Don't take my word for it.....take theirs.

[muy_thaiguy]

Conspiracies I believe in:

911 was a false flag:They needed a reason to go to war in the middle east.

Illuminati: These are the guys (international bankers and elites) who actually control governments around the world who are pushing us to a New World Order.

The US never intended to win Vietnam....just prolong the "conflict" so those bankers could make butt loads of money.

The elections are fixed. They put into office who they want in office and when they start to stray from the "master plan" they end up like JFK....(after Reagan was shot he "got on board" with them)

That the media is controlled by these same people.

That the Fluoride in our drinking water was put there to "dumb down" the people.

Its conceivable that we are being poisoned.

On a side note, I'm not totally convinced, but Haarp being used to start earthquakes is conceivable.

I don't believe in aliens, reptilians or ufo's.

WRONG! I'll tell you right now, that Wyoming runs the world! Who would suspect us? Most people can't even point us out on a map, much less think that we exist!

[jay_a2j]

Yeah, the greatest President of the Free World would really stoop to such a thing

1:45 speech. What was he talking about? Listen closely to his words!

JFK Speech

[TaylorSandbek]

Yeah, the greatest President of the Free World would really stoop to such a thing

1:45 speech. What was he talking about? Listen closely to his words!

JFK Speech

WOW! OKAY where do I sign? I buy in to it one hundred percent now!

[Neutrino]

JFK was killed by government
I never believed in this one till about two weeks ago. That's when I learned that there was a newspaper in New Zealand that came out 24hrs before he was killed. This paper said that the president had been killed and Oswald was arrested.

Linkage, please. I find it difficult to believe anyone, including a major government, would be stupid enough to go around telling completely arbitrary third parties about conspiracies, before they happened.

our government knowing gives you cancer, diabeties, and autism
three very common ingredients in vaccines given to schoolchildren, mercury, silver, aluminum

I can kinda understad the autism one, but do you have any reasoning for the government to be trying to enduce the (very costly) others in schoolchildren? Or are they just trying to keep themselves well-supplied with baby-back ribs?


Anyways, while I too feel there is something a little fishy about the whole 9/11 thing, but I find it hard to believe that the US government managed to do it so damn well and yet so damn badly.
Take the explosive experts for example. Where are they? Either the government managed to find a few dozen mindless automata, or they were all killed immediately after they had done their duty. If the latter, why hasn't anyone noticed that several whole teams of demolitions experts spontaneously went missing?
What about all the petty government officials who would have been involved, no matter how peripherally? Have none of them drawn a correlation between that large shipment of thermite they had to approve and the attacks? Why have none of them come forward?
There are plenty of other examples (like why the government didn't destroy it they way they said it was destroyed...) but that's all I can be bothered elaborating on at this point. If you want to, respond, and maybe we can get a proper discussion going...

[Juan_Bottom]

I'll look for the link. A copy of the paper just sold on EBAY for $4,000.00

I'm not saying that they want to give kids cancer for any special reason, just that they knowingly do.
My best GUESS would be that sick people buy medicine, and treatment? I don't know....

And most truthers think the explosive experts came from Israel. The bomb theory originated from the people inside the buildings. Nobody really denied that there were bombs, untill 2 days later.There are even tapes out there of firemen inside the towers talking about bombs going off.

And I agree with AJ about the elections. 60% of all voting machines are privately owned. This is a violation of the Constitution. But because they are privately owned, they don't need to release the full results. Google how many times the full electronic results have ever been posted. But since Bush was elected by the electoral college in 2000, I wouldn't call this a conspiracy really. Nobody is hiding it.

And the first time Floride was ever added to water was by the Nazis. They added it to the water supplies in concentration camps to act as a pacifist. So I think AJ has a point.

[TaylorSandbek]

I'll look for the link. A copy of the paper just sold on EBAY for $4,000.00

I'm not saying that they want to give kids cancer for any special reason, just that they knowingly do.

And most truthers think the explosive experts came from Israel. The bomb theory originated from the people inside the buildings. Nobody really denied that there were bombs, untill 2 days later.There are even tapes out there of firemen inside the towers talking about bombs going off.

And I agree with AJ about the elections. 60% of all voting machines are privately owned. This is a violation of the Constitution. But because they are privately owned, they don't need to release the full results. Google how many times the full electronic results have ever been posted. But since Bush was elected by the electoral college in 2000, I wouldn't call this a conspiracy really. Nobody is hiding it.

And the first time Floride was ever added to water was by the Nazis. They added it to the water supplies in concentration camps to act as a pacifist. So I think AJ has a point.

Are you his multi?

[Juan_Bottom]

I haven't yet found the article that I was talking about, but I am still looking(dail up).

Here is what I have found so that you will at least know what I'm talking about... But I have never heard of this book...
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ma ... ipting.htm
http://www.orwelltoday.com/jfkpress.shtml

[muy_thaiguy]

You've... Never heard of 1984? That was practically a required book for me in high school!

[TaylorSandbek]

I know.. Words that we use everyday are derived from that book!

Tell me, what is the meaning of...

"...Orwellian like double-think"

[Juan_Bottom]

TAYLORSANDBEK ruins CONQUERCLUB for me. I almost want to play him just so that I can leave that feedback for him.

[TaylorSandbek]

Okay? Nice to know..

[Juan_Bottom]

You've... Never heard of 1984? That was practically a required book for me in high school!

Sorry friend. Maybe you could give me a general idea?

[Juan_Bottom]

JAY_A2J, have you heard of OPERATION NORTHWOODS before? I just learnt of it this morning. I can't believe I never heard of it before. I feel dumb. But I wanted to know your thoughs.

[Ray Rider]

*ahem* Excuse me. I just had to laugh at how gullible some people are.

[Juan_Bottom]

:lol: *ahem* Excuse me. I just had to laugh at how gullible some people are.

About what in perticular?

[heavycola]

The elections are fixed. They put into office who they want in office and when they start to stray from the "master plan" they end up like JFK....(after Reagan was shot he "got on board" with them)

JFK was shot by lee harvey oswald acting alone. This was proven years ago.
http://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/concl.htm - the conclusions of a 10-year project to recreate Dealey Plaza, the motorcade and the trajectories of bullets based on frame-by-frame of the zapruder footage.

That the media is controlled by these same people.

YOUTUBE! Your favourite source! Owned by all-controlling multinational corporation Google. Something you ALWAYS conveniently ignore.

That the Fluoride in our drinking water was put there to "dumb down" the people.

Don't blame this nonsense on fluoridisation. No one forces you to post this stuff.

Its conceivable that we are being poisoned.

Those of us reading this drivel, yes.

On a side note, I'm not totally convinced, but Haarp being used to start earthquakes is conceivable.

Irish lager? It's possible.

I don't believe in aliens, reptilians or ufo's.

because THAT would be silly, right?
Jay, why don't you believe in aliens?

[Juan_Bottom]

The elections are fixed. They put into office who they want in office and when they start to stray from the "master plan" they end up like JFK....(after Reagan was shot he "got on board" with them)

JFK was shot by lee harvey oswald acting alone. This was proven years ago.
http://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/concl.htm - the conclusions of a 10-year project to recreate Dealey Plaza, the motorcade and the trajectories of bullets based on frame-by-frame of the zapruder footage.

That the media is controlled by these same people.

YOUTUBE! Your favourite source! Owned by all-controlling multinational corporation Google. Something you ALWAYS conveniently ignore.

That the Fluoride in our drinking water was put there to "dumb down" the people.

Don't blame this nonsense on fluoridisation. No one forces you to post this stuff.

Its conceivable that we are being poisoned.

Those of us reading this drivel, yes.

On a side note, I'm not totally convinced, but Haarp being used to start earthquakes is conceivable.

Irish lager? It's possible.

I don't believe in aliens, reptilians or ufo's.

because THAT would be silly, right?
Jay, why don't you believe in aliens?

Actually, I was fully with you on the JFK thing untill I saw the newspaper. I just can't seem to get over it. There is also supposed to be a video on youtube from that day. Some colonel guy is on it talking about "kill points," but I haven't bothered.

I also think Jay has a valid point about the FLORIDE. And the elections are rigged. How else did Bush make it into office the first time?

Also, Google has fought every spy bill, and 'morality regulation' that the government has tried to impose on it. So I disagree with you there. But I do agree that YOUTUBE is a retarded source. Every a-hole and their mum has a video on it.

[jay_a2j]

JAY_A2J, have you heard of OPERATION NORTHWOODS before? I just learnt of it this morning. I can't believe I never heard of it before. I feel dumb. But I wanted to know your thoughs.

First time I've head of it. So I googled it and read a little on it, watched a youtube video on it (yeah HC, sue me). I wouldn't doubt it. I mean after 911, what can we put past them?


And to address the youtube thing.... yes there is much trash on it...but does that mean ALL the video's are fraudulent? That's kinda like saying all Priests are pedophiles.

[heavycola]

JAY_A2J, have you heard of OPERATION NORTHWOODS before? I just learnt of it this morning. I can't believe I never heard of it before. I feel dumb. But I wanted to know your thoughs.

First time I've head of it. So I googled it and read a little on it, watched a youtube video on it (yeah HC, sue me). I wouldn't doubt it. I mean after 911, what can we put past them?


And to address the youtube thing.... yes there is much trash on it...but does that mean ALL the video's are fraudulent? That's kinda like saying all Priests are pedophiles.

I didn't suggest they were all fraudulent.
You say the new world order controls the media. Here are some WSJ stats on Youtube:

# YouTube hosts over six million videos, growing at about 20 percent every month.
# Video views have reached 1.73 billion.
# The total time spent watching YouTube videos since it started last year is 9,305 years!

That's a LOT of media. WHy not control that, too? if the NWO is as all-powerful as to put chemicals in our water to make us dumberer, surely a website owned by oen multinational corporation, a website with the power to get messages, hypnosis and subliminal messages to billions of people, woudl be the FIRST thing it would control?
Yet no - despite your warnings about 'the media' you continue to suck up whatever you see on Youtube, one of the most watched media outlets on the planet, without ever wondering who made it or why.

[suggs]

"Haarp Lager -its a possibility", cracked me up
Nice to see Cola back in action, destroying the imbeciles with what looks like consumate ease.

[got tonkaed]

"Haarp Lager -its a possibility", cracked me up
Nice to see Cola back in action, destroying the imbeciles with what looks like consumate ease.

while consummate ease certainly is one way of describing it, i like to refer to it, as with a minimum of fuss...but thats just a personal preference.

[suggs]

Altho' on the other hand...

[Juan_Bottom]

JAY_A2J, have you heard of OPERATION NORTHWOODS before? I just learnt of it this morning. I can't believe I never heard of it before. I feel dumb. But I wanted to know your thoughs.

First time I've head of it. So I googled it and read a little on it, watched a youtube video on it (yeah HC, sue me). I wouldn't doubt it. I mean after 911, what can we put past them?


And to address the youtube thing.... yes there is much trash on it...but does that mean ALL the video's are fraudulent? That's kinda like saying all Priests are pedophiles.

I didn't suggest they were all fraudulent.
You say the new world order controls the media. Here are some WSJ stats on Youtube:

# YouTube hosts over six million videos, growing at about 20 percent every month.
# Video views have reached 1.73 billion.
# The total time spent watching YouTube videos since it started last year is 9,305 years!

That's a LOT of media. WHy not control that, too? if the NWO is as all-powerful as to put chemicals in our water to make us dumberer, surely a website owned by oen multinational corporation, a website with the power to get messages, hypnosis and subliminal messages to billions of people, woudl be the FIRST thing it would control?
Yet no - despite your warnings about 'the media' you continue to suck up whatever you see on Youtube, one of the most watched media outlets on the planet, without ever wondering who made it or why.

You guys are still missing out on the Floride thing. He DOES have a point on this one.
I consider YouTube to be a credit, but not so much a referance.
And on the Techtonic weapons thing, Congress has voted on banning them. So someone important considers them viable, though I don't. While I believe that the science behind such a weapon is shakey, I won't outright reject the argument. It's just microwaves. But again, I didn't see JAYS references either.

[jay_a2j]

I find the last 3 minutes of THIS CLIP to have some credibility.

[heavycola]

I find the last 3 minutes of THIS CLIP to have some credibility.

Any chance of a response to my post abotu youtueb that isn't just a link to youtube?