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Re: Das SchloSSV35(P64) Helipads

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:50 pm
by Blitzaholic
cairnswk wrote:Question:
The old map had a helipad in the village.
It was taken out for this new map.
Does anyone want it back? so that anyone from town can attack the airport and the castle and all three ways.



why did you take it out? or could you explain the pros and cons or having it?

Re: Das SchloSSV35(P64) Helipads

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:10 pm
by cairnswk
Blitzaholic wrote:
cairnswk wrote:Question:
The old map had a helipad in the village.
It was taken out for this new map.
Does anyone want it back? so that anyone from town can attack the airport and the castle and all three ways.



why did you take it out? or could you explain the pros and cons or having it?


Helipads discussion starts here back on page 35.
Blitz...i think you were involved too small extent around this time...
From what i have read and getting my head around the map thread again, it seems the helipad in town was taken out so that more use could be made of the cable cars, plus the inclusion of the new road from town up to the castle.
So i don't know if i have re-opened a can of old worms by asking this question again when it seems it was probably already decided by a lot of input from various people at that time....

I aks the question because:
a. i looked at the Holzschuppen (Wood shed which was in the original story) and wondered if that was redundant and only required as part of the town bonus
b. whether it could be re-instated as another alternative attack route to the castle when players needed it.
c. it seemed appropriate to try to use it to re-open the discussion on this map again whic is now required for re-stamping.

I recall that in the first games lots of fighting was done over this as a tert to stop players moving about more freely.
So could it come in handy again, or would it only lead to a way of cloggin up the game.

The other thing i wanted to pass by everyone was:
The cable cars have been reduced to three attack routes to the castle and then to the airport eachway, with no bonus attached.
If the SchloßStraße (Ss) is also used as a route to castle, should it have a bonus attached to it?
I am kinda thinking no, as this will allow someone to clogg up that route by gaining enough armies to stop another player from accessing the route.

So in this thinking out loud (with myself here :? ) I am now convinced:
A. that the replacement of the holzschuppen by another Helipad in town should not happen as it will lead to players not battling over access to the castle
B. the bonus for the Schloßstraße should be removed.

Sorry if this is confusing :)

Re: Das SchloSSV35(P64) Helipad in Town?

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:38 am
by yeti_c
What are we waiting for - I thought this was ready to go as soon as the old games had been finished?!

C.

Re: Das SchloSSV35(P64) Helipads

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:37 am
by Kotaro
cairnswk wrote:Question:
The old map had a helipad in the village.
It was taken out for this new map.
Does anyone want it back? so that anyone from town can attack the airport and the castle and all three ways.


I don't believe you should bring it back, no.

Re: Das SchloSSV35(P64) Schloßstraße Bonus?

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:13 pm
by cairnswk
Kotaro wrote:
cairnswk wrote:Question:
The old map had a helipad in the village.
It was taken out for this new map.
Does anyone want it back? so that anyone from town can attack the airport and the castle and all three ways.


I don't believe you should bring it back, no.

Thanks Kotaro for the feedback.

yeti_c wrote:What are we waiting for - I thought this was ready to go as soon as the old games had been finished?!
C.


Well, yes and no C.
What i'd like to know is
"do you think the bonus for the Schloßstraße should be removed?"
It is access wasy to the castle and giving it a bonus only allows someone to clogg up that route if they mamnage to gain hold of it. The cable cars don't have a bonus so why should the SchloßStraße have a bonus?

Re: Das Schloß V35(P64) Schloßstraße Bonus? (P67)

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:28 am
by Echospree
I think the bonus should be removed. It's really just supposed to be a passageway, not a vital resource you can use to gain more troops.

Re: Das Schloß V35(P64) Schloßstraße Bonus? (P67)

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:21 pm
by cairnswk
Echospree wrote:I think the bonus should be removed. It's really just supposed to be a passageway, not a vital resource you can use to gain more troops.

OK, anyone else think bonus for Schloßstraße should be removed?

Re: Das Schloß V38(P68)

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:37 pm
by cairnswk
Version 38.

1. SchloßeStraße Bonus removed
2. Bonus legend re-arranged to look tidier, i think it works. the old legend was messy
3. I had adjusted some bonuses and not read the text, os these bonuses are now adjusted back to the almost original amounts
4. lanyards has agreed to re-do the new xml

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Re: Das Schloß V38(P68) - Bonus legend re-worked

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:36 pm
by cairnswk
Version 39.

I've re-read this thread and made the following changes...
1. Helipads are now known as Landplatz A & B
2. the helicopter re-spawns to 60 neutrals (already decided sometime back)
3. Postiions P1-4 are now DD1-4 due to duplication names.

Image with neutral values.
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Re: Das Schloß V38(P68) - Bonus legend reworks

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:11 am
by pamoa
still working on this
what a courage =D>
just a linguistic remark
you are using the term private (Pvt.) for simple soldiers
private is a name used only in English speaking armies
in German as in French or Italian for the one I know the term is soldat (Soldaten, pl. in ger.)

Re: Das Schloß V38(P68) - Bonus legend reworks

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:20 pm
by cairnswk
pamoa wrote:still working on this
what a courage =D>
just a linguistic remark
you are using the term private (Pvt.) for simple soldiers
private is a name used only in English speaking armies
in German as in French or Italian for the one I know the term is soldat (Soldaten, pl. in ger.)

OK, so your suggestion is to change Pvt. to ? :)

Re: Das Schloß V38(P68) - Bonus legend reworks

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:12 am
by pamoa
Sdt instead of Pvt

Re: Das Schloß V38(P68) - Bonus legend reworks

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:03 am
by cairnswk
pamoa wrote:Sdt instead of Pvt

Done, please F5 to see the changes on the maps above. :)

Re: Das SchloSSV35(P64) Please discuss BONUSES

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:48 pm
by captainwalrus
cairnswk wrote:I have changed the Kontrol-turm and Parkplatz to 4 neutral each. I think that is fair, and a good compromise between the both of them.


You never changed that, but besides that, things are getting better.
What territories are part of the das dorf bonus?

Re: Das Schloß V38(P68) - Bonus legend reworks

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:52 pm
by Kotaro
Looking really nice now cairnswk.

Re: Das SchloSSV35(P64) Please discuss BONUSES

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:20 pm
by cairnswk
captainwalrus wrote:
cairnswk wrote:I have changed the Kontrol-turm and Parkplatz to 4 neutral each. I think that is fair, and a good compromise between the both of them.


You never changed that, but besides that, things are getting better.
What territories are part of the das dorf bonus?


Fixed, please F5 your browser.
"Das Dorf comprises 8 white patterned territories only", but is intermingled with Soldaten and one of the objectives being Kom. Wilhelm.
Das Dorf is surrounded my Dorf Straße (Ds)

Kotaro wrote:Looking really nice now cairnswk.

Danke ;)

Re: Das Schloß V38(P68) - Bonus legend reworks

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:47 pm
by murphy16
Can't wait for it to come out! :D

Re: Das Schloß V38(P68) - What more?

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:38 pm
by cairnswk
Large and small version have been posted for sometime on this, and most of the gameplay has been worked out long ago.
Can this be re-stamped and advanced?...so that xml can be done.

Re: Das Schloß V38(P68) - What more?

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:55 am
by captainwalrus
YES YES YES!!!
It deffentntly deserves a new graphics and then gameplay.

Re: Das Schloß V38(P68) - What more?

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:11 pm
by cairnswk
captainwalrus wrote:YES YES YES!!!
It deffentntly deserves a new graphics and then gameplay.

I wonder where they are?

Re: Das Schloß V38(P68) - Bonus legend reworks

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:58 am
by 00iCon
cairnswk wrote:
pamoa wrote:still working on this
what a courage =D>
just a linguistic remark
you are using the term private (Pvt.) for simple soldiers
private is a name used only in English speaking armies
in German as in French or Italian for the one I know the term is soldat (Soldaten, pl. in ger.)

OK, so your suggestion is to change Pvt. to ? :)


and this whole time i though is was an english/american assault

Edit: AAAH! Those ones! my bad, that was a good suggestion.

Re: Das Schloß V38(P68) - What more?

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:29 pm
by Iron Maid
As [player]pamoa[/player] also wrote some linguistic remarks I would like to note the following:

Runway = Start- und Landebahn (probably just Landebahn will fit best)

Escape-Flugzeuge = Vorfeld (this is an airport ramp or apron)

Taxiway = Rollbahn

Inn = Kneipe

Quad = Innenplatz (just Platz will do also)

Landplatz, should be Landeplatz

Haupstitz, should be Hauptsitz

Das W.C, I would prefer the word: Klo (short term for Klosett (Water Closet))

Regards,


Iron Maid

And what I also want to say is that you are doing a great job on making all these nice maps. =D> =D>

Re: Das Schloß V38(P68) - What more?

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:04 pm
by cairnswk
Iron Maid wrote:As [player]pamoa[/player] also wrote some linguistic remarks I would like to note the following:
Runway = Start- und Landebahn (probably just Landebahn will fit best)
Done
Escape-Flugzeuge = Vorfeld (this is an airport ramp or apron)
Prefer to keep as is.
Taxiway = Rollbahn
Done
Inn = Kneipe
Done
Quad = Innenplatz (just Platz will do also)
Done
Landplatz, should be Landeplatz
Done
Haupstitz, should be Hauptsitz
Done
Das W.C, I would prefer the word: Klo (short term for Klosett (Water Closet))
Prefer to keep Das W.C.
Regards,
Iron Maid
And what I also want to say is that you are doing a great job on making all these nice maps. =D> =D>

Iron Maid, thanks for those suggestions for next version. :)

Re: Das Schloß V38(P68) - What more?

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:35 pm
by Kotaro
Nicely done! I don't see what else is needed. It looks great, and I bet it plays great too

Re: Das Schloß V39

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:03 am
by cairnswk
Version 39. Please refresh f5.
Updated with some new names, replacements of english for german.

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