Conquer Club

I say that given what derf's claim is I doubt it's a real role in the game. Way too powerful/unbalanced IMHO. I think there should be a lynching as he is almost for sure cult and possibly the leader. Don't give a Cult leader a chance to recruit another member, IMHO. I will also throw one last thought into the ring for some discussion.......He could be trying to draw our attention away from the real Cult Leader so the blue cult can recruit one more Villager tonight. Possible but not as likely to me AAR.

spiesr wrote:

Suspect101 wrote:From reading past other games, we do not need a lynch to go to night.

Sort of correct. To go to night, we need to have a majority vote to lynch someone, a majority vote to not lynch, or a deadline to expire. Right now there is no deadline, so day will only end when a majority is reached.

Suspect101 wrote:and why would the psychologist protect you over anyone esle, what was your claim?

His claim was vanilla townie.

I'm plain townie. One of the investigators wants to investigate me tonight and being that I have not been recruited to be scum I want to guaranttee that none of the groups goes for me this night as I would prefer to win as town instead of hope for a cult win.

I dont really know what to say other than I am the flipper-flopper and havent be recruited so should not be lynched. As Suspect said if I am telling the truth and you lynch me then it is blue's game to lose.

Derfs claim is too far-fetched is to powerful to be real. If a cult accidently recruits him, then they are dead. This claim also puts him in the perfect position if he is scum.

Vote Derf

Well, I, like LSU, deserve to be protected because I am just a vanilla townie and I have no protection against recruitment.

william18 wrote:Derfs claim is too far-fetched is to powerful to be real. If a cult accidently recruits him, then they are dead. This claim also puts him in the perfect position if he is scum.

Vote Derf

The town was the team that started out with the huge disadvantage you know? Why not have an equalizer of some sort? Even with 1 cult down (the second cult would probably still have to get the info to the town) we would still be at a disadvantage.

captainwalrus wrote:Well, I, like LSU, deserve to be protected because I am just a vanilla townie and I have no protection against recruitment.

lol, wut?

Juan_Bottom wrote:

william18 wrote:Derfs claim is too far-fetched is to powerful to be real. If a cult accidently recruits him, then they are dead. This claim also puts him in the perfect position if he is scum.

Vote Derf

The town was the team that started out with the huge disadvantage you know? Why not have an equalizer of some sort? Even with 1 cult down (the second cult would probably still have to get the info to the town) we would still be at a disadvantage.

It's just a really odd equalizer if derf is actually the "flipper flopper". It relies on one of the cults recruiting derf instead of derf actually having an active role he can use to tip the balance to the town side.

I don't think blue cult are gonna recruit derf.

william18 wrote:I don't think blue cult are gonna recruit derf.

...So? It's pretty well established that derf is the blue cult leader.

ace1217 wrote:It's pretty well established that derf is the blue cult leader.

Are you sure that he is the leader? (Assuming he is cult) We don't exactly know that he is the leader. he has seemed scummy since about the begining, but he could have been recruited early on, rather than just being the leader. We can't know fro sure until he is dead...

spiesr wrote:

ace1217 wrote:It's pretty well established that derf is the blue cult leader.

Are you sure that he is the leader? (Assuming he is cult) We don't exactly know that he is the leader. he has seemed scummy since about the begining, but he could have been recruited early on, rather than just being the leader. We can't know fro sure until he is dead...

He's been scummy since D1, a time where he can't have been recruited.

prods on inactives please

I feel more like those pointing their finger at Derf are the cult. It's the only way they will get rid of him without recruitment.

Stroop wrote:It's just a really odd equalizer if derf is actually the "flipper flopper". It relies on one of the cults recruiting derf instead of derf actually having an active role he can use to tip the balance to the town side.

It would still be an equalizer though. How else would the town stand a chance? I don't see anyone else standing up and saying that they are in possession of a power.

Juan_Bottom wrote:I feel more like those pointing their finger at Derf are the cult. It's the only way they will get rid of him without recruitment.

Stroop wrote:It's just a really odd equalizer if derf is actually the "flipper flopper". It relies on one of the cults recruiting derf instead of derf actually having an active role he can use to tip the balance to the town side.

It would still be an equalizer though. How else would the town stand a chance? I don't see anyone else standing up and saying that they are in possession of a power.

Look guys at derf's best he's a unrecruitable townie which means nothing now, and at his worst he's blue cult, which is far more likely.

I don't think there is much to contribute at the moment, my vote is on derf and staying there... just waiting for one of his blue cult scum buddies to lay down a hammer

fine ace if you are so sure that I am cult then why dont the two unrevealed power roles step up to prove if im not cult

derfderf34 wrote:fine ace if you are so sure that I am cult then why dont the two unrevealed power roles step up to prove if im not cult

They cannot prove your innocence, only your guilt. So are you like a cult member trying to bait out the power roles with your dying breath? Or are you just out of ideas and don't know what to do?

Vote Count

derfderf24 - 6 votes (Stroop, captainwalrus, ace1217, william18, LSU Tiger Josh, nagerous)
LSU Tiger Josh - 1 vote (derfderf34)

With 14 players it takes 8 votes to lynch

derfderf is at L-2

[quote=Suspect101]
prods on inactives please
[/quote]
I just did that on friday, the only inactive we have is Iliad

this last vote is taking forever so... We have a 3 day time limit from this post!

In an effort to get this thing moving I'm going to majority derf.

VOTE::Derfderf

I should be more active this week as I have access to a 'net ready computer.

Natewolfman wrote:Vote Count

derfderf24 - 7 votes (william18, Stroop, captainwalrus, ace1217, william18, LSU Tiger Josh, nagerous)
LSU Tiger Josh - 1 vote (derfderf34)

With 14 players it takes 8 votes to lynch

derfderf is at L-1

[quote=Suspect101]
prods on inactives please

I just did that on friday, the only inactive we have is Iliad [/quote]

You have william18 on here twice derf is at L-2.

With Norse, this puts him at L-1

Care to hammer then??

fixed

Vote Count

derfderf24 - 7 votes (Stroop, captainwalrus, ace1217, william18, LSU Tiger Josh, nagerous, norsemsn1066)
LSU Tiger Josh - 1 vote (derfderf34)

With 14 players it takes 8 votes to lynch

derfderf is at L-1

Iliad
Haggis_McMutton
spiesr
Juan_Bottom

The above people are next on the chopping block when Derfderf comes up cult. Since derfdef is cult and there are at most 4 people in any cult 3 out of those 4 are cult. I say we are in a pretty good place, now lets lynch. I am willing to be my life (within this game) that derfderf is cult and if, by some freak acsident, he comes up town, lynch me tomorrow.

Well, since now there's a deadline, almost everyone seems to be pushing for the hammer, and there haven't really been any compelling arguments as why to not lynch derf in the past few RL days, i guess i'll comply to the will of the majority

Vote derf

And there's no need to offer yourself to be lynched captainwalrus, we get it, you're really sure derf's cult, no harm in discussing things thoroughly though. I don't like rushing a lynch.