Conquer Club

Snorri1234 wrote:Yay for failed threads.

Why would it be a failed thread? We're just waiting for the mods to create the clan.

and what a clan......64 people voted saying they would be interested.

Good. Start it up.

Like Ray said, we're waiting on the mods.

Ixnay on the rivatepay orumfay.

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Huh. Well, kids, I suppose I'll wish you luck. My hopes for this clan are obviously low enough to give up on it. It seems to me that a clan with a few ground rules would be the perfect opportunity for pure discourse between all points of view. But any attempt to restrict that can't be expected to reach any sort of potential of worth as far as debate. So I wish you luck, and wash my hands of it.

Neoteny wrote:Huh. Well, kids, I suppose I'll wish you luck. My hopes for this clan are obviously low enough to give up on it.

It's better to aim high and miss than to not try at all. Throwing a wet blanket on the whole thing won't help at all. As many people have stated repeatedly, if the forum really doesn't turn out, it's very simple to click "Resign Selected."

Neoteny wrote:It seems to me that a clan with a few ground rules would be the perfect opportunity for pure discourse between all points of view. But any attempt to restrict that can't be expected to reach any sort of potential of worth as far as debate.

So you say ground rules would be good, and then you say people shouldn't be restricted??

Ray Rider wrote:

Neoteny wrote:It seems to me that a clan with a few ground rules would be the perfect opportunity for pure discourse between all points of view. But any attempt to restrict that can't be expected to reach any sort of potential of worth as far as debate.

So you say ground rules would be good, and then you say people shouldn't be restricted??

Restricted entry, of course. Moderation of discussion will, of course, be necessary, but an initial screening will serve to stifle debate.

I suppose in the end, at worst, it will be a waste of time.

Why dont you guys just start your own civil discussion forum. You know,....build it.

And you can all meet there and be happy. In one extra click!!!

Where is it, can't wait to see what the "christians" do with their new clan dedicated to civil discussion. Will they crusade out to other forums and slaughter the heathens? Will they pray on games? Will they hold secret inquisition courts about the blaspheming players? Will they create multis to act as mercenaries in god's name?

Or will they just talk to each other and leave the rest of us alone? -- fat chance.

You do realize that this thread/clan idea was started by an atheist.........right?


The Jesus Freak's clan has about 150 members and that forum is active. Why would we need another one? The idea here is for people with differing viewpoints to discuss them without wasting time with petty put-downs and the like.

And your point is?

You seem to be talking as if this is some Christian place where we are planning to go and talk. We've got that. The point here is to talk with people interested in getting deeper into topics of discussion without dealing with trolls, who seem to think the insult is the highest form of discourse.

What are you talking about?

CrazyAnglican wrote:You do realize that this thread/clan idea was started by an atheist.........right?

Actually, he's an agnostic.

Still don't see what any of that has to do with my post.

Wow. Viewing the poll results just now, I was shocked to learn that 79% of voters are liberal.

CrazyAnglican wrote:You seem to be talking as if this is some Christian place where we are planning to go and talk. We've got that. The point here is to talk with people interested in getting deeper into topics of discussion without dealing with trolls, who seem to think the insult is the highest form of discourse.

Since "millitant atheists" are excluded from the conversation it does seem like a place where Christians don't really wanna hear any criticism.

HapSmo19 wrote:Ixnay on the rivatepay orumfay.

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Please read the forum guidelines:

The Guidelines wrote:The “l337” poster knows to ask himself/herself 3 basic questions before pressing the all powerful “submit” button:

One: Is my post really necessary or is it just mental diarrhea?
Two: Am I trolling or feeding a troll?
Three: Really?

And your point is?

HapSmo19 wrote:Wow. Viewing the poll results just now, I was shocked to learn that 79% of voters are liberal.

Liberal meaning... restricting discussion? I must not understand you here...

A forum encouraging civil debate, I can support. A forum discouraging all viewpoints, I cannot.

Ray Rider wrote:Please read the forum guidelines:

The Guidelines wrote:The “l337” poster knows to ask himself/herself 3 basic questions before pressing the all powerful “submit” button:

One: Is my post really necessary or is it just mental diarrhea?
Two: Am I trolling or feeding a troll?
Three: Really?

One: Should the OP have not asked himself these same questions?
Two: Are people not aware of the options(ignore list) and devices(scroll wheel) that are already in place to deal with these issues?
Three: Who would comprise the body of the Gestapo that would have the final say of who gets to post there?
Four: I'll ask again: Why dont you just start your own "private civil discussion forum"? (A $30 monthly bill between sixty+ of you is less than fifty cents each)
Five: Why does it have to be here?

These are honest, non-trolling questions. Would someone in favor of this new forum please answer them?

Snorri1234 wrote:

CrazyAnglican wrote:You do realize that this thread/clan idea was started by an atheist.........right?

Actually, he's an agnostic.

Okay, and that further's your point how?

mpjh wrote:Where is it, can't wait to see what the "christians" do with their new clan dedicated to civil discussion. .............

seems pretty obvious what it has to do with it there. It wouldn't be our forum any more than it would belong to any other viewpoint.

Neoteny wrote:A forum encouraging civil debate, I can support. A forum discouraging all viewpoints, I cannot.

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Nobody is being excluded due to viewpoint, tactics however are a factor.

And your point is?