Conquer Club

you guys, if i'm dead overnight:

somebody remember to ask wicked about her confidence in making it through the night alive (see above).


please.

This is killing me here. I need to know if he was Mafia or not. I think he is, and he asked Andy to keep us in the dark for awhile. And it's working.

on a lighter note, i derailed the "america" thread in Flame Wars by asking s.xkitten and kramsey06 to go post in it.

Well played.

Power was out all day, so I havent read anything posted yet, but here is a post that I put together over night two.


Vote AK_Iceman.

If Autoload was an insane/paranoid cop, it would have said so. That means that AK must be mafia. I called that one from the beginning. I wasn’t on all of yesterday because I woke up, went to basketball practice then came home and took a five hour nap. I started reading the tread from where I left off, so I didn’t realize that our cop was on the verge of being lynched, otherwise I would have tried to stop it.

Along with AK I believe that Wicked and Rev are mafia. Both of them have been very uncharacteristic in this game.

AK will probably try to claim that he is a miller (an townie who appears guilty), but I have never heard of a miller-mason. If he really is a miller then Wicked would still be next on my list.

If we lynch AK and he really is a Mason then Rev is a confirmed townie. Confirmed townies help the town.

The two most frustrating people in this game are dussle and Supercram. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? I can not even come close to understanding your voting patterns and you have been flip flopping so much that I would not be at all surprised if you were mafia.

I guess I wouldn’t be surprised if anyone was mafia.

In general, he voting patterns of nearly everyone in this game have been erratic. I am especially suspicious of everyone who voted for autoload. I realize that Wicked did not vote for autoload, but I believe she was just trying to distance herself from that group of people who the townies would obviously go after next.



If anything in thsi post has already been talked about sorry, but I havent read anything yet

And I also was thinking, who ever saaid that the mafia infect people?

Didnt it somewhere say that the CHI-2 virus made the infected get violent at night?

I think CHI-2 kills just like mafia would

hind sight is 20/20. what can i say.

I did a long and tedious reread of the first 18 pages. I found posts that stood out as extremely suspicious, and I found posts that made certain people look like townies.

Many people will probably think that I am their enemy, because I found some suspicious posts by them. I do not want that to happen. Know this, JUST BECAUSE I FIND A FEW POSTS THAT LOOK SUSPICIOUS, THAT DOES NOT MEAN I REALLY THINK YOU ARE MAFIA. If you go back and read, I am sure that you could find me suspicious, if only because I didn’t post at all in the last 30 or so pages. But that being said look carefully at the people who I am about to quote, if for no other reason than it keeps you on your toes.

reverend_kyle wrote:So what did people with night roles do then?

why was the thread locked for them?

Tries to imply that he has a night role right off the bat

supercram wrote:someone probably role blocked or protected someone.

doesnt sound like noob, but later plays like one

AK_iceman wrote:I think I can safely reveal that Andy gave me a womans role.

reverend_kyle wrote:HAHAHA! ak is a chick!.

I thought that you already knew that, because you guys are masons?

AK_iceman wrote:I'm from the hospital. A guard, NOT a patient.

It still comes off as strange to me.

wicked wrote:ooh that reminds me.... when I was mafia last time, we were given the option to "link" players right off the bat (first night). Perhaps something like that happened here as well, but backfired? OR perhaps we have totally noob mafia...lol.

AK_iceman wrote:What does "link" players mean?

wicked wrote:all the times I've been mafia, the head mafia was given a special power or role. last time he was given the option to link two players, and that's all it said (I think, someone can go find it if they want, it may have been posted after the fact when we revealed roles). we all speculated on what that meant, but we never ended up using it since we had the game in hand (mwaahaahaa!). So, something like that, or some other special role may have come into play here. I doubt the doc got that lucky!!!

Why bring it up if you dont even know what it means?




This is at autoload... Supercram jumped on auto when he said that he usually starts with a random vote.

supercram wrote:so in those 39 minutes you decided enough people were talking so that you shouldn't call a random vote?

Super was after auto right from the start.

AK_iceman wrote:

AndyDufresne wrote:A few survivors are guarding the local Finn Rock Memorial Hospital, others are garrisoned in the Finn Rock Generator Complex, and still others are stationed at the Finn Rock Broadcast Towers. The town must survive this infectious fallout in Finn Rock.

I am not an actual guard. Just re-using Andys reference to "guarding" the hospital.

IF you had actually gotten a pm saying that you were at the hospital, you would know that no one is a guard.

supercram wrote:so none is technically mafia yet if we follow this logic.

Just because we use the word "infect" instead of mafia, it's the same idea. use some common sense.

wicked wrote:the safety zone camp? huh? is that what your role stated?

Well your role didnt state that, but everyone elses did, so are probably mafia.

supercram wrote:i'd say if y'all wanna kill me then do it. but after you find out it was wasteful, take a closer look at broom.

This is after only one vote, and it is a common mafia tactic to pretend not to care about weather they are alive or not.

Master Bush wrote:

AK_iceman wrote:

supercram wrote:i'd say if y'all wanna kill me then do it. but after you find out it was wasteful, take a closer look at broom.

Thats a common mafia strategy.

I'm pretty sure if you go back and check, you'll see that's a common mafia/townier strategy of who is about to get voted out. You only notice it when it's a mafia member.

It is a common tactic of anyone close to being lynched, that is true. The thing is, cram was not even close to being lynched. In most mafia games, the mafia members care much more about their lives than the townies care about their own. With that in mind, understand that for the mafia to look be perceived as a townie, they must act like a townie. That is to say, they must pretend that they do not care about their life.

I think that cram is definitely only pretending not to care with his "kill me" statement.

wicked wrote:cram, you're new to this game.

No he isn't, dont let him get away with blaming anything on a noob mistake.

Here he says that he plays alot irl.

supercram wrote: i know how this works. once you are on the chopping block, every single thing you say gets used as evidence against you. i play this game a lot IRL. so i can't just keep defending, it even looks guilty.

Master Bush wrote:

wicked wrote:dussle, I'm curious about your location. Care to explain it in a bit more detail?

I agree. I would also like to know what Wicked is wearing right now?

Did your pm not say safety zone either?




First this...

wicked wrote:cram, we can still talk while we're waiting. helps weed out the mafia.

Then this...

wicked wrote:if we cut back on the spam, it'll be easier to find things later on. cram, what's your name and occupation?

Which is it?

wicked wrote:cram, not eveyone receives the same info in their pm's. mafia often have to make up info. so yes, it does matter.

I agree completely. Earlier you claimed to be a vanilla townie, but no ones pm said "vanilla townie," they all said "healthy townie"

wicked wrote:So, on to the story here. Yes, we're married in Finn Rock, involved in a bitter custody battle over MY Inn that I built from the ground up with my bare hands and our child, whom I love and cherish dearly, and she just has no time for (with all her whoring around, which is the reason for the divorce). I knew I was married, but didn't know to whom until "Rachel" revealed herself.

Here you appear to know about the kid, but later you claim not to.

wicked wrote:I'll be happy to answer any other questions you guys may have.

IMO, it appears that wicked is trying to hard to seem cooperative.



CHI-Xi113r just realized, Xill3r = Killer



On page 17, Rev and Wicked both stand up for AK.


**Pg. 18**

cram, stop putting words into my mouth. I did not say I had "damning evidence" against Houssam. I said I would summarize why I thought he was suspisicious... big difference. I don't know that I'll last through the night, I never said I would. I have already stated why I think Houssam looks suspicious, but it's spread out over all these damn pages, so if I do get killed tonight, the info is there.

Yes, Mach, I've been acting "uncharacteristically" from previous games.... duh... in three of those four I was mafia! lol

supercram wrote:hind sight is 20/20. what can i say.

I would have posted that stuff before but I wasnt on at all, and then today my power was out, so I was at a hotel.

I took my turns quickly but then this kept asking me to get off and I was like "I'll fight you for the computer" and she was all like "Lets go then!" and I was like "Come get some!" And she was like "Step up!" And I was like "Bring it, sister!" And she was like "It's already been broughten!"


And then she did that 3 snap thing, and I was like "Oh no you didnt!" and she was like "Oh yes I did!"

And then she kicked my @ss

Mach, i said "go ahead and kill me then" because in IRL games, votes work differently. it's a show of hands. you get only one chance to defend yourself and then everyone raises hands. i hadn't quite adjusted to message board play.

also it's the same thing i say every time, whether i'm mafia or not.

and i'm SORRY about autoload. IC's story was VERY convincing and i CAN'T TELL YOU WHY

but i will say that if IC turns out to be mafia, it casts HEAVY SUSPICION on the theory that mafia are not given enough details to fake things.

this whole, "trying to catch people on the detailsof their PMs" will be rendered useless if it turns out that IC is in fact mafia.

I also had this quote, I think that it is pretty condeming of Kyle, although I am not even sure that he is mafia now

reverend_kyle wrote:Voting autoload is most sane thing to do... if ak was mafia we'd know after autoload was killed, and since he's not lynching him would be awful.

That is retarded, why would you lynch the person who claims cop, just to see if his claim is true? Why not lynch the person who was accused by the cop? That way, if the cop is telling the truth, we got a mafia, if he was lying, we are only down a townie

As the evening started to die into night, the Finn Rock residents started to head back to their safe zones. Broomhead talks to Mach softly during the long walk. Master Bush exchanges a few amusing jokes with a stern and cold Trestain. A number of the residents went back to the safe zones earlier in the day, namely Supercram, Bogusbet, and Xenhu. Wicked and Houssam flank AK_iceman, chatting about the niceties of the weather and of the colors fading and mixing in the sky. After a few minutes of walk Wicked trips over an arm plummeting face first into pool of congealing blood. She screams out in horror and AK_iceman and Houssam rush to her aide, as Dussle. AK_iceman removes his shirt and wipes away some of the blood from her red face. Dussle and Houssam lift her from the ground as she puts her arms around their necks. AK_iceman tells the others to go on ahead and get Wicked back to the safe zones on account night is nearing. All three of them head out and AK_iceman lingers in the street, leaning next to a parked car. Reverend_kyle stumbles past AK_iceman quietly muttering to himself in an insane tone as if displaced from reality. AK_iceman watches in amusement for a minute and hops up onto the roof of the car. Just as he places all his weight onto the thin roof, it collapses in and AK_iceman falls through onto the seats below. He looks up at the hole he made and guesses that a tourist and not a native resident to Finn Rock, owns his convertible. AK_iceman reaches for the door latch but as he does he sees a few bodies out walking in the street through the foggy and crystal windows. He remains silent and unmoving for fear of who, or what, the bodies could be. One moves closer to the car and AK_iceman can make out the face of Supercram. He seems to have a deranged look in his eyes and on his face. Bogusbet stalks slowly behind him but the third seems to have wandered off in a different direction. After a few moments the two bodies out in the street lazily walk away from the car's direction. AK_iceman lets out a sigh of relief just as a metal smashes through the passenger window behind him. A hand reaches in through gaping hole and grabs AK_iceman by the cuff of his shirt. A few inaudible cries are let out and footfalls coming toward the car are heard. Another metal club slashes through the back canvas and two more hands fill that hole. AK_iceman tries to struggle away from his captors but he hears a large thud on the truck. Through the roof hole Supercram reaches down and begins to repeatedly knock his metal club into AK_iceman's head. Through the passenger window Xenhu grabs a rope and ties it around AK_iceman's neck and begins to pull and yank hard, screaming loudly all the wild. Bogusbet crawls through the fraying fibers and with a cry of hate slams his metal club straight into the eyes of AK_iceman. He cries out in pain blood from his eyes and broken nose and jaw spill from wounded head. Bogusbet retracts his club and on the end of it remains a tattered eye. The sounds from AK_iceman's body start to dwindle and eventually fade into the calming night. Each of the three bodies takes a grip on the rope around AK_iceman's neck and drags him out through the window and toward the Town Center where the other residents have now gathered to bare witness.

On the dying and brown grass rests AK_iceman, Leslie Norrel (CHI-2 Infected -- Two Face*), bludgeoned and battered--a buffet for worms and maggots to come.


Let the Third Night begin! Send in your night choices.


--Andy

**P.S. a Two-Face is a Mafia Mason who may not be who says he is.**

Mach, pulling quotes out of context is what tabloid news does. You're "creating suspicion" by pulling out certain lines to make people purposely look bad. I'll point out the errors I saw as best I can. I was going to comment on more than mine, than realized that may look like I'm "defending" someone, so I'll stick to mine.

Machiavelli wrote:
Why bring it up if you dont even know what it means?

>>>> as a possibility to explain what happened the first night (one of many thrown out). And I did know what it meant.

wicked wrote:the safety zone camp? huh? is that what your role stated?

Well your role didnt state that, but everyone elses did, so are probably mafia.

>>> that was directed at dussle. was trying to catch him in a lie about his location. he finally did answer correctly.

Master Bush wrote:

wicked wrote:dussle, I'm curious about your location. Care to explain it in a bit more detail?

I agree. I would also like to know what Wicked is wearing right now?

Did your pm not say safety zone either?

>>>> no one's did. I threw that out trying to see if dussle knew the terminology townies were given.




First this...

wicked wrote:cram, we can still talk while we're waiting. helps weed out the mafia.

Then this...

wicked wrote:if we cut back on the spam, it'll be easier to find things later on. cram, what's your name and occupation?

Which is it?

>>>> spam = useless posts, e.g I wonder what Wicked's wearing. chatting about roles and possible scenarios = not spam.



I agree completely. Earlier you claimed to be a vanilla townie, but no ones pm said "vanilla townie," they all said "healthy townie"

>>>> I was repeating Broom's term b/c I liked it, hence the note right after vanilla townie to that effect.




Here you appear to know about the kid, but later you claim not to.

>>>> Incorrect, and have always stated such. I have always known about the kid. please back that up with where you misunderstood that from.

wicked wrote:I'll be happy to answer any other questions you guys may have.

IMO, it appears that wicked is trying to hard to seem cooperative.

>>>> That was in response to people wanting to know about Houssam and I interacting outside the thread, which I explained already. I was very open about that so everyone would know I was following the rules.

sorry Andy, took me a long to respond to Mach's post, didn't know you had posted already.

w00t!!!

Good game guys.... May the best team win.

i like that i was an active member in the death this time. thanks, andy. very gratifying.

BAH! I was fooled.

reverend_kyle wrote:BAH! I was fooled.

No talking damn it!

Master Bush wrote:

reverend_kyle wrote:BAH! I was fooled.

No talking damn it!

REAL LIFE PROBLEM - I have missed everything since the 13th, should be able to catch up within the next 48 hrs.

wow missed a whole day that one was fast

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