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I respect that you're double checking these things, but how does this prove that I didn't get the objective first? I was keeping pretty good track of my progress and I'm certainly not trying to pull a fast one.Pandemonium wrote:Game 9401797
We had a false bonus claim here by jrbedwell, because dementia13 got the bonus first - see low below:
2011-07-14 14:32:53 - Game has been initialized
2011-07-16 14:20:52 - Incrementing game to round 2
2011-07-18 17:45:32 - Incrementing game to round 3
2011-07-21 20:00:15 - Incrementing game to round 4
2011-07-25 03:19:02 - Incrementing game to round 5
2011-07-26 14:19:12 - dementia13 assaulted Mare Serenitatis from Russia Landing Site RU2 and conquered it from neutral player MARE +1
2011-07-26 21:01:23 - Incrementing game to round 6
2011-07-29 05:13:24 - Justin3f assaulted Mare Serenitatis from Cassini and conquered it from dementia13 MARE 0
2011-07-29 13:11:43 - dementia13 assaulted Mare Serenitatis from Russia Landing Site RU2 and conquered it from Justin3f MARE +1
2011-07-29 13:11:58 - dementia13 assaulted Mare Vaporum from Mare Serenitatis and conquered it from neutral player MARE +2
2011-07-30 07:05:38 - Incrementing game to round 7
2011-08-01 16:36:00 - Incrementing game to round 8
2011-08-03 21:45:38 - dementia13 assaulted Mare Tranquillitatis from Mare Serenitatis and conquered it from jrbedwell MARE +3
2011-08-04 00:16:10 - Incrementing game to round 9
2011-08-04 16:13:54 - JJ41375 assaulted Mare Tranquillitatis from Mare Fecunditas and conquered it from dementia13 MARE +2
2011-08-07 06:03:03 - Incrementing game to round 10
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We also had false bonus claim in Game 9401795 by Squishyg - because SEVERS got there first - see log below:
2011-07-17 00:02:55 - Game has been initialized
2011-07-20 13:25:24 - Incrementing game to round 2
2011-07-23 04:14:59 - severs assaulted Mare Fecunditas from USA Landing Site US2 and conquered it from neutral player
2011-07-26 02:35:16 - Incrementing game to round 4
2011-07-27 07:05:16 - severs assaulted Mare Spumans from Mare Fecunditas and conquered it from neutral player
2011-07-28 04:19:23 - Incrementing game to round 5
2011-07-29 23:49:04 - Incrementing game to round 6
2011-07-31 21:36:24 - Incrementing game to round 7
2011-08-02 17:01:42 - Incrementing game to round 8
PS - It took time to re-check these logs and find these false claims, but people seem uninterested about these bonuses and stuff - Dukasaur, you'll have to make sure everyone understands the rules and bonuses for next tournies...
PPS - See Mr. Severs, I don't hate you, I got you a bonus, even when you tagged me as "Complainer, Vindictive"![]()

Robinette wrote:Depends on what metric you use...Kaskavel wrote:Seriously. Who is the female conqueror of CC?
The coolest is squishyg
I think you might be focusing on the use of "false claim", which isn't really appropriate since these are fog games. I re-checked our game when I read this, and someone else did have the bonus before I did. It's only fair that they get the points for that, particularly when there is no way to tell who is holding what territories.squishyg wrote: I respect that you're double checking these things, but how does this prove that I didn't get the objective first? I was keeping pretty good track of my progress and I'm certainly not trying to pull a fast one.
Yeah, I agree. I'm pretty sure that when Pandemonium said false, there weren't any pejorative connotations to it. It's just a false claim in the same sense that a medical test might return a false positive, it's not an accusation of anything.jrbedwell wrote:I think you might be focusing on the use of "false claim", which isn't really appropriate since these are fog games. I re-checked our game when I read this, and someone else did have the bonus before I did. It's only fair that they get the points for that, particularly when there is no way to tell who is holding what territories.squishyg wrote: I respect that you're double checking these things, but how does this prove that I didn't get the objective first? I was keeping pretty good track of my progress and I'm certainly not trying to pull a fast one.
Looks like we're losing the good Marechal.2011-09-14 10:41:46 - Marechal joffre: kill me all, good luck, i leave france i go to madagascar and there is no internet, good bye and sorry
Yes, when I said false I didn't mean anything offensiveDukasaur wrote:Yeah, I agree. I'm pretty sure that when Pandemonium said false, there weren't any pejorative connotations to it. It's just a false claim in the same sense that a medical test might return a false positive, it's not an accusation of anything.jrbedwell wrote:I think you might be focusing on the use of "false claim", which isn't really appropriate since these are fog games. I re-checked our game when I read this, and someone else did have the bonus before I did. It's only fair that they get the points for that, particularly when there is no way to tell who is holding what territories.squishyg wrote: I respect that you're double checking these things, but how does this prove that I didn't get the objective first? I was keeping pretty good track of my progress and I'm certainly not trying to pull a fast one.

That was September 13th. Only one of many PMs I've exchanged with dexterdexter. The original tourney specs say that you were supposed to reserve 3 slots for this tournament. Later we relented and started working with players who had only two slots reserved for it, but you have zero reserved. Every time I look you've joined another non-tourney game.dexterdexter wrote:sorry for not having an available slot. I will have one available for the last invite in a few days though
I wasn't going to take offense, but then you went and called me "Mr."Pandemonium wrote:Yes, when I said false I didn't mean anything offensiveDukasaur wrote:Yeah, I agree. I'm pretty sure that when Pandemonium said false, there weren't any pejorative connotations to it. It's just a false claim in the same sense that a medical test might return a false positive, it's not an accusation of anything.jrbedwell wrote:I think you might be focusing on the use of "false claim", which isn't really appropriate since these are fog games. I re-checked our game when I read this, and someone else did have the bonus before I did. It's only fair that they get the points for that, particularly when there is no way to tell who is holding what territories.squishyg wrote: I respect that you're double checking these things, but how does this prove that I didn't get the objective first? I was keeping pretty good track of my progress and I'm certainly not trying to pull a fast one.![]()
I just meant 'not correct' or that someone claimed the bonus and someone else had the bonus before him but said nothing (If you ask me this should be punishable, it's like not calling the BINGO first and some else calls it 2-3 numbers after you, but we don't have that rule here - maybe next tournie).
I check the logs manually and open 2 or 3 .txt docs and make counters line by line - it's pretty exhausting job for some maps (like Lunar War) but I want everything to be fair and correct
Mr. squishyg, I only post the log of the bonus-winner, you can check the log manually and compare it to your achievement and you will see that you didn't own the bonus first.

Robinette wrote:Depends on what metric you use...Kaskavel wrote:Seriously. Who is the female conqueror of CC?
The coolest is squishyg
I think she means she prefers to be called Mrs. Squishyg...Pandemonium wrote:Yeah well, I'm glad we understand each other
English is not my native language, and sometimes the things I translate in my head don't turn out to have the exact same meaning in English
Anyway, Mr. Squishyg, you're 2-3 years older then meand you have above 30, so I think it's only natural and respectful to call you Mr. Squishyg
It's all cool dude
fixed game linktorres44cm wrote:Dukasaur, In game Game 9727850, I held the Lima and Pernambuco Bonus 3 rounds, from round 5 onward and its currently round 9.
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Looks good, torres my only surviving team-mate...Dukasaur wrote:fixed game linktorres44cm wrote:Dukasaur, In game Game 9727850, I held the Lima and Pernambuco Bonus 3 rounds, from round 5 onward and its currently round 9.
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Sorry man...Pandemonium wrote:Torres killed my chance of winning this tournie, wiping me off first on Australia - now I have 0 points on Australia & S. America...
I held Pernambuco since round 3, and no one held the Lima/Pernambuco bonus before me, Thx.Dukasaur wrote:Looks good, torres my only surviving team-mate...Dukasaur wrote:fixed game linktorres44cm wrote:Dukasaur, In game Game 9727850, I held the Lima and Pernambuco Bonus 3 rounds, from round 5 onward and its currently round 9.
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4 people still alive in game, if nobody held it before you (and that seems unlikely) you qualify for 10 bonus points.