Conquer Club

Chris7He wrote:

Gregrios wrote:It all depends on how you classify "most evil tyrant". If it's to do with the most killed in the 20th century, then it would undoubtably be one of those choices. From what I gather, Mao.

If you determine the most evil tyrant by the person who has had the worst impact on all of civilization, well, she's not on the list. This paticular lady would win every vote for every century from the beginning of time.

Every 10 to a 100 years her name changes but her motivations stay the same. She alone is the reason why the world is the way it is.

"She forsaked her childhood partner and poured out her wrath on all of the world."

Do you mean the devil?

BTW. My mom and her parents lived under Mao's rule. She and her parents wholeheartedly support Mao Zedong, except for when he took away their property. Mao was not a tyrant. He tried to advance China with good intentions, but did not forsee many consequences.

Not much choice BUT to support Mao. Well meaning, but, a Tyrant is not much different from a dictator in all truth. And because of Mao's "Great Leap Forward," untold millions suffered and died.

muy_thaiguy wrote:

Chris7He wrote:

Gregrios wrote:It all depends on how you classify "most evil tyrant". If it's to do with the most killed in the 20th century, then it would undoubtably be one of those choices. From what I gather, Mao.

If you determine the most evil tyrant by the person who has had the worst impact on all of civilization, well, she's not on the list. This paticular lady would win every vote for every century from the beginning of time.

Every 10 to a 100 years her name changes but her motivations stay the same. She alone is the reason why the world is the way it is.

"She forsaked her childhood partner and poured out her wrath on all of the world."

Do you mean the devil?

BTW. My mom and her parents lived under Mao's rule. She and her parents wholeheartedly support Mao Zedong, except for when he took away their property. Mao was not a tyrant. He tried to advance China with good intentions, but did not forsee many consequences.

Not much choice BUT to support Mao. Well meaning, but, a Tyrant is not much different from a dictator in all truth. And because of Mao's "Great Leap Forward," untold millions suffered and died.

Yes, but it had good intentions. Hitler killed millions because he wanted them to die and Stalin just randomly killed people and made up excuses for it.

I'm a liberal, so it has to be Stalin. There is really no debate on the issue.

suggs wrote:I'm a liberal, so it has to be Stalin. There is really no debate on the issue.

Amen, but what about Hitler?

Chris7He wrote:

suggs wrote:I'm a liberal, so it has to be Stalin. There is really no debate on the issue.

Amen, but what about Hitler?

Oh God, yes a complete monster, and almost certainly no. 2.
I think once you reach a certain stage of evil it gets a bit absurd trying to rank them.
But Stalin killed more people than Hitler, so thats the only way to really measure it.
They both thought it was for a good cause, so all talk of motives etc is a nonsense.
But Htler is prob. no. 2.

suggs wrote:

Chris7He wrote:

suggs wrote:I'm a liberal, so it has to be Stalin. There is really no debate on the issue.

Amen, but what about Hitler?

Oh God, yes a complete monster, and almost certainly no. 2.
I think once you reach a certain stage of evil it gets a bit absurd trying to rank them.
But Stalin killed more people than Hitler, so thats the only way to really measure it.
They both thought it was for a good cause, so all talk of motives etc is a nonsense.
But Htler is prob. no. 2.

No. Hitler and Stalin intentionally killed people, but Mao did not.

PS- This is irrelevant, but why did you start flaming everyone?

er i didnt mention Mao. The cultural revolution was dodgy though.

re: flaming, i get bored sometimes...

id like to hear the argument from those who voted for Saddam over stalin or hitler or mao.

got tonkaed wrote:id like to hear the argument from those who voted for Saddam over stalin or hitler or mao.

I feel they've just been brainwashed by conservative propaganda.

I voted for Stalin. Franco seems like one of the best manipulators of the 20th century. After all he stayed in power after WWII was over. He outfoxed Fascists, Communists, and the Allies.

Margeret Thatcher should join the list of shame. She showed her true colours recently when she tried to get General Pinochet safe haven in the UK.

All the good people have a wonderful dream Maggie on a guillotine : Morrisey

Stalin was actually not that bad.....the fact that he was against the US was why he is hated so much. I voted hitler well because he killed inocint people




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soundout9 wrote:Stalin was actually not that bad.....the fact that he was against the US was why he is hated so much. I voted hitler well because he killed inocint people




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Stalin killed, and was responsible for far more deaths then Hitler. He had military officers executed because he thought they would hinder his power. He advocated (along with Lenin before him) the use of terrorism upon the people.

muy_thaiguy wrote:

soundout9 wrote:Stalin was actually not that bad.....the fact that he was against the US was why he is hated so much. I voted hitler well because he killed inocint people




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Stalin killed, and was responsible for far more deaths then Hitler. He had military officers executed because he thought they would hinder his power. He advocated (along with Lenin before him) the use of terrorism upon the people.

Maybe im confusing him with someone else.....

Stalin was the biggest mass murderer of all time, I think he has the record for most killed. If anyone can come up with better numbers then please post.

graeme89 wrote:Stalin was the biggest mass murderer of all time, I think he has the record for most killed. If anyone can come up with better numbers then please post.

Mao would be the only real rival, in that the estimates for those that died under him, is still yet to be determined, yet lowest numbers are around 40 million.

Guiscard wrote:

Gregrios wrote:It all depends on how you classify "most evil tyrant". If it's to do with the most killed in the 20th century, then it would undoubtably be one of those choices. From what I gather, Mao.

If you determine the most evil tyrant by the person who has had the worst impact on all of civilization, well, she's not on the list. This paticular lady would win every vote for every century from the beginning of time.

Every 10 to a 100 years her name changes but her motivations stay the same. She alone is the reason why the world is the way it is.

"She forsaked her childhood partner and poured out her wrath on all of the world."

Germaine Greer?

Who is Germaine Greer? Sounds like a guys name to me. If so, then no that's not who I'm talking about and no I'm not talking about the devil either, Chris. The Bible clearly states that the devil is a man by referring to him as "he". Plus, the devil does not do his work above ground, he does it below.

The person I'm talking about is among us and was among every generation before us. I do not know her name but the Bible mentions her numberous times. God refers to her as Wisdom, great whore, loose woman, and adultress. These are mentioned in various parts throughout the Bible. Her two biggest assets are knowledge and discretion, which leads me to believe that no one actually knows her name.

It's possible that she has used the same name throughout the ages but I don't think so. I would imagine that she changes her name every 10 to a 100 years inorder to keep discretion.

There's a big difference between the intentions of the devil and this lady. The devil looks to destroy the human spirit, while this lady seeks to simply live a life of luxary. In doing so, she actually helps the devil in his goals.

If you were ever to meet this lady, you would be impressed by her words of wisdom and suduced by her words of knowledge. A very capable woman with a huge secret to bear.

Gregrios wrote:
Who is Germaine Greer? Sounds like a guys name to me. If so, then no that's not who I'm talking about and no I'm not talking about the devil either, Chris. The Bible clearly states that the devil is a man by referring to him as "he". Plus, the devil does not do his work above ground, he does it below.

The person I'm talking about is among us and was among every generation before us. I do not know her name but the Bible mentions her numberous times. God refers to her as Wisdom, great whore, loose woman, and adultress. These are mentioned in various parts throughout the Bible. Her two biggest assets are knowledge and discretion, which leads me to believe that no one actually knows her name.

It's possible that she has used the same name throughout the ages but I don't think so. I would imagine that she changes her name every 10 to a 100 years inorder to keep discretion.

There's a big difference between the intentions of the devil and this lady. The devil looks to destroy the human spirit, while this lady seeks to simply live a life of luxary. In doing so, she actually helps the devil in his goals.

If you where ever to meet this lady, you would be impressed by her words of wisdom and suduced by her words of knowledge. A very capable woman with a huge secret to bear.

i apologize in advance, because i realize i will probably not be able to post here without being condescending. However in some way, i have hope that if i beat Backglass to this post, it wont be quite as bad.

I find it somewhat amazing that you could believe there is some female who has somehow not died, lived in a life of luxury throughout human experience, and has in someway lived as a tyrant. The fact that this seemingly goes against nearly everything we know about the human condition and delves into such absurdity it is difficult to comprehend how this is palatable to anyones mind.

Furthermore, the qualities you suggest this woman has, knowledge and discretion, are seemingly qualities that arent terrible for an individual to have. Wisdom has also seemingly been a pretty good trait for quite some time now. It is amazing that you could consider these traits as negative in some odd anthromporization.

I just cant believe you would actually believe this.

Gregrios wrote:

Guiscard wrote:

Gregrios wrote:It all depends on how you classify "most evil tyrant". If it's to do with the most killed in the 20th century, then it would undoubtably be one of those choices. From what I gather, Mao.

If you determine the most evil tyrant by the person who has had the worst impact on all of civilization, well, she's not on the list. This paticular lady would win every vote for every century from the beginning of time.

Every 10 to a 100 years her name changes but her motivations stay the same. She alone is the reason why the world is the way it is.

"She forsaked her childhood partner and poured out her wrath on all of the world."

Germaine Greer?

Who is Germaine Greer? Sounds like a guys name to me. If so, then no that's not who I'm talking about and no I'm not talking about the devil either, Chris. The Bible clearly states that the devil is a man by referring to him as "he". Plus, the devil does not do his work above ground, he does it below.

The person I'm talking about is among us and was among every generation before us. I do not know her name but the Bible mentions her numberous times. God refers to her as Wisdom, great whore, loose woman, and adultress. These are mentioned in various parts throughout the Bible. Her two biggest assets are knowledge and discretion, which leads me to believe that no one actually knows her name.

It's possible that she has used the same name throughout the ages but I don't think so. I would imagine that she changes her name every 10 to a 100 years inorder to keep discretion.

There's a big difference between the intentions of the devil and this lady. The devil looks to destroy the human spirit, while this lady seeks to simply live a life of luxary. In doing so, she actually helps the devil in his goals.

If you were ever to meet this lady, you would be impressed by her words of wisdom and suduced by her words of knowledge. A very capable woman with a huge secret to bear.

very inteligent and informative post thx.

Gregrios wrote:

Guiscard wrote:

Gregrios wrote:It all depends on how you classify "most evil tyrant". If it's to do with the most killed in the 20th century, then it would undoubtably be one of those choices. From what I gather, Mao.

If you determine the most evil tyrant by the person who has had the worst impact on all of civilization, well, she's not on the list. This paticular lady would win every vote for every century from the beginning of time.

Every 10 to a 100 years her name changes but her motivations stay the same. She alone is the reason why the world is the way it is.

"She forsaked her childhood partner and poured out her wrath on all of the world."

Germaine Greer?

Who is Germaine Greer?

It was a joke.

This is Germaine Greer. Its probably more of a British joke really...

muy_thaiguy wrote:

graeme89 wrote:Stalin was the biggest mass murderer of all time, I think he has the record for most killed. If anyone can come up with better numbers then please post.

Mao would be the only real rival, in that the estimates for those that died under him, is still yet to be determined, yet lowest numbers are around 40 million.

Mao killed a few million. Hitler killed six million Jews, not to mention millions more political dissents, homosexuals, anti-socials, mentally ill, and retards plus torture. Stalin killed twenty million people by sending them to Siberia and having them slaughtered like pigs in freezing concentration camp conditions. Stalin and Hitler are pretty close competitors.

Chris7He wrote:

muy_thaiguy wrote:

graeme89 wrote:Stalin was the biggest mass murderer of all time, I think he has the record for most killed. If anyone can come up with better numbers then please post.

Mao would be the only real rival, in that the estimates for those that died under him, is still yet to be determined, yet lowest numbers are around 40 million.

Mao killed a few million. Hitler killed six million Jews, not to mention millions more political dissents, homosexuals, anti-socials, mentally ill, and retards plus torture. Stalin killed twenty million people by sending them to Siberia and having them slaughtered like pigs in freezing concentration camp conditions. Stalin and Hitler are pretty close competitors.

A few? He was responsible for almost as many deaths as Stalin! The only difference is that the bare minimum is about the only definite number! At least 20 million! Estimates go as high as 100 million!

muy_thaiguy wrote:

Chris7He wrote:

muy_thaiguy wrote:

graeme89 wrote:Stalin was the biggest mass murderer of all time, I think he has the record for most killed. If anyone can come up with better numbers then please post.

Mao would be the only real rival, in that the estimates for those that died under him, is still yet to be determined, yet lowest numbers are around 40 million.

Mao killed a few million. Hitler killed six million Jews, not to mention millions more political dissents, homosexuals, anti-socials, mentally ill, and retards plus torture. Stalin killed twenty million people by sending them to Siberia and having them slaughtered like pigs in freezing concentration camp conditions. Stalin and Hitler are pretty close competitors.

A few? He was responsible for almost as many deaths as Stalin! The only difference is that the bare minimum is about the only definite number! At least 20 million! Estimates go as high as 100 million!

Capitalist bullshit. Don't listen to such propaganda. Mao Zedong never killed anyone intentionally. He encouraged reproduction resulting in a boom from two hundred million to a billion citizens.

Chris7He wrote:

muy_thaiguy wrote:

Chris7He wrote:

muy_thaiguy wrote:

graeme89 wrote:Stalin was the biggest mass murderer of all time, I think he has the record for most killed. If anyone can come up with better numbers then please post.

Mao would be the only real rival, in that the estimates for those that died under him, is still yet to be determined, yet lowest numbers are around 40 million.

Mao killed a few million. Hitler killed six million Jews, not to mention millions more political dissents, homosexuals, anti-socials, mentally ill, and retards plus torture. Stalin killed twenty million people by sending them to Siberia and having them slaughtered like pigs in freezing concentration camp conditions. Stalin and Hitler are pretty close competitors.

A few? He was responsible for almost as many deaths as Stalin! The only difference is that the bare minimum is about the only definite number! At least 20 million! Estimates go as high as 100 million!

Capitalist bullshit. Don't listen to such propaganda. Mao Zedong never killed anyone intentionally. He encouraged reproduction resulting in a boom from two hundred million to a billion citizens.

... You just go on thinking that then.

... "Capitalist Bullshit"? Hmmmm, and so what are you then?

...

Nobunaga wrote:

Chris7He wrote:

muy_thaiguy wrote:

Chris7He wrote:

muy_thaiguy wrote:

graeme89 wrote:Stalin was the biggest mass murderer of all time, I think he has the record for most killed. If anyone can come up with better numbers then please post.

Mao would be the only real rival, in that the estimates for those that died under him, is still yet to be determined, yet lowest numbers are around 40 million.

Mao killed a few million. Hitler killed six million Jews, not to mention millions more political dissents, homosexuals, anti-socials, mentally ill, and retards plus torture. Stalin killed twenty million people by sending them to Siberia and having them slaughtered like pigs in freezing concentration camp conditions. Stalin and Hitler are pretty close competitors.

A few? He was responsible for almost as many deaths as Stalin! The only difference is that the bare minimum is about the only definite number! At least 20 million! Estimates go as high as 100 million!

Capitalist bullshit. Don't listen to such propaganda. Mao Zedong never killed anyone intentionally. He encouraged reproduction resulting in a boom from two hundred million to a billion citizens.

... You just go on thinking that then.

... "Capitalist Bullshit"? Hmmmm, and so what are you then?

...

Liberal communist (people)/Fascist (autocrat)