Conquer Club

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moz976 wrote:I also thought it was strange that treistan made the mistake of not bolding his vote. Was that on purpose and when he got called on it he came back and fixed it?

I don't suspect trestain for the messed up bolding, that seems like an honest mistake. I suspect him because he didn't post at all during the day, until right at the end, he shows up, votes RK and leaves again. If there are two mafias left then he'd be my suspect for an opposing mafia group.

So if there are two mafia groups, why would they want to kill each other?

Im back, friends... you can now see my profile and check Brazil flag is back

I was intending to return posting since yesterday afternoon at least, but the trip delayed due to some road problems, and I arrived with just 2 hours to rest before going to work. So, now I returned from my job, but of course I dont know yet what happened, and will probably need 2 real days to read all. Im still busy after returning from the beach.

About this accusation, this is simply stupid. Why do you really think there are 8 mafia members? The mafia game I played before had 3 mafia to 12 people, and it was easy, because after just 2 days of wrong lynchs, the mafia had 3 against 4 people. Now, with 25 people, 8 mafia would be too much. Ok, if 2 mafia teams, they could kill each other, but townies also waste whole days with wrong lynchs... even a vigilante can kill townies, too... So I dont imagine mafia has 8 members... would be too much.

On other hand, what could a lonely mafia do now (although Im not sure about it, it looks like the most probable)? If we have 2 exposed docs like you said (I need to check last pages), we just need the docs to protect each other to win... Should we consider this idea? Maybe someone had this idea before, and wasted an attack, blocked by doc?

One more thing: if you guys know my way as clan leader and foundry member, you know I dont skip my responsibilities. If I had a night role, I would surely ask for a replacement. I just went to a trip without a replacement because Im a vanilla townie, and in this case I thought my vote wouldnt make a great difference.

Thats is for now, I will post more when I read some of the pages I have missed.

wicked wrote:So if there are two mafia groups, why would they want to kill each other?

Well I would guess that they wouldn't know who is in the other mafia group so as long as it wasn't one of their group it really wouldn't matter to them.

Marvaddin wrote:If I had a night role, I would surely ask for a replacement. I just went to a trip without a replacement because Im a vanilla townie, and in this case I thought my vote wouldnt make a great difference.

Not necessarily.... when you left RK was still alive, so no need for a replacement at that time.

moz976 wrote:Well I would guess that they wouldn't know who is in the other mafia group so as long as it wasn't one of their group it really wouldn't matter to them.

Oh. duh! So like when there was a mafia sympathizer role in a previous game, the mafia didn't know and could've lynched that pro-mafia role. So is their win condition to take out all townies or take out the other mafia or what? Doesn't seem fair we have to fight two mafia groups, perhaps why we have so many power roles? So if their WC is to just take each other out, we can just duck and wait? lol

There has to be a catch...
Let's look at this for a moment. We have 2 mafia groups taking each other out. So far, it almost looks like we are stumbling on mafia killing them by the pair. We have day cops, night cops, doctors, mayors, and whatever the hell else we have to uncover. There has GOT to be a catch.

correction Houssam, we have people CLAIMING those roles. Not all have been proven.

wicked wrote:correction Houssam, we have people CLAIMING those roles. Not all have been proven.

true... but with so many mafia already gone, I have to assume there aren't so many left.. so most of those claims are probably accurate, right?

It's just so confusing - never played against TWO mafias, if that is the case. And never had so many possible power roles outted and still around, so it always makes ya wonder if they really are telling the truth. Weird game!!! So we're thinking there's only a couple mafia left?

well we killed like 5 - so I am thinking either one or 3 left. (3+3 or 4+4)

Well I am going to vote houssam

I think to me he seems the most scummy.

As I have already stated I didn't like how he came in after the fact and threw down a vote.
I also don't like that he was so against andy when I could see from the clues that were left where andy was coming from.

I'm not ready for a lynch yet since we have plenty of time I just want to put some pressure out there to see what comes out.

moz976 wrote:Well I am going to vote houssam
I'm not ready for a lynch yet since we have plenty of time I just want to put some pressure out there to see what comes out.

We already went over this. The after-deadline vote was because I had just finished reading Sully's posting saying there are only a few minutes till the deadline - I did not know if I had the time to go back and see when the deadline was exactly. I did not know if I had the time to go back and see if we already had the required number of votes or not (which we had) since an after-lynch vote is just as scummy as an after-deadline vote.

As for Andy, please... if whatever the hell he was saying did not sound suspicious, then I don't know what does! Even he himself said I know this sounds very suspicious.

oh and by the way

vote mov there.. OMGUS vote to complete the collection!

Juuuust kidding.. unvote

err.. I mean unvote

who is mov?

Well in that post sully says that we already have the required number to lynch so you should have known that the vote didn't matter.

We need to get some more people talking in here. we seem to be going no where.

moz976 wrote: the vote didn't matter.

We need to get some more people talking in here. we seem to be going no where.

I am sorry... but we seem to be doing pretty darn well from where I am standing.. that is of course, unless we have 2 different perspectives!

I agree, we need to get people talking, but we really need not get any more claims - by the look of it, our "forces" are working quietly in our favor, let's keep it that way.

now be a doll and take that vote off, you know it's crap! and I hate being on the vote count list - I feel so expoooosed!!

moz976 wrote:Well in that post sully says that we already have the required number to lynch so you should have known that the vote didn't matter.

OK.. On second thought.. this is the exact quote from Sully's post

"In any case, I think we may have reached the majority vote for RK already, but I'm not sure so you may want to switch your vote to avoid a no lynch (deadline should be in a few minutes right?)"


Why are you taking it out of context? Why should we trust you?

seriously this time FOS moz976

There! With numbers and all!!

You accuse me I accuse you I would say we probably at this point in the game have about the same amount of credibility.

That is why I want other people to join in the conversation.

I agree, we need to get people talking, but we really need not get any more claims - by the look of it, our "forces" are working quietly in our favor, let's keep it that way.

When did I say anything about role claiming? I think you will notice from my previous posts that I have always been against role claiming unless it's a last resort.

Anyways lets get some other people's perspective on where we should go from here.

AndyDufresne
Dussle -- Replaced by Hitman079 -- Replaced by geegel -- Replaced by Dussle
Fircoal HoussamTheGreat
Lt.Mustard -- Replaced by Huguenots
Marvaddin
moz976
Nyvek
red bull
sam jam
Senfive
sully800 trestain
vgmmaster wicked

All of the blue are known pro-town people. Let's focus on one of them.

How did vgmmaster become a known townie? Did I miss something?

Fircoal wrote:All of the blue are known pro-town people. Let's focus on one of them.

huh? care to explain?

Fircoal wrote:AndyDufresne
Dussle -- Replaced by Hitman079 -- Replaced by geegel -- Replaced by Dussle
Fircoal HoussamTheGreat
Lt.Mustard -- Replaced by Huguenots
Marvaddin
moz976
Nyvek
red bull
sam jam
Senfive
sully800 trestain
vgmmaster wicked

All of the blue are known pro-town people. Let's focus on one of them.

Just cause you are Blue doesn't mean Crap to me. I am and will forever be watching out for whoever claimed real early on in the game and still hasn't become a casualty. Exp. Fircoal, Red Bull, Sully. All these coinicedences of so many docs at once just seems too convient for me. also I would like to know when VGM was confirmed townie. I must have missed it also. Also how can I look suspicious if I busted RK for being scummy?

I too am suspicious of all the doctors. How many are we up to now? More docs than cops? Were any of them unlocked?

ok it just seems like there's a lot of docs. When I actually went back and checked, there are only 3 claimed docs so far, and one was insane. Sully, was yours unlocked when we lost Puff? And has anyone you protected not survived?

Fircola, I'm still wondering why we should "focus on" the 'blue' people?