Conquer Club

and atleast termination game must be removed. You can win it but still only be the second or third best player in that game. So i think a win doesnt represent a "real" win

f*** it, i can't be assed to nag anymore, looks like my achievements will not reach that wonderful list ,

juventino wrote:and atleast termination game must be removed. You can win it but still only be the second or third best player in that game. So i think a win doesnt represent a "real" win
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WIN % AND NUMBER OF WINS (Please dont ask me for teamgames. I will not play team anymore)
3 Player Single: 76 % - 47 Wins
6 P.Sing.Stand: 47 % - 18 Wins
4 PlayerDouble: 84 % - 68 Wins
4 P.Sing.Stand: 47 % - 14 wins

Good point about terminator games....

Based on your listed stats, if we use the maniac handicap method your stats would look something like this:
3 Player Single: 76% w/47 Wins would be equiv to 38% w/ 24 wins
6 P.Sing.Stand: 47% w/18 Wins --------- is ---------- 47% w/ 18 wins
4 PlayerDouble: 84% w/68 wins would be equiv to 28% w/ 23 wins
4 P.Sing.Stand: 47% w/14 wins would be equiv to 31% w/ 9 wins

So for the 211 games represented above, you have a 6P(std) weighted win ratio of 35%....

Can we have some math people chime in on the maniac's percentages
Looks reasonable to me, but might be missing something....
Really cool idea though.

And for fun, I worked Juve's numbers as having a 4P(doubles) weighted win ratio of 105% (really, no joke)

seems about right, 35% for 6 player games is very good, but the problem is trying to factor in opponents skill level. Maybe it would be more telling by keeping separate scores for public games and private all colonel games.

maniacmath17 wrote:seems about right, 35% for 6 player games is very good, but the problem is trying to factor in opponents skill level. Maybe it would be more telling by keeping separate scores for public games and private all colonel games.

You are right, but ugh .... without any reference to the score, there is no "handicapping" as to the value of an individual win....
Seems like this win loss ratio will need to be blended somehow with the score...
Otherwise the top #'s will belong to noob hunters.

Yes.. it is so many aspects to take notice of. good players vs bad. And it is strange not to take notice of the pure score too.

Ok, to begin with I admit that I haven't read through the entire thread. So maybe I'm repeating someone else here. But I'm curious. I've seen others of these summaries made by Robinette. How on earth do you do it? Manually?

my singles score keeps rising it's currently at 2782

alstergren wrote:Ok, to begin with I admit that I haven't read through the entire thread. So maybe I'm repeating someone else here. But I'm curious. I've seen others of these summaries made by Robinette. How on earth do you do it? Manually?

Yes, others have asked, but for YOU an answer we shall give....
It's Mostly Manual, yes... so really a nuisance furshur....
We are all hoping for a better way, something that really works....
Keeping our fingers crossed that lack makes our life easier with all this...

what we need is an auto filter on the scoreboard

Kid_A wrote:my singles score keeps rising it's currently at 2782

i believe that puts me at #1

Kid_A wrote:

Kid_A wrote:my singles score keeps rising it's currently at 2782

i believe that puts me at #1

LOL kid, so full of yourself

Kid_A wrote:

Kid_A wrote:my singles score keeps rising it's currently at 2782

i believe that puts me at #1

no kid... read the post entirely
your team losses no longer add to your score

Also, this is not being updated in real time....
So fill yourself up with pride, and then keep it to yourself

And at 2584 you are still #4

Robinette wrote:

Kid_A wrote:

Kid_A wrote:my singles score keeps rising it's currently at 2782

i believe that puts me at #1

no kid... read the post entirely
your team losses no longer add to your score

Also, this is not being updated in real time....
So fill yourself up with pride, and then keep it to yourself

And at 2584 you are still #4

hey, im not the one who made the list.

and here's one for you poo

2461 is my new highest score, so even discounting my loss from the 3 team games I should move up pretty high on the list.

EDIT- blagh, that score is 150 higher than what you previously had me at, but I don't move up a single place. Lame!

Now I'm at 2511.

Ever since Robinette created the unofficial singles scoreboard my points have been skyrocketing!! It's amazing what a little motivation can do for players who think that attacking noobs with well-oiled triples teams is lame.

ok I play alot of doubles and i want to see my score that represents no Team games. How do I do this. Should I go through by hand? When does this take effect? How should I tally points up? I am confused on how you are coming up with the numbers.

ok jr after spending 69 hours going over your games and taking out your teams points u r sitting at minis 382 points lmfao

NUKE wrote:ok jr after spending 69 hours going over your games and taking out your teams points u r sitting at minis 382 points lmfao

LOL, is that a joke?

This is falling awfully far down the page list, especially because I know Robin has been keeping this updated...

I'm definitely on the list by now... If i count up my points will you put me up robin?

edit: I'm on 2466 at the moment, my team games now add up to +56. So can you put me on the score board at 2410 pls.

Updated 4/25/07

I now present to you...
Top 10 Highest Singles Players Scores
(without team points)



....................... current score .............. current ............. highest .......
.......................... with NO...................... score................. score .......
........................ team games.................(4/25/07)............... ever .......

1. Robinette. . . . . . 2727 . . . . . . . . . . . 2843 . . . . . . . . 3021
2. Lazaruslong . . . .2634 . . . . . . . . . . . 2788 . . . . . . . . 2886
3. Jolly Roger . . . . .2542 . . . . . . . . . . .2542 . . . . . . . . 2571
4. artur1 . . . . . . . . .2532. . . . . . . . . . . 2656 . . . . . . . . 2656
5. sully800 . . . . . . .2522 . . . . . . . . . . .2522 . . . . . . . . 2552
6. maniacmath. . . . .2458. . . . . . . . . . . 2789. . . . . . . . .3185
7. Nuke. . . . . . . . . . 2454. . . . . . . . . . . 2454 . . . . . . . . 3160
8. ZawBanjito. . . . . 2450 . . . . . . . . . . .2450. . . . . . . . .2558
9. Kid_A . . . . . . . . . 2410 . . . . . . . . . . .2573 . . . . . . . . 2573
10. Cellar . . . . . . . . 2350 . . . . . . . . . . .2468 . . . . . . . . 2468?
11. Cyberdaniel . . . 2283 . . . . . . . . . . .2404 . . . . . . . . 3145
12. Goatboy . . . . . . 2176 . . . . . . . . . . .2258. . . . . . . . .2340




Many problems exisit in trying to create an accurate list of singles only scores with the current scoring system.
In an effort to create a fair representation, without encouraging anyone to manipulate any scoring system, this list has been revamped with 2 changes from the original version....

The 1st problem to be addressed was the accuracy of removing team scores. As pointed out earlier in this thread, the higher the ratio of team games the higher the scoring error can be. The solution to this 1st problem is to limit this list to players who focus on singles games, using 88% minimum single games... or no more than 12% being team games.

The 2nd problem was the method of adjusting the score when someone had poor team scores. As pointed out in this thread, intentional team losses would be calculated as point gains in your singles score. The solution to this 2nd problem is to limit the point adjustment to a zero gain effect for the singles score.

Obviously this is not the perfect way to calculate these scores, but it is the best we can do with what we have to work with. There are many who continue to have their fingers crossed that Lack will improve the situation with regards to score calculations in the coming update. I am one of those people.

Scores have been REDUCED to remove any Positive effect from team games

Robinette wrote:Updated 4/25/07

I now present to you...
Top 10 Highest Singles Players Scores
(without team points)



....................... current score .............. current ............. highest .......
.......................... with NO...................... score................. score .......
........................ team games.................(5/25/07)............... ever .......

1. Robinette. . . . . . 2727 . . . . . . . . . . . 2843 . . . . . . . . 3021
2. Lazaruslong . . . .2634 . . . . . . . . . . . 2788 . . . . . . . . 2886
3. Jolly Roger . . . . .2542 . . . . . . . . . . .2542 . . . . . . . . 2542?
4. artur1 . . . . . . . . .2532. . . . . . . . . . . 2656 . . . . . . . . 2656
5. sully800 . . . . . . .2522 . . . . . . . . . . .2522 . . . . . . . . 2387
6. maniacmath. . . . .2458. . . . . . . . . . . 2789. . . . . . . . .3185
7. Nuke. . . . . . . . . . 2454. . . . . . . . . . . 2454 . . . . . . . . 3160
8. ZawBanjito. . . . . 2450 . . . . . . . . . . .2450. . . . . . . . .2558
9. Kid_A . . . . . . . . . 2410 . . . . . . . . . . .2573 . . . . . . . . 2573
10. Cyberdaniel . . . 2283 . . . . . . . . . . .2404 . . . . . . . . 3145
11. Goatboy . . . . . . 2176 . . . . . . . . . . .2258. . . . . . . . .2340




Many problems exisit in trying to create an accurate list of singles only scores with the current scoring system.
In an effort to create a fair representation, without encouraging anyone to manipulate any scoring system, this list has been revamped with 2 changes from the original version....

The 1st problem to be addressed was the accuracy of removing team scores. As pointed out earlier in this thread, the higher the ratio of team games the higher the scoring error can be. The solution to this 1st problem is to limit this list to players who focus on singles games, using 88% minimum single games... or no more than 12% being team games.

The 2nd problem was the method of adjusting the score when someone had poor team scores. As pointed out in this thread, intentional team losses would be calculated as point gains in your singles score. The solution to this 2nd problem is to limit the point adjustment to a zero gain effect for the singles score.

Obviously this is not the perfect way to calculate these scores, but it is the best we can do with what we have to work with. There are many who continue to have their fingers crossed that Lack will improve the situation with regards to score calculations in the coming update. I am one of those people.

Scores have been REDUCED to remove any Positive effect from team games

Singles is so hard when you rank is over 3500. I mean just recently I played 3 singles games, 6 players per game, all super elite players, and most if not all had close to 2500 rankings plus, I won 1 and lost 2 and lost points. I mean I win 60 for a win and lose 32 and 33 for each loss? I win 1 of 3 games and lose 5 points, lol (rolls eyes) this has constantly happened to me over the months, which is why i play more teams. Now if my rank was 2500, i would play way more singles game, they are pretty fun when you got super players playing, but so hard to maintain a 50 percent win rate in singles, extremely difficult, almost impossible against super players and luck dice at times. congrats to al on the list above

poo-maker wrote:I'm definitely on the list by now... If i count up my points will you put me up robin?

edit: I'm on 2466 at the moment, my team games now add up to +56. So can you put me on the score board at 2410 pls.

looks like you may have forgot poo

Blitzaholic wrote:

poo-maker wrote:I'm definitely on the list by now... If i count up my points will you put me up robin?

edit: I'm on 2466 at the moment, my team games now add up to +56. So can you put me on the score board at 2410 pls.

looks like you may have forgot poo

Please read the fine print

Many problems exisit in trying to create an accurate list of singles only scores with the current scoring system.
In an effort to create a fair representation, without encouraging anyone to manipulate any scoring system, this list has been revamped with 2 changes from the original version....

The 1st problem to be addressed was the accuracy of removing team scores. As pointed out earlier in this thread, the higher the ratio of team games the higher the scoring error can be. The solution to this 1st problem is to limit this list to players who focus on singles games, using 88% minimum single games... or no more than 12% being team games.

The 2nd problem was the method of adjusting the score when someone had poor team scores. As pointed out in this thread, intentional team losses would be calculated as point gains in your singles score. The solution to this 2nd problem is to limit the point adjustment to a zero gain effect for the singles score.

Obviously this is not the perfect way to calculate these scores, but it is the best we can do with what we have to work with. There are many who continue to have their fingers crossed that Lack will improve the situation with regards to score calculations in the coming update. I am one of those people.