completely rework the smaller map to the larger map or is there a way to resize it without it being too bad?

I think I realise now I shoulda worked on the larger version first lol

mrdexter · Post by **mrdexter** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 4:09 am

Haydena wrote:I think I realise now I shoulda worked on the larger version first lol

Jota · Post by **Jota** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:26 am

Ack!

I have no idea what to suggest, except that maybe you could get away with calling this this large version, since it is pretty tall. You could try making one that doesn't require as much scrolling on lower-res screens, to see if it's reasonably legible as a small version.

Augusta · Post by **Augusta** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 7:24 am

wow - what a great map this has become Haydena!

cannot wait to play it :-)

graphics are just so stylish and well-crafted this map deserves a reward:

The Map of Japan is hereby awarded The Far East Mapping Award for best design! (u'll get the diploma on a later date...)

Haydena · Post by **Haydena** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 2:12 pm

If the general concesus is that people like this map as it is, I think it's time to work on making the large version. Are there any objections? Especially by Andy... The XML for the small version is done, and in a few minutes (I'm playing Civ 4 across a network at the moment) I'll post up the version with the numbers on it so they can be checked...

Augusta, is it really that good? I think it looks quite inadequate compared to some of the maps myself, but hey, I enjoyed making it (Exept the XML heh)

Augusta · Post by **Augusta** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:30 pm

I think the design is great Haydena! (haven't studied the playability or anything... just how it looks)

I think it appears both stylish and very japanees (colors, texture etc.). It looks like a map someone has really made an effort with.

OK, so Europe and Africa both have great, bright colors (and design) - but the same colors would not suite Japan the same. Your choice of color is more delicate than bright - typical for Japan.

Only one suggestion:

Mount Fuji - why not make it stand out a bit? Its Japans holy mountain and important to almost all japanees. Its always snow on top of it so maybe it could be white at the top?
Or the mountain itself could be grey.

Just some thoughts - no big deal.

Haydena · Post by **Haydena** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:35 pm

Well thanks

You know what? I've just noticed a major cock up...

Shizouka, is Shizuoka... Crap... Time to go through the XML and revise the map...

qeee1 · Post by **qeee1** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:26 pm

Just on the resizing thing, I find when I'm resizing images, if I bump their colour level- ie. from 256 colours up to... um... whatever the next one is, then resize it and fix the level back down to save it, it comes out better than if I just resize it. That... may just be me/the programs I'm using though.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:59 pm

Final Forge

---The Japan Map has reached the ‘Final Forge’ Stage. I've revived this thread from the pits of the Foundry furnace and have examined the contents. Nearly every major concern has been addressed. If there are any other current concerns, please make your voice heard. There will be two days for you to post any objections; if no one has posted any protest after two days the map will be deemed finished with the 'Foundry Brand' of approval and will be submitted for live play. If after two days there is still discussion going on it may continue until said discussion has reached the conclusion that the map has reached its final and polished version.

Post questions and concerns if any.

--Andy

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 7:01 pm

Well lets see...

--And to start things off

Jota wrote: I think that the comment someone made about making the compass a little less sharp, so that it more closely resembled the style of the two drawn figures, has merit. But it's not hugely important or anything.

I think I may have originally suggested that, and I agree it is a minor thing, though something I wouldn't mind being addressed, just to keep the same feel across the map, you know?

--Andy

Haydena · Post by **Haydena** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:18 am

Right, my list of things to do... I'll add to it and delete from it according to when they get completed/requested...

- Change the sharpness of the compass, should be able to do by playing with the transparency by very small amounts at a time.

- Change the labels of Wakayama and Tokoshima so that it is more obvious which is which.

- Change the spelling of Shizouka to Shizuoka.

- Change the spelling of Shikuko to Shikoku

- Take out larger mountain to make border between Yamanashi and Saitama clearer.

- I've decided that because I have a free day today, I'm going to make the large map from a blank canvas, I have the countries before the texture was added, a simple conversion to gif then a decrease in colouring should stop it from blurring, I'll then add in the borders and names and circles as they should be, the legend can just be copied from the smaller map, and I might have space for more artwork, who knows?

ZawBanjito · Post by **ZawBanjito** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:15 am

On the last version of the map, I see "Shikuko" as a continent? That should be, "Shikoku."

It looks damn pretty.

Phobia · Post by **Phobia** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:23 am

looks like a very good map actually.

Haydena · Post by **Haydena** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:13 am

ZawBanjito wrote:On the last version of the map, I see "Shikuko" as a continent? That should be, "Shikoku."

It looks damn pretty.

You're right, another typo, infact, I'm going to check em all now lol.

rocksolid · Post by **rocksolid** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:13 pm

Lookin' good

Marvaddin · Post by **Marvaddin** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:05 pm

The border between Yamanashi and Saitama is almost invisible. And is on purpose that Kanto is easier to hold than Tohoku, but has a greater bonus?

Jota · Post by **Jota** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:17 am

It looked to me like Yamanashi and Saitama weren't supposed to border (but if that's the case, I suppose the mountains should be extended to make that clearer). And re: Tohoku, see where he responded earlier.

Haydena · Post by **Haydena** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:38 pm

Yep, thats why Tohoku is a 3, I dont want anyone taking Hokkaido, then Tohoku, and getting a massive bonus with 3 points to defend. If anyone gets drawn heavily in Tohoku, you're not screwed from the off anyway.
Yamanashi should border Saitama, I'll take out the larger mountain to make it clearer.

Nobunaga · Post by **Nobunaga** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:04 am

... I haven't been here for quite a while... been wondering when Japan would show up on the "Start Your Own Game" page.

... It's looking very very nice indeed.

... And ZawBanjito is right - It's "Shikoku", as opposed to "Shikuko".

... Looking forward to playing on it!

Haydena · Post by **Haydena** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:09 am

Should be very soon... I've had yet another hectic week... But it's the weekend once more!

Haydena · Post by **Haydena** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:36 pm

There... That's the small version...

The large version is *still* (Yes, Yes, Yes, I know it's very slow) being worked on.

Gotta get my arse in gear...

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:39 pm

Hehe, well I'm glad I'm an effective bully. Sheesh, that's small? Yowza...

---The compass almost is too light now. The first color you tried didn't work either. Was the first the same 'ink' that is in the men?

---And whenever you get a chance, post an XML image with army values centralized in the circles.

Keep it up

--Andy

Jota · Post by **Jota** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:07 pm

Is this compass in a lighter shade of grey? If so, you might consider trying the original dark shade, but with a slight transparency.

Marvaddin · Post by **Marvaddin** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:30 am

And maybe you could ad one more picture to the space under the legend, maybe shurikens...