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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:49 am
by hulmey
if you would like source Dr.spocker i can provide one for you....I could swear you and keyogi are the same person....
I think a background (multi) check should be performed...Either that or your his shadow!!!
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:51 am
by KEYOGI
That's the problem, money is made from maps. CC is hardly a charity.
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:54 am
by Spockers
Then post your source, obviously.
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:28 am
by darth_mascurse
i agree...there is money made by selling premium membership...but the names of planets are not copyrighted if I'm not mistaken.
Maybe not,though. This is one of the most major difficulties involved with Star Wars maps. but, if there is a royalty-free image approved by Lucasfilm, I can use that without copyright issues as all artwork that is royalty-free falls away from copyright issues with the company. There is no copyright on a royalty-free image, but it's the name "Star Wars" that worries me.
Ah, well, I think I'll be forgetting the whole thing anyway. I'll keep thinking until something new comes to me!
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:41 pm
by jako
i really hope this can continue, but if the name star wars is the major problem, just sacrifice it for the sake of the map. call it something that is as similar to it as possible. there are always sacrifices in the name of progress, so lets progress this map idea.
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:44 pm
by hulmey
jeez you guys are pussies...Cc does not make of the maps,....It makes money by letting customer's paly as more games if they buy premium membership...
STAR WARS - Please post ideas here!
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:15 pm
by KEYOGI
STAR WARS
FFS! I've had enough of moving and deleting posts and threads asking for a bloody Star Wars map.
There's even a Star Wars thread just a little bit down the page, but still somebody felt compelled to ask for it in a brand new thread anyway.
I'm fed up with it, so I'm turning this thread into the trash can for Star Wars suggestions. Any useless threads I find that are just asking for a Star Wars map will get merged into this thread.
Maybe if everyone can get together and share their ideas and way to get around the Copyright problem, we can get a Star Wars map on the site and then we wont have to deal with this endless and annoying situation.
If anybody wants to consider making a map look over the following threads first:
Also, copyright needs to be considered:
Every effort should be made to acquire express written consent for a map based on Copyrighted works. In the event that no response is given by the Copyright holders, the map can still be made, but must consist of completely original artwork.
So if permission is sought and there's no response, the map may go ahead as long as the map is made up of completely original artwork. That means no copy and pasting images of star wars characters, places, objects, etc.
If there is a response and it's a no, there is still hope. The map wont be able to be called Star Wars and any unique names should be avoided. Beyond that I think it should be ok.
Now please, stop creating useless threads asking for a Star Wars map!
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:17 pm
by dominationnation
i respect those few that actually tried and created a map but so many just post-can someone make a starwars map for me?
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:29 pm
by edbeard
It's all about lack of forum etiquette. People don't read before they post. It all around the foundry really. It just shows the maturity of people. /minirant
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:57 pm
by Spockers
What about the empire strikes back?
Can we suggest that?
...or can there be a rule, saying we CAN suggest star wars, but as long as it's not one of the ones directed by George Lucas?
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:33 pm
by I GOT SERVED
Can a brotha get an amen?
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:39 am
by lt_oddball
Spockers wrote:What about the empire strikes back?
Can we suggest that?
...or can there be a rule, saying we CAN suggest star wars, but as long as it's not one of the ones directed by George Lucas?
"The Reich thrusts deeply"
setting in arctic environment (no copyrights on that
) named like Kolthe with a mechanised 6 legged walking brontosaurus type thingy and a underground base with above ground flying wings unlike the speeders(c).
Sure..that is possible.
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:52 am
by lt_oddball
gimil wrote:Protection under Trademark or Unfair Competition Laws
Some brand names, trade names, slogans, and phrases may be entitled to protection under the general rules of law relating to unfair competition, or they may be entitled to protection and registration under the provisions of state or federal trademark laws. The federal trademark statute covers trademarks and service marks—those words, phrases, symbols, or designs that identify the source of the goods or services of one party and distinguish them from those of others. The Copyright Office has no role in these matters.
brand names could also be patented
Trademarked "StarWars" is thus that classic straightlettered black text with white/silver lining logo. But NOT the words Star Wars as such .
Otherwise Ronald Reagan had to pay a hefty fee to Lucasarts when he talked about the concept of his Star Wars -missiles umbrella-.
Same with "Nike" which is a normal Greek word.. only if you use their specially designed letters it would mean infringement.
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:58 am
by lt_oddball
Maybe that 's a solution : Call the map "Ronny's Star Wars" and you are off the hook.
Have the imperial troopers wear Soviet hammer and sickel, and the rebels wear the US star..and you are halfway there
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:47 am
by lt_oddball
Another brilliant idea:
Maybe you CAN use all of the original Star Wars pictures and names if you make the deal with Lucasarts that you will put advertisement/Website references on the map.
Like "please visit our sponsor
http://www.lucasarts.com/merchandise " but very small down in the corner.
Try that.
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:54 am
by gimil
lt_oddball wrote:Another brilliant idea:
Maybe you CAN use all of the original Star Wars pictures and names if you make the deal with Lucasarts that you will put advertisement/Website references on the map.
Like "please visit our sponsor
http://www.lucasarts.com/merchandise " but very small down in the corner.
Try that.
thats a very good idea. Never though of that before lol
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:06 am
by Major King
why go with the films why not user one of the books post jedi such as the corellion insurrections or the swarm or yazhoon vong wars should be easier to get around the copyrights?
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:10 am
by BeakerWMA
Better start a Star Trek map thread too or this could get ugly.
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:45 am
by jako
star trek? get ur ass out of this thread then. who cares about star trek?
Star Wars Map
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:31 pm
by Kings_poet
I think this would be a good idea but i dont know when to place the map in the starwars timeline.
Sith Wars
Movies
Yuzhann Vong Invasion
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STAR WARS - Please post ideas here!
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:19 pm
by cairnswk
STAR WARS IDEAS
Hi all, there have been many posts over this maps ideas for Star Wars maps. There are varying issues including copyright that might prevent this idea from taking off.
Please post all your ideas and topics below.
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:11 am
by Gnome
Wy doesn't some1 just start with a map...all those ideas are just asking for discussions...Some1 take a map, make a draft, post it and ask people what they think...People only post ideas but don't realy post anything to work with...
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:39 am
by cairnswk
Gnome wrote:Wy doesn't some1 just start with a map...all those ideas are just asking for discussions...Some1 take a map, make a draft, post it and ask people what they think...People only post ideas but don't realy post anything to work with...
Gnome...please read the thread above from Keyogi if you haven't already.
There a copyright issues involved with this subject matter and if anyone wants to take them up then by all means do so, but i don't think andy or lackattack would be pleased to see a Star Wars map without proof that copyright has been approved from the original owner of the concept.
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:15 am
by Gnome
just make it all your own graphics, change some little things, names etc.
I'm sure you can make a nice starwars map that looks like it but is not realy stolen so no copyright issues...look at what I did with Midkemia...
Star Wars Copyright
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:10 am
by cairnswk
If anyone is interested, below is the link to the Starwars Copyright page, refer point 2. Ownership, for your information.
http://www.starwars.com/welcome/about/copyright.html
Everything about Stars Wars movies including characters is copyrighted to Lucasfilm Ltd.
All trademarks, service marks, and trade names are proprietary to Lucasfilm Ltd. or its affiliates and/or third-party licensors. STAR WARS, STARWARS.COM; STAR WARS: EPISODE I THE PHANTOM MENACE; STAR WARS: EPISODE II ATTACK OF THE CLONES; STAR WARS: EPISODE III REVENGE OF THE SITH; STAR WARS: EPISODE IV A NEW HOPE; STAR WARS: EPISODE V THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK; STAR WARS: EPISODE VI RETURN OF THE JEDI (collectively referred to herein as the “Star Wars Pictures”) and all other Lucasfilm productions, and all logos, characters, artwork, stories, information, names, and other elements associated thereto are the sole and exclusive property of Lucasfilm Ltd.. Any use of any of the materials on this Site other than for private, non-commercial viewing purposes is strictly prohibited. The sale, auction, lease, loan, gift, trade or barter, or use of any of the materials contained herein, for any other purpose except as expressly permitted pursuant to these Terms of Use, in any form, media or technology now known or hereafter developed, including the use of any of the aforementioned materials on any other Web site or networked computer environment, without a prior written consent from Lucas, is expressly prohibited. Except as expressly provided for under the Terms of Use, the creation of derivative works based on the materials contained herein is expressly prohibited.