Conquer Club

ParadiceCity9 wrote:I just realized that on the map it says imperial japan and in the chart is says imperial navy so...ya...

Samus wrote:CCC does have a great bonus distribution, but it doesn't have to be exactly 2 of each. Especially any bonus 6 or greater signifies a region that is too difficult for someone to expect to take and hold in most circumstances. They have their place, but you don't need to make sure you have enough of them by any means.

I see different numbers than you have on your new table. For instance, East Indies has 7 territories now, but your table reads 3 borders and attack routes while it now only has 2. Connecting Timor with IJN Kaga would correct this.

I see Papua as having 6 territories and 6 attacking territories, your table reads 5 and 8 now. The fact that you added a territory in East Indies leads me to think you meant to do something here, I'm just not sure what.

I count 6 attacking territories for N. New Guinea as well, but this winds up effecting nothing.

I only count 5 attacking territories for W. Australia (you have 6) which brings it to 5.50. Considering W. Australia can take Karumba to reduce 5 borders into 4, I'm thinking it should be +5.

The new number I get for Solomons is 4.50, but I think it was fine as it was with 3 borders worth +4.

So if we remove the Bouganville-IJN Shokaku attack route and replace the missing East Indies attack route, I get:

Allied Navy: 2.17 (2)
N. New Guinea: 3.25 (3)
East Indies: 3.17 (3)
Bismarks: 4.17 (4)
Solomons: 3.75 (4)
Papua: 4.50 (5)
New Guinea: 4.58 (5)
E. Australia: 5.08 (5)
W. Australia: 5.50 (5)
Imperial Navy: 6.00 (6)

The only thing I can think needs changing about this new distribution is doing something to make either Papua or New Guinea easier to hold, so that you would have three +4s and three +5s. I don't want to remove the Merauke-Mullingimbi attack route because without it that island is very cut off from the SW corner of the map. Not sure what else can be done.


Also, the text looks different in this update. Perhaps not bold anymore? I don't think it looks quite as good on the map, and it looks much worse in the legend.

Guiscard wrote:

DiM wrote:2. do something about the corners of the map. there's white showing behind the round corner. make the white transparent.

The white will be transparent when playing. The maps are presented on a white background (just checked my games).

DiM wrote:perfect then just blend the legend icons

DiM wrote:yup the legend is better. other than that i have no other comments. i'm not particularly fond of this map. maybe it's the abundance of sea routes or the itsy bitsy tiny territories, or maybe both. coral coast is much much better.

all i can comment is the gfx aspect.
2 more things.
* put a dot after Is.
*the rivers look somewhat odd because they are light blue and the ocean is greenish-something. making the ocean blue will hurt the eyes but maybe you could add some of that greenish thing to the rivers. not too much because they'll look bad but just enough to make them blend.

haoala wrote:i think this map is exciting, but some countries are hard to see, like tulagi. also it might be confusing especially the japanese continent

luckiekevin wrote:Hate to be a font nazi but I think the territory font can be better. It's a bit of a pixly font and something warmer could give the map a better look.

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onbekende wrote:Can you perhaps change the bonus legend fitting the left to right postion of continents (Like I will use)

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1) East Indies:
Move name "Flores" to the rightm the top line to the left.
Army Shade of Timor to the left a bit.
2) New Guinea:
Good
3) W. Australia:
Switch "Mullingimbi" and its army shade, making the name go over the sea routes.
4) N. New Guinea:
Good
5) Papua:
Good
6) Imperial Japan:
Kill the link Ternati-Turk.
7) Allied Navy:
Good
The Bismarcks:
Move "Kavieng" and army shade together to the left.
9) Solomons:
Good
10) E. Ausrtralia:
Switch "Bamaga" and army shade of place and see how they fit well against new position of "Mullingimbi"
these are my suggestionsm do with them as you see fit.

Samus wrote:I think the regions/borders/connections are mostly worked out. I only have two concerns right now.

First, Molucca and Celebes both connect to the same territory. Being able to take a territory to reduce 2 borders into one is certainly nothing new, but in this case it's 3 borders to 2 borders in what is probably already the most "tucked away" region on the map. I think I would prefer a Timor-IJN Kaga connection, or something else maybe.

Second, I'm sort of bothered by how Aitape and Madang are now sort of off on their own only connecting to one territory. I think if you modified the rivers so that Aitape was the "exposed" territory rather than Hollandia, that would fix this.

onbekende wrote:my reasoning: you already need men on Ternati and Truk to hold them, thus making it a more difficult continent to hold only adds tension.