The Tick Mafia - JUSTICE PREVAILS!

[Charle]

We really need Bax to give us a full claim and I agree, time is running out.

[Ragian]

@Pix, fair enough.

If people really think I'm The Tick, they should not waste time protecting me. Anyone with any incling of the series would know that The Tick is a selfless helper. The Tick needs people to save, so with no townies, no Tick. Use any protecting abilities elsewhere.

Now, Bax needs to claim, and I feel we should also do some work on who's with whom. It seems quite clear that Swang and Bax have tried to distance themselves from each other. Traffic seems to align himself with Swang a bit, I feel. I was scum with Traffic in the Prison one, and he wasn't immediate in distancing himself from fellow scum halrob when he imploded unaided. So, I would say that if Swang is scum, Traffic is most likely also scum (and vice versa). I couldn't place darin with anyone.

Does anyone have any thoughts on that?

[SoN!c]

@Pix, fair enough.

If people really think I'm The Tick, they should not waste time protecting me. Anyone with any incling of the series would know that The Tick is a selfless helper. The Tick needs people to save, so with no townies, no Tick. Use any protecting abilities elsewhere.

Now, Bax needs to claim, and I feel we should also do some work on who's with whom. It seems quite clear that Swang and Bax have tried to distance themselves from each other. Traffic seems to align himself with Swang a bit, I feel. I was scum with Traffic in the Prison one, and he wasn't immediate in distancing himself from fellow scum halrob when he imploded unaided. So, I would say that if Swang is scum, Traffic is most likely also scum (and vice versa). I couldn't place darin with anyone.

Does anyone have any thoughts on that?

Yes i get the "Swang and Bax have tried to distance themselves from each other" feel. But Bax is not in the game and is now voting for Swang.

Also we know Swang gets a "red tape" read. Swang says it's because he is the mayor.

So he confirms "red tape" is nothing about tape but about the idiom referring to bureaucracy hindering or preventing action or decision-making.

That is exactly the role the mayor plays in the Tick. Because the mayor is not helping town or the scum fighting superheroes at all:

Spoiler

[url]https://the-tick-animated.fandom.com/wiki/Mayor_Blank[/url]

just 3 buts on this:

But this would not be a "Town role" i'd say, more 3p. The mayor in The Tick does not help fighting crime in no way. So how can this character be town that needs to find scum?

But "hindering or preventing action" is according to mafia wiki a "delayer"?. So that would be the special powers applying to the mayor character but: Maxleod was the town's delayer:

Maxleod / "Captain Mucilage" (Citizen, Delayer): Modkilled D2

So Swang reads 3p - not town to me.

Also Swang quotes EW that i could be the godfather but that was after EW wanted a written confirmation from me and Pixar. So yes im pretty sure EW visited Pix on N1 and me on N2. For more reasons too.

Re: The Tick Mafia - D3
Postby Extreme Ways on Sat Sep 30, 2023 10:52 pm
Before the day ends, can we get a quick written confirmation of Sonic and Pixar that they were roleblocked by Strike? Strike's targets make sense for the roleblocking given that they were at the time suspicious, but I dont want Strike to suddenly turn out to be someone else because this wasnt confirmed.

I answered: Nope! (just because i could not do this as i have no powers) and only then he replied with godfather thingie.

One of EW's last important posts was:
I'm the towniest townie that ever towned. I guess it's more of my playstyle to figure out who I think is town instead of figuring out who is not town. I also wouldnt mind if our vigi killed Sonic due to a nightly accident, despite Sonic being town. agree on Strike, it could very well be a scum-aligned role (and this is more logical, too) but for being town-aligned his night targets made sense.

(this is on page 43)

So in short: Swang i think you are 3p and not town. Because of the "red tape" flavor :

A) which you confirmed was true
B) you confirmed also the red tape meaning of "hindering / delaying buraucracy"
C) you claim to be Mayor Banks; if you would look up his Alignment in the tickipedia you will notice "Neutral"

[SoN!c]

all i will say is that no one is out of suspicion of being scum ,,i have not done any night actions nor had any on me but if you do i will give you a static bang.... my tuppence worth

So your soft claiming TOWN character "Carpeted Man"?

Spoiler

[url]https://the-tick-animated.fandom.com/wiki/Carpeted_Man[/url]

[SoN!c]

Vote Count:

• General Bax : 5 (PepeAtila, SoN!c, Charle, *Pixar*, traffic133)
  swang918 : 1 (General Bax)
  
  No Vote : 5 (Darin44, Ragian, strike wolf, swang918, TrafalgarLaw01)

11 Alive, 6 votes needed to lynch

5 players voting for BAX and these are all 5 townies IF traffic133 is Carpeted Man

Bax is voting Swang because if he is mafia he knows that will devide town.

Vote Bax

[Ragian]

We know that Degaston has provided scum with safe claims for faking purposes, so him alluding to that character means nothing to me. While Bax might be scum, I want more from Traffic and Darin before we close the lid on another day with no real info.

Don't hammer Bax.

@Pepe, if Bax is hammered, you might need to get your gun out. Take a shot at one of the unknowns that don't contribute much. You might hit scum and they're dead weight anyway info-wise.

[SoN!c]

We know that Degaston has provided scum with safe claims for faking purposes, so him alluding to that character means nothing to me. While Bax might be scum, I want more from Traffic and Darin before we close the lid on another day with no real info.

Don't hammer Bax.

@Pepe, if Bax is hammered, you might need to get your gun out. Take a shot at one of the unknowns that don't contribute much. You might hit scum and they're dead weight anyway info-wise.

unvote BAX

[Ragian]

Thanks.

[degaston]

Vote Count:

• General Bax : 3 (Charle, *Pixar*, traffic133)
  swang918 : 1 (General Bax)
  traffic133 : 1 (strike wolf)
  
  No Vote : 6 (Darin44, PepeAtila, Ragian, SoN!c, swang918, TrafalgarLaw01)

11 Alive, 6 votes needed to lynch

[traffic133]

im not aligning myself with anyone and just because i was scum like you last one i play dont make me scum maybe your deflecting cos you got a repeat dose of scum

[SoN!c]

im not aligning myself with anyone and just because i was scum like you last one i play dont make me scum maybe your deflecting cos you got a repeat dose of scum

But are you Carpeted Man?

[traffic133]

ragian,,,

im not aligning myself with anyone and just because i was scum like you last one i play dont make me scum maybe your deflecting cos you got a repeat dose of scum

[traffic133]

i am nothing without my suit

[Ragian]

Vote traffic

I never said that you willingly aligned yourself with someone. I just gave you my take on it. Throwing shade at me as a defence is bad, however. I am ironclad in this game, my friend. You've been asked several times to elaborate on your breadcrumbs, and now I think there should be pressure on you until you do.

[TrafalgarLaw01]

Seems Traffic its indeed 3rd party, Bax hasnt say anything back and we are still waiting for some Darin claim.

FP by Rag

[Ragian]

It's also a mad piece of disinformation to say that I called you scum because you were scum in the prison game. I did not. I compared your "play" here to then.

[SoN!c]

I think Traffic is town guys, he is softclaiming it and the entire game his role playing fits Carpeted Man (if that is what he did, role playing):

"A man who lives for superheroism, he is very self-doubtful and unconfident, claiming that he is nothing without his suit."

[swang918]

Seems Traffic its indeed 3rd party, Bax hasnt say anything back and we are still waiting for some Darin claim.

FP by Rag

I don't see that anyone is saying Traffic is 3p. but if he is actually 3p then we shouldn't lynch. need to hit scum today.

[SoN!c]

Seems Traffic its indeed 3rd party, Bax hasnt say anything back and we are still waiting for some Darin claim.

FP by Rag

I don't see that anyone is saying Traffic is 3p. but if he is actually 3p then we shouldn't lynch. need to hit scum today.

No we were saying you are 3p because of the Red Tape outcome. I think Traf mixed the names of you and Traffic (or he said it because Traffic answered in apparent riddles but it's a town soft claim for sure in my eyes).

So what your realy saying is we should not lynch you today?: "is actually 3p then we shouldn't lynch. need to hit scum today."

[TrafalgarLaw01]

Seems Traffic its indeed 3rd party, Bax hasnt say anything back and we are still waiting for some Darin claim.

FP by Rag

I don't see that anyone is saying Traffic is 3p. but if he is actually 3p then we shouldn't lynch. need to hit scum today.

Sorry I got confused. I thought mayor was 3rd party, so you. Traffic, seems he made a soft claim, but as I don't have any idea on the Tick i don't know.

However I agree we need to lynch a scum this time.

[strike wolf]

He definitely seems to be softclaiming the Carpeted Man as has been pointed out. He also seems to be hinting at a passive power that effects those visiting him. Traffic, can you elaborate on what happens if someone visits you?

[SoN!c]

He definitely seems to be softclaiming the Carpeted Man as has been pointed out. He also seems to be hinting at a passive power that effects those visiting him. Traffic, can you elaborate on what happens if someone visits you?

I was waiting on the first player that would ask this question because that would have to be a scummy. And it's you.

If the character is correct (Carpeted man) then he is town and he will fry the scum that visits him with electric charges saying "gotcha".

If the character is not correct then he would not be town and thus mafia. But then you would know this (not being the correct character) and would not need to ask for it what would happen if you visit him.

Why would you wanna visit a townie during the night? Only mafia would be interested to find out what would happen then.

[Ragian]

I think Traffic is town guys, he is softclaiming it and the entire game his role playing fits Carpeted Man (if that is what he did, role playing):

"A man who lives for superheroism, he is very self-doubtful and unconfident, claiming that he is nothing without his suit."

I'm going to repeat the same fact that Degaston provided scum with fake claims. Traffic hinting that he's that carpet dude (and then Sonic doing Traffic's work for him ) proves nothing.

[strike wolf]

He definitely seems to be softclaiming the Carpeted Man as has been pointed out. He also seems to be hinting at a passive power that effects those visiting him. Traffic, can you elaborate on what happens if someone visits you?

I was waiting on the first player that would ask this question because that would have to be a scummy. And it's you.

If the character is correct (Carpeted man) then he is town and he will fry the scum that visits him with electric charges saying "gotcha".

If the character is not correct then he would not be town and thus mafia. But then you would know this (not being the correct character) and would not need to ask for it what would happen if you visit him.

Why would you wanna visit a townie during the night? Only mafia would be interested to find out what would happen then.

I ask because depending on the effect of visiting him, it could be a verifiable role and potentially alignment indicative. IF it's a verifiable role then we might be able to eliminate a player from suspicion increasing our odds at finding scum.

Why are you so willing to take Swang and Traffics claims at face value? Isn't that similar to the lack of curiosity that you accused EW of yesterday?

[SoN!c]

He definitely seems to be softclaiming the Carpeted Man as has been pointed out. He also seems to be hinting at a passive power that effects those visiting him. Traffic, can you elaborate on what happens if someone visits you?

I was waiting on the first player that would ask this question because that would have to be a scummy. And it's you.

If the character is correct (Carpeted man) then he is town and he will fry the scum that visits him with electric charges saying "gotcha".

If the character is not correct then he would not be town and thus mafia. But then you would know this (not being the correct character) and would not need to ask for it what would happen if you visit him.

Why would you wanna visit a townie during the night? Only mafia would be interested to find out what would happen then.

I ask because depending on the effect of visiting him, it could be a verifiable role and potentially alignment indicative. IF it's a verifiable role then we might be able to eliminate a player from suspicion increasing our odds at finding scum.

Why are you so willing to take Swang and Traffics claims at face value? Isn't that similar to the lack of curiosity that you accused EW of yesterday?

Im waiting on Bax? And im not "willing on Swangs claim". Not at all; In fact i posted and explained why he has to be 3p. He ignored answering to that so yes 3p. And on Traffic it's pretty clear he won't say much more.

So spinning a trap in the meantime seemed a good idea. The entire idea of having a "Carpeted man booby-trap" is that you can't say it's a booby-trap because then nobody would step on it.. So asking in public to explain how the booby-trap works is a question a townie would not pose because a townie would hope a scummy would step on it by not knowing...

But yes Traffic should be a verifiable role. But you would only be able to verify it by visiting him during the night. Can't see any other way?
By itself it is also a powerful defence story for a scummy. That brings me back to what Ragian said about Degaston having scum provided with safe claims for faking purposes.

Carpeted Man would be a perfect safe claim.

all i will say is that no one is out of suspicion of being scum ,,i have not done any night actions nor had any on me but if you do i will give you a static bang

Traffic says "i have not done any night actions nor had any on me but if you do i will give you a static bang" like this "static bang" applies to town and scum alike.


So That is not "lack of curiosity" that is having found out everything i wanted to know for now while waiting on Bax :

Swang being the mayor 3p with possible delaying powers
Traffic soft claiming Carpeted Man in a scummy way just like Ragian said ("Degaston provided scum with safe claims for faking purposes")


PS: Bax is active enough to vote and perform night actions but he goes total silent when it was L-2 (even L-1) and should claim?.