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Re: Classic Map
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:03 pm
by Jeff Hardy
conquer club wrote:The Classic map, the Centerscape map, the instructions and our lingo have changed. Regrettably, this had to be done to avoid any potential copyright issues. We hope you continue to enjoy the unique gameplay that only Conquer Club can offer!
Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:08 pm
by kmhebert
InsomniaRed wrote:pookey wrote:Also while i think a petition can do a lot of things it can't do much about copyright issues.
Yeah and I can't be bothered, and I doubt people really care that much. The world hasn't ended it just looks a bit different.
Well in that case, we should change all 100+ maps to the wonderful stick and ball style of "Classic" and "Centerscape". No difference right!
Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:09 pm
by ManBungalow
The old system still lurks!
This is from Conquer Man :
2008-10-15 18:06:27 - ManBungalow receives -1 troops for holding 36
Territories (
Territory Adjustment)
Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:13 pm
by kmhebert
ManBungalow wrote:The old system still lurks!
This is from Conquer Man :
2008-10-15 18:06:27 - ManBungalow receives -1 troops for holding 36
Territories (
Territory Adjustment)
Heh it looks like they had to do a regular expression replace, probably looking for a space followed by a number there. That's going to give the win to Hasbro!
Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:16 pm
by InsomniaRed
kmhebert wrote:ManBungalow wrote:The old system still lurks!
This is from Conquer Man :
2008-10-15 18:06:27 - ManBungalow receives -1 troops for holding 36
Territories (
Territory Adjustment)
Heh it looks like they had to do a regular expression replace, probably looking for a space followed by a number there. That's going to give the win to Hasbro!
TERRITORIES awww
Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:17 pm
by yeti_c
That's a "continent" naming in the XML...
C.
Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:20 pm
by Yonak
It's a shame Hasbro has threatened to shut you down if you don't make your maps less attractive. I wonder what they get out of it except bad publicity.
Anyway, one suggestion on how to make the new Classic map more readable : Please increase the country size so the number of armies doesn't bleed into the frame of the country (at least twice the size). ..And while you increase the size of the countries that would give you the opportunity to change the shape of Oceania countries to triangles.
editing the look of maps
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:20 pm
by Starless Night
is there a way to make the classic map look more similar to the old one?
Re: editing the look of maps
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:22 pm
by cena-rules
NOPE
Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:36 pm
by Qwert
have no problem with CC changes the maps because of copyright issues but why change -
Attacks --> Assaults
Cards --> Spoils
Fortifications --> Reinforcements
Territories --> Regions
these is ok,but i agree that i dont understand that someon have exclusive right to use Dices,Cards,Fortification,Territories,Army and other old names. These words is so old that can not be copyright issue.
Its look that i can protect for example name Conquer and say"its mine word please change name of these site or i will sue you"
Can someon from mod explane how these words is protected,that nobody can use these.
"New" Maps Becoming "Beta" Maps
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:41 pm
by Ben Jamin
I for one will not play classic map anymore it is terrible and the old map was the only one I really liked playing.
Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:42 pm
by InsomniaRed
2008-10-15 11:39:30 - InsomniaRed gets spoils
Arghhh it just sounds wrong.
Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:44 pm
by Freetymes
Oh man this sucks!!!
I thought (and said... a lot) that the last set of changes to the classic map were bad. Well I now long for that map over this mess. I totally understand the need for the change but I am at a loss as to why this issue was not foreseen and why the powers that be here at CC did not have something already done or in the works for this eventuality. It is well known that there were some angry ex members that were contacting Hasbro in an effort to shine a bad light on CC. and that sooner or later, in any case, they would look this way as the site got more and more press and paying customers.
Oh well lets all hope that the community can come up with something beyond the mess we now have as the "Favorite" map soon.
I would like to whine....
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:00 pm
by atheistheretic
So I am in the middle of playing a game on the classic map, right?
I am finishing this turn, by taking an important territory, It is VERY important.
I end one attack, not being one for autoattack, it always ends too soon, I only use it on sure things, like 20 t0 4.
Suddenly all the peple are in differant places! and attack is now assault! the button on the right is assault.
The map change happened!
BUT THE MAP DIDN'T REFRESH!
So I basically am looking at all this random placement all over the countries and ocean nothing matching up and all of a sudden the countries make no sense because the pic is of the old classic!
IT might as well have been "attack from?" "unknown", "unknown", "unknown", "unknown", "unknown", "unknown" to "unknown", "unknown", "unknown"
Old map FTW!
Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:02 pm
by ManBungalow
yeti_c wrote:That's a "continent" naming in the XML...
C.
Yes, technically, but it's still there...
Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:03 pm
by jaydog
after all this still no word from Lack, unreal,
I see how it is Lack, your not even going to give us the time of day?
Twills little piece on 63 said nothing we don''t already know, How long till its fixed? should we be worried that one day i will log on to find this site shut down? a little forewarning and you wouldn't have had mass panic and unrest amongst your cash cows
Re: Classic Map
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:10 pm
by wiggybowler
Personally if something doesn't happen to fix the Classic map real soon, I am done with CC.
Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:19 pm
by max is gr8
I love the new map and dice, I love them, they're so retro...
Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:28 pm
by ManBungalow
Twill wrote:Hey everybody.
There's been a lot of activity on the changes we made yesterday. A lot of upset people (myself included) and a lot of questions. Let me do my best to address those concerns from what I know:
1) The maps are fugly. Yes, we know they are. I personally agree with you all on that point, but we had to change them to avoid potential copyright issues. Andydufresne, and Oaktown along with at least one or two users have already begun work on a revamp contest to find someone to come up with something better. We're hoping it goes up soon so we can get back to something more playable.
2) <so and so> must DIE! - no, they must not. Please do not attempt to arrange any sort of lynch mobs, class action law suits, consumer boycots or intestinal stranglings. These will accomplish nothing other than to piss off more people which wont solve anything for anyone, and trying to strangle someone may just make things worse - we don't want murder on our hands
Please let us handle any issues that are related to this.
3) Communication SUCKS, I'm leaving, you blow, how dare you, I want a refund - these are all fair criticisms and we are truly sorry that this panned out the way it did but again, it was something we did to avoid potential issues. All I ask is that if you have a specific complaint or suggestion please try to contact me. My inbox it flooding right now, but I will try to get to all of your concerns and address them as best as I can as soon as I can.
4) To those of you who have sent us best wishes, thank you. I wish I could thank you all personally because they mean a lot to us. I can only hope that these changes aren't too onerous and that we can continue to offer you a great game and an enjoyable site.
I know that this doesn't fix everything, but we are going to be taking steps to make things less ugly and messy. This thread is moving fairly quickly so please quote this message once every couple of pages so that future readers can keep up to date. I'm trying to read all the posts and am PMing several people to address their concerns at a pace it can be followed, but there are a lot to get through
Hang in there folks, pretty maps are hopefully coming
Twill
*Quoted*
Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:35 pm
by mightyleemoon
ManBungalow wrote:*Quoted*
Thanks for that. This thread is ridiculously big....to be having to go searching for some comments about what's going on.
Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:43 pm
by ManBungalow
Oh and if anyone remembers my post 23 hours ago saying "in 23 hours I'll check this thread, and I bet there will be 1000 posts" (something like that)...just so you know : I wasn't being too serious when I said that...
1049 now is it???
I'm scared
Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:50 pm
by Nickbaldwin
jaydog wrote:after all this still no word from Lack, unreal,
I see how it is Lack, your not even going to give us the time of day?
Twills little piece on 63 said nothing we don''t already know, How long till its fixed? should we be worried that one day i will log on to find this site shut down? a little forewarning and you wouldn't have had mass panic and unrest amongst your cash cows
Maybe he's ummmm, working?
Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:52 pm
by Juan_Bottom
Personally I just want to say that I support the site and the temporary loss of 2 maps is not affecting me in any terrible way. I really hope that Twill and everyone are having an easier time here than I think that they are. Everything kind of happened at once.
But that said, why is this taking so long? I know it's only been 2 days but classic is a big deal map... Someone needs to crank that. I don't think there is time to dilly dally around on this one... especially knowing how notoriously slow the foundry can be. Because this:
wiggybowler wrote:Personally if something doesn't happen to fix the Classic map real soon, I am done with CC.
Is all to common speak from people that we never even hear from.
Nickbaldwin wrote:Maybe he's ummmm, working?
No doubt, the sh*t hit the fan.
Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:58 pm
by PepperJack
Juan_Bottom wrote:But that said, why is this taking so long? I know it's only been 2 days but classic is a big deal map... Someone needs to crank that. I don't think there is time to dilly dally around on this one... especially knowing how notoriously slow the foundry can be. Because
Its been barely over 1 day. Everyone, relax.
Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:07 pm
by delahoc
pookey wrote:Fortifications --> Reinforcements
Actually guys, if you're trying to un-Hasbro the game, then changing fortifying into reinforcing is not a good option. Hasbro actually use the word 'reinforcement' as the first part of a player's turn - what at CC has been called 'deplyment'. So you're swapping one Hasbro-ism for another ....