Conquer Club

smegal69 wrote:
so please !!!! the Power to Be, strip me of this medal, i don't wish this tarnished medal any longer

It's just a few pixels, all will be forgotten after we pull another one for Myth

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Postby Great-Ollie on Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:02 pm
Ok guys i apologize too, let us move on and i will try and represent you better in the future. Let's all try and be cough, cough, respectful in forums, and to mods from this point on. Let's rebuild our rep and be the only undefeated clan on CC! Any problems keep in this private forum please, anything else positive feel free to post in threads. Thanks again. We did not get a fair shake, we were made an example of, so let us take the high road and destroy our competition. Hopefully in future mods can communicate a little better with us before they lay down rulings.

For the record we are done fighting. We cannot win this battle so it is foolish to continue. This is what i wrote to my guys in our private forum, so please see that i am trying to take the higher road. I only ask that in the future could rules, rulings, etc. be better communicated between mods, and the guilty parties. If you need help with that i would gladly throw my hat in the ring in whatever way i can. Secondly to IA, can we please play you again so i can get a medal? lol Just kidding, everyone who came to our defense thanks, we appreciate it. To chemefreak, sorry mate things got out of hand, i apologize for my end. Good day everyone.

Maybe it's not you Ollie afterall; your people surely don't listen to the clan leader, which is probably why your clan runs amuck.

Please stop trying to bait my guys codeblue, you are entitled to your opinion of coarse. Very nice job in your clan war by the way, hope you can pull off the upset. Have a nice day.

Great-Ollie wrote:Please stop trying to bait my guys codeblue, you are entitled to your opinion of coarse. Very nice job in your clan war by the way, hope you can pull off the upset. Have a nice day.

Baiting your clanmates isn't and wasn't my intent Ollie. Thanks for the mention of my clan war; extremely tough battle by a great clan. We ll see what shakes out soon enough; not sure I would call it an "upset" if we do indeed move on to Kort.

codeblue1018 wrote:

Great-Ollie wrote:Please stop trying to bait my guys codeblue, you are entitled to your opinion of coarse. Very nice job in your clan war by the way, hope you can pull off the upset. Have a nice day.

Baiting your clanmates isn't and wasn't my intent Ollie. Thanks for the mention of my clan war; extremely tough battle by a great clan. We ll see what shakes out soon enough.

No worries mate. Good luck, and pull off that upset!

Great-Ollie wrote:Hey fellow CC'ers. I have an issue and i would like you opinions on it please. Check out this thread. viewtopic.php?f=438&t=157612

merged with the original topic.

Great-Ollie wrote:......Thirdly do i really need to go through the last Thota BPB thread and show you what inappropriate is? They all got their medals? .......

I just found this.

So Ollie, I want to know exactly where you think THOTA baited, name called, and flamed BpB to the point that rules were broken. In addition, which THOTA members shouldnt have gotten their medals (in your opinion)? I just went and reread the entire challenge thread myself. What I found was a bunch of immaturity from one clan, who posted nearly 90% of the posts there. Needless to say, since THOTA won the challenge, BpB didnt get medals. (note also, at the time SirSebstar was not apart of THOTA, he joined some time after, so his posts were not representative of the clan)

So how exactly, is this example analogous with your situation?

Edit: and I'm noticing this was already addressed. sorry for posting so quickly on it.

In addition, TSM isnt considered an underdog to THOTA. They are a top 5 clan in our eyes, so to us, we are all on the same page.

jackal31 wrote:

Great-Ollie wrote:......Thirdly do i really need to go through the last Thota BPB thread and show you what inappropriate is? They all got their medals? .......

I just found this.

So Ollie, I want to know exactly where you think THOTA baited, name called, and flamed BpB to the point that rules were broken. In addition, which THOTA members shouldnt have gotten their medals (in your opinion)? I just went and reread the entire challenge thread myself. What I found was a bunch of immaturity from one clan, who posted nearly 90% of the posts there. Needless to say, since THOTA won the challenge, BpB didnt get medals. (note also, at the time SirSebstar was not apart of THOTA, he joined some time after, so his posts were not representative of the clan)

So how exactly, is this example analogous with your situation?

Edit: and I'm noticing this was already addressed. sorry for posting so quickly on it.

In addition, TSM isnt considered an underdog to THOTA. They are a top 5 clan in our eyes, so to us, we are all on the same page.

Sorry dude i was trying to make a point here, I apologize if i offended any Thota members. I know you were not the guilty parties in that thread for the most part. I used another ugly thread as a reference point, that is all. I am sorry if i offended you as that was not my intention.

I may be naive but since when did medals become the reason we play challenges?

lord voldemort wrote:I may be naive but since when did medals become the reason we play challenges?

Move along kid! Reading comprehension must be way to hard for you. You are once again way off base as normal. Does anybody take you serious?

lord voldemort wrote:I may be naive but since when did medals become the reason we play challenges?

since they started giving out medals for challenges

lord voldemort wrote:I may be naive but since when did medals become the reason we play challenges?

Exactly. You got the clan win that's all that should matter.

John Deere wrote:Move along kid! Reading comprehension must be way to hard for you. You are once again way off base as normal. Does anybody take you serious?

That kind of shit-talking is what got you in trouble in the first place. Maybe you should quit being such an asshole and figure out there's more to life than trash talking a web game.

AgentSmith88 wrote:

lord voldemort wrote:I may be naive but since when did medals become the reason we play challenges?

Exactly. You got the clan win that's all that should matter.

John Deere wrote:Move along kid! Reading comprehension must be way to hard for you. You are once again way off base as normal. Does anybody take you serious?

That kind of shit-talking is what got you in trouble in the first place. Maybe you should quit being such an asshole and figure out there's more to life than trash talking a web game.

Or just maybe he should learn to comprehend things before he comes into a thread talking trash about something that has been explained at least 10 times. IF HE WOULD HAVE READ THESE POST HE WOULDNT HAVE MADE SUCH AN IGNORANT COMMENT! Have a good day

What I love about this thread is that in the OP, GO asks for "fact-based opinions"... and then individuals who leave their opinions get ridiculed.

By the way... I'm not sure I understand a "fact-based opinion"... something can either be a fact, or an opinion. Correct?

jj3044 wrote:What I love about this thread is that in the OP, GO asks for "fact-based opinions"... and then individuals who leave their opinions get ridiculed.

By the way... I'm not sure I understand a "fact-based opinion"... something can either be a fact, or an opinion. Correct?

Yup, but based on facts you can develop an opinion. In this case, I take the facts: medals add nothing to the playing of the game, I am here to have fun playing the game, people who medal obsess are more likely to cause strife (based on facts: pride causes strife, obsession is a form of pride), my fact based opinion is: I don't really care about medals, and if it causes the game to be less fun, they could be deleted from the site and I would be fine with that. I think that's more what they are looking for.

I for one know how I am supposed to act as a community member and a clan leader. Sometimes things can get hairy, but it is my responsibility to not let that get the best of me. If for some reason I do not have my self control, then I'm willing to suffer the consequences.

malevolous wrote:medals add nothing to the playing of the game

Of course not, but some people care about medals, some about rank, some about ratings, some just the social aspect of being able to speak their piece (and show us how smart they are, right ljex?). Ask the crowd which is more important and you will get many varied responses including "opinions of facts". Many people would get bored with CC if it was nothing but games; there needs to be options for people to spend their time here or they will find other ways to spend their time and would likely not be renewing their account.

Personally I couldn't care less about medals, but ratings are important to me. Many will berate me for caring about something they think is broken or worthless or silly or whatever, but thankfully we are allowed to decide for ourselves what we care about.

P.S. If [player]jimboy[/player] wants to remove the "Response: asshole doesn't like losing or being told "greetings" or "good game"" from his ratings left page all he has to do is withdraw his poor-sportsmanship rating

tec805 wrote:

malevolous wrote:medals add nothing to the playing of the game

Of course not, but some people care about medals, some about rank, some about ratings, some just the social aspect of being able to speak their piece (and show us how smart they are, right ljex?). Ask the crowd which is more important and you will get many varied responses including "opinions of facts". Many people would get bored with CC if it was nothing but games; there needs to be options for people to spend their time here or they will find other ways to spend their time and would likely not be renewing their account.

Personally I couldn't care less about medals, but ratings are important to me. Many will berate me for caring about something they think is broken or worthless or silly or whatever, but thankfully we are allowed to decide for ourselves what we care about.

P.S. If [player]jimboy[/player] wants to remove the "Response: asshole doesn't like losing or being told "greetings" or "good game"" from his ratings left page all he has to do is withdraw his poor-sportsmanship rating

Of course people care about differnt things, thats what makes it a fact based OPINION, instead of just "fact." I'm just saying, all the crap that was given LOVO for sharing his fact based opinion was unneccessary. All I was doing is showing that his opinion was valid to be shared.

IMHO

A warning was issued, it was heeded and everyone behaved, it should have stopped there. Denying medals is just petty.

Not all the 5 guys who have been medal stripped care about medals, in fact grifftron is the guy who really values medals, that s why he might have a little over reacted in here.
I don't really get all this "I don't care about medals"' hype, as if it was shamefull to try getting medal acheivements.
Ask an olympic athlete, winning a medal is the concretization of their efforts and it is important to them. any sports/competition gives a prize in shape of a cup or plate to its winner.
Also ollie or JD are clan leaders and people might check their wall to see the detail of their clan wins, and not beleive their clan won vs IA.. which is the best clan the pack has won so far.
Anyway, if people care about medals and you don't, deal with it at stop being condescendant. If this has been put in place it's also to hook up players who consider it as a full part of the game.
We are discussing about a game, so actually nothing in this forum is important, it still brings passionate debates.

Ok a couple things here. 1. I think the mods needed to initiate this rule into threads because after all this is a public site and some things are better seen, and said in private. 2. Our medals getting revoked is not what really bothered me, it was the way it was initiated that did. Lack of communication, lack of clarity on the rules, etc. 3. I got way out of hand and should have slept on it before i started all of this. 4. I think this can all be avoided in the future if there was better written rules, and more communication between mods and clan members. 5. The mods need to be more open to the fact that they may have been wrong in some aspects of this case, and maybe publically admit fault, I think it would go a long way into improving the perception of some of the mods by clan members if we knew they can admit fault. 6. Mods have a tough job, so maybe we need to cut them a little slack in some cases. Peace everyone!

betiko wrote: Anyway, if people care about medals and you don't, deal with it at stop being condescendant. If this has been put in place it's also to hook up players who consider it as a full part of the game.

Ironically, we're not trying to be condescending, but just posting our opinions, as invited to in the OP, and I was just responding to people being condescending to LOVO for his post. Isn't it weird how in standing up against condescension it comes off as condescending? No offense was intended, just trying to stand up for equal rights. I hope that clears up any misunderstandings.

malevolous wrote: I hope that clears up any misunderstandings.

Any time anyone opens their mouth there are going to be misunderstandings. Look at the classic he-said/she-heard thing, people will hear what they want especially if it allows them to call someone else an asshole or tell them they are stupid. Reminds me of why I'm not married anymore

malevolous wrote:

betiko wrote: Anyway, if people care about medals and you don't, deal with it at stop being condescendant. If this has been put in place it's also to hook up players who consider it as a full part of the game.

Ironically, we're not trying to be condescending, but just posting our opinions, as invited to in the OP, and I was just responding to people being condescending to LOVO for his post. Isn't it weird how in standing up against condescension it comes off as condescending? No offense was intended, just trying to stand up for equal rights. I hope that clears up any misunderstandings.

was not refering to you in particular, just that on this site each time I see someone talk about a medal issue there are 3-4 guys that come up with a "who cares about medals?/ so since when are we playing for medals?" ect. obviously some people do, and some others find it greedy or stupid.
I personally think that medals are made to force you explore as many type of CC games as possible with this little incentive and I see nothing wrong about it. In fact I don't understand how some with a lot of game experience can stick to only one gametype/map and settings without ever trying other stuff, or barely.

I'm still young, but one thing I've learned in life: no matter what anyone says, take it with a grain of salt. Saves the hassle later, and keeps the fools at rest.