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Re: War of the Triple Cult (Day 5)
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:37 am
by Juan_Bottom
Based on the people who voted for Derf, I wonder if Haggis was blocking the wrong cult member... maybe stroop isn't the leader and blue is sacrificing him... it's one or the other, leader, or subordinate....
Re: War of the Triple Cult (Day 5)
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:04 am
by spiesr
Juan_Bottom wrote:Based on the people who voted for Derf, I wonder if Haggis was blocking the wrong cult member... maybe stroop isn't the leader and blue is sacrificing him... it's one or the other, leader, or subordinate....
It is possible that at this point in the game the cult thought their leader was not their most important role. They could have chosen to protect some one else. Like whatever role killed Suspect today. The cult had to know that whatever member the bodyguard took the hit for would probably be lynched the next day. So maybe they protected something with a day action? I don't really see them wasting their bodyguard by having him protect a townie though. So it would seem that stroop is still cult, but possibly not the leader. Even so he should be lynched.
Re: War of the Triple Cult (Day 5)
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:09 am
by Stroop
spiesr wrote:I don't really see them wasting their bodyguard by having him protect a townie though.
Have you considered this?
Stroop wrote:A lot more likely is that Haggis's action wasn't only bodyguarding. I think he had 2 actions, which he both had to use on one target (like a jailkeeper). The other action could be roleblocking or anything else Nate would find a good fit (after the "flip flopper", I have no idea what to expect from a role anymore).
Re: War of the Triple Cult (Day 5)
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:54 pm
by spiesr
Stroop wrote:Have you considered this?
Stroop wrote:A lot more likely is that Haggis's action wasn't only bodyguarding. I think he had 2 actions, which he both had to use on one target (like a jailkeeper). The other action could be roleblocking or anything else Nate would find a good fit (after the "flip flopper", I have no idea what to expect from a role anymore).
Yeah, and it doesn't seem that likely...
Re: War of the Triple Cult (Day 5)
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 5:33 pm
by ace1217
Suspect101 wrote:spiesr wrote:Suspect101 wrote:This means vote stroop, unless you are cult as well spiser.
You seem to be angry/pushy. Understand that since it only take a majority to lynch, that not everyone gets to vote for the person being lynched, and that in this situation there will be at least as many cult members voting for stroop as not. That being said, the case against stroop appears to be a sure thing and I will cast my vote right after my couple questions are answered
Not quite, There are 11 people left. Only 4 are blue cult, if they recruited last night, which I am sure they did. (Ace might have been that target, and have a strong feeling that he killed william.) assuming they did not grab Ace that leaves 5 cult members, and 6 town. Which the town has the majority and the ability to vote lynch. The numbers are not equal, the town still has the upper hand.
I don't think I can be recruited quite honestly and I did not kill william, why would I? Right now not hunting for blue will make me lose and I don't want that.spiesr wrote:You are the blue "cult investigator" right? Did you previously investigate stroop and find him cult? Because I thought that if you tried to kill a townie, something bad would happen. If that is true and you had not previously investigated stroop, why would you take the risk of attempting a kill against an unconfirmed? If you had previously investigated stroop and found him to be cult why wouldn't you have said something? Or I am just misunderstanding what happen if you target a townie?
Becuase of the derf lynch, which I was strongly against for this reason, if I did not kill a blue cult, they would have 5 town would have 6 and with Ace left over. The game is over. Blue cult would win. All they have to say is "Ace vote no lynch and we will make you blue and give you the win". Even if I got a confirmed investigation, there is no majority to get a lynch, which is why as I explained we needed to keep derf alive. So I killed a person who I was 90% sure was cult and now know for sure.
Again, I don't think I can be recruited to blue now, despite the fact that would be good for me.spiesr wrote:We don't need to blow through the day so fast we don't get any discussion...
agree, but since stroop is at L-4, your vote would be appreciated to show your allegiance
Re: War of the Triple Cult (Day 5)
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:19 am
by spiesr
Ace, what exactly do you mean by quoting that post of suspect's? Are you just saying that that is your position on the matter?
Re: War of the Triple Cult (Day 5)
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:41 am
by Stroop
spiesr wrote:Ace, what exactly do you mean by quoting that post of suspect's? Are you just saying that that is your position on the matter?
Look closely. There's a reply in there in Italic

Re: War of the Triple Cult (Day 5)
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:12 pm
by spiesr
Why is no one posting!
Ace, most of us would guess that you can't be recruited from one cult to another. And the person who was mistaken is dead. But, at least you posted at all...
Re: War of the Triple Cult (Day 5)
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:23 pm
by captainwalrus
No one is posting cause stroop is cult, and they are just trying to use thier nubers and our lack of unity to just wait out untill someone else looks scummy. unvote vote stroop for emphasis
Re: War of the Triple Cult (Day 5)
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:30 pm
by Stroop
I'm not posting because I've said enough in my defense. I'm just waiting for a verdict now

Re: War of the Triple Cult (Day 5)
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:31 pm
by Juan_Bottom
Well I haven't been posting because I wanted to hear everyone else speak... Hoping I could figure out who killed our investagator....
And obviously who's blue. I also wasn't online long yesterday.
captainwalrus wrote:No one is posting cause stroop is cult, and they are just trying to use thier nubers and our lack of unity to just wait out untill someone else looks scummy. unvote vote stroop for emphasis
Something weird is going on here, and I want to figure it out.
I think derf was killed by blue cult, so those that voted for him are highly suspect. If I could figure out that he was innocent, the rest of you should have too.
Stroop wrote:I'm not posting because I've said enough in my defense. I'm just waiting for a verdict now

Our investagor believed you are cult. You had been suspected before he tried to catch you. I think that you're cult. I just don't know if Haggas was a throw away or not.
Re: War of the Triple Cult (Day 5)
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:25 pm
by spiesr
Stroop wrote:I'm not posting because I've said enough in my defense. I'm just waiting for a verdict now

Guilty?
Re: War of the Triple Cult (Day 5)
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:00 am
by Stroop
spiesr wrote:Stroop wrote:I'm not posting because I've said enough in my defense. I'm just waiting for a verdict now

Guilty?
Big surprise. You're already voting me and convinced I'm cult and now you won't listen to reason.
Pretty much the same mistake I made on the derf lynch.
Re: War of the Triple Cult (Day 5)
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:23 pm
by ace1217
Vote stroop the evidence against you is rather incriminating, and the fact that the one who brought said evidence against you is now dead doesn't help you much either.
Re: War of the Triple Cult (Day 5)
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:05 pm
by captainwalrus
Is that enough to lynch?
Re: War of the Triple Cult (Day 5)
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:54 pm
by Stroop
captainwalrus wrote:Is that enough to lynch?
I don't think it is. L-1, I believe.
I would claim, but I've already done that.
Re: War of the Triple Cult (Day 5)
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:39 pm
by Juan_Bottom
You still won't get my vote until I get this.
Re: War of the Triple Cult (Day 5)
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:02 pm
by spiesr
Juan_Bottom wrote:You still won't get my vote until I get this.
Until you get what?
Re: War of the Triple Cult (Day 5)
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:07 pm
by Juan_Bottom
spiesr wrote:Juan_Bottom wrote:You still won't get my vote until I get this.
Until you get what?
Based on the last vote, and this latest one... It feels to me like some blue are voting for Stroop, while some are remaining silent. So what I'd like to know is if I'm right; Why would they do that?
Re: War of the Triple Cult (Day 5)
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:17 am
by Stroop
Juan_Bottom wrote:spiesr wrote:Juan_Bottom wrote:You still won't get my vote until I get this.
Until you get what?
Based on the last vote, and this latest one... It feels to me like some blue are voting for Stroop, while some are remaining silent. So what I'd like to know is if I'm right; Why would they do that?
Why would they vote me or why would they remain silent?
Re: War of the Triple Cult (Day 5)
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:49 am
by spiesr
Juan_Bottom wrote:It feels to me like some blue are voting for Stroop,
To look like townies by being on the vote when a blue cult member is lynched.
Juan_Bottom wrote:while some are remaining silent.
To not be noticed.
Re: War of the Triple Cult (Day 5)
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:10 am
by norsemsn1066
Juan_Bottom wrote:spiesr wrote:Juan_Bottom wrote:You still won't get my vote until I get this.
Until you get what?
Based on the last vote, and this latest one... It feels to me like some blue are voting for Stroop, while some are remaining silent. So what I'd like to know is if I'm right; Why would they do that?
It would seem that is what is happening here. The Blue cult is on the verge of winning this thing so they'll railroad threw a lynch on pretty much anyone they want right now. I'd bet the ones argueing loudest for Stroops lynch are blue cult members. That's why my viote is where it is.
Re: War of the Triple Cult (Day 5)
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:31 am
by The Fuzzy Pengui
norsemsn1066 wrote:I'd bet the ones argueing loudest for Stroops lynch are blue cult members. That's why my viote is where it is.
Agreed. That's why I haven't voted for him yet. I fear they may just be throwing the first "unimportant" person they could under the bus to save the rest of their cult and be able to win. I could vote stroop if the rest of the town would like, but I'd rather be 100% sure it's the leader instead of allowing them to recruit somebody else tonight.
Re: War of the Triple Cult (Day 5)
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:59 pm
by spiesr
norsemsn1066 wrote:It would seem that is what is happening here. The Blue cult is on the verge of winning this thing so they'll railroad threw a lynch on pretty much anyone they want right now. I'd bet the ones argueing loudest for Stroops lynch are blue cult members. That's why my viote is where it is.
So you think stroop is town and the blue cult is trying to bandwagon him in order to win today? Why would the cult bodyguard be guarding stroop if he was not cult?
The Fuzzy Pengui wrote:Agreed. That's why I haven't voted for him yet. I fear they may just be throwing the first "unimportant" person they could under the bus to save the rest of their cult and be able to win. I could vote stroop if the rest of the town would like, but I'd rather be 100% sure it's the leader instead of allowing them to recruit somebody else tonight.
So you think that stroop is a cult member but possibly not the leader because the cult is sacrificing him? So you don't actually agree with norse despite that you said you did. How would the cult choose to sacrifice him? Remember that we found him out because suspect tried to kill him last night, but he was saved the the cult bodyguard. It looks to me that the cult was trying to keep him alive.
Re: War of the Triple Cult (Day 5)
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:09 pm
by Stroop
spiesr wrote:norsemsn1066 wrote:It would seem that is what is happening here. The Blue cult is on the verge of winning this thing so they'll railroad threw a lynch on pretty much anyone they want right now. I'd bet the ones argueing loudest for Stroops lynch are blue cult members. That's why my viote is where it is.
So you think stroop is town and the blue cult is trying to bandwagon him in order to win today? Why would the cult bodyguard be guarding stroop if he was not cult?
You keep asking that, but I provided a reasonable explanation.
