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Postby poo-maker on Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:30 am

Blitzaholic wrote:so the mods investigated and said no, but some cc players still say yes?


Yes, the mods investigated. And Warsteiner was cleared. But was blocked from playing with someone as a precaution.

Congrats Warsteiner, keep it up

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sully wrote:As for the debate at hand- it is true that Warsteiner has made multiple alliances with strakkebillen, but its also true that he does that with different players in all of his games. The fact that he sometimes is allied with strakkebillen and sometimes nothing is announced does not indicate a secret alliance by itself.

That being said, it does seem like strakkebillen attacks Warsteiner less often than other players. Perhaps that is intentional, perhaps not....there is not enough evidence to prove that this is intentional cheating, especially on Warsteiner's behalf. But the pattern is pretty clear, and I support King Achilles fully in his decision to block Warsteiner and strakkebillen

However a point reset and stripped premium are not in order. Unlike other cases where we had personal testimony from multiple people to serve as evidence, all the data in this case is conjecture. Warsteiner has won a lot while strakkebillen is in the game, but he wins a lot when strakkebillen is not there as well. Unless strakke were to come on here and tell us that Warsteiner asked him to cheat, there is no evidence to indicate it ever happened.

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Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:34 am

appears they were reported and caught to me which is why they were blocked

"However, considering that he has been reported twice, admitted that they know each other, was already warned, I have no choice but to block Warsteiner and strakkebillen from playing together to avoid further 'damage' for other players and for themselves as well". King Achilles

"But the pattern is pretty clear, and I support King Achilles fully in his decision to block Warsteiner and strakkebillen". Sully

how many times does a player need to be reported and warned and finally blocked for it to be enough?
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Postby Blitzaholic on Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:36 am

STUD24 wrote:Pffft calm down little girls it's just a game. Who cares if he was cheating no ones going to care. I cheated last month and admitted to cheating in the forum and still wasn't banned!!! Don't believe me?

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=35116

There's the proof!!!


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Postby Blitzaholic on Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:37 am

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:appears they were reported and caught to me which is why they were blocked

"However, considering that he has been reported twice, admitted that they know each other, was already warned, I have no choice but to block Warsteiner and strakkebillen from playing together to avoid further 'damage' for other players and for themselves as well". King Achilles

"But the pattern is pretty clear, and I support King Achilles fully in his decision to block Warsteiner and strakkebillen". Sully

how many times does a player need to be reported and warned and finally blocked for it to be enough?



hmmmm and why did stud player get let off? cause he premium?
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Postby poo-maker on Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:41 am

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:appears they were reported and caught to me which is why they were blocked

"However, considering that he has been reported twice, admitted that they know each other, was already warned, I have no choice but to block Warsteiner and strakkebillen from playing together to avoid further 'damage' for other players and for themselves as well". King Achilles

"But the pattern is pretty clear, and I support King Achilles fully in his decision to block Warsteiner and strakkebillen". Sully

how many times does a player need to be reported and warned and finally blocked for it to be enough?


I know what you're talking about JR. But, in freestyle speed games, it would also be a normal tactic for me to attack reliable players less than i would attack begginers... just like what is mentioned in sullys analysis.

Sully even said that there wasn't enough evidence to ban them, but he had no choice but to block Warsteiner and strakkebillen because they had been reported before.... for talking in a language other than english in the game chat. It's was fair for them to be blocked, but they still weren't proven to be cheating.
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Postby Risktaker17 on Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:07 am

Warsteiner definitely did not cheat. I have played games with him and Strakkebillen (or whatever his name is), and haven't suspected anything. So Johnny just shut up and grow up. Because War didn't cheat.
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Postby GManG on Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:12 am

less qq more pew pew
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Postby Warsteiner on Tue Jan 01, 2008 12:54 pm

I have almost nothing more to add to Poo Makers replies. JR you should play our games before you will understand how they work.

I was NOT on 3500 points when i was blocked. Check the dates of the congrats threads and the blocking date. THank you. I was on 2800 points.



as Poo said the first report was for talking another language. That rule was only RECENTLY added at that moment and I was clueless that that wasnt allowed really.

Sure BladiN is my doubles partner very often. And sure Hotdoggie is my partner often. And sure Masterkage777 is my partner often in doubs or trips. But as any other player I play against them in 6 player games fair.
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Postby Blitzaholic on Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:08 pm

jr if the cc mods let it go, perhaps you should?
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Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:51 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:jr if the cc mods let it go, perhaps you should?
they dint let it go. they blocked him. which means he was cheating with another player using secret alliances.

atleast Krusher took it like a man.
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Postby Warsteiner on Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:57 pm

come on.. read better what they said please ffs. I was blocked only cause i was reported twice. Of which one I had no clue off it wasnt allowed and once for something I did not do.

I must add to Poo Maker's remarks that in 6 player freestyle games (or 8 player) which we play.. there is a large sense of 'common sense' high ranked players/players that often play these games, wont bitch eachother for their bonus simply cause that is STUPID to do that in these games. That might look like an unspoken truce but it's not its common sense. I just checked Poo makers games.. He was hardly attacked in the first 6 rounds (3x totall) which was so called 'proof' for my block cause strakkebillen would not be attacking me.. well duh high ranked players like us hardly get attacked in the first rounds as I just said.

This isn't a defence against what you said JR, it's just for all that read this. So that we can get this bullshit of so called secret alliances in 6 -8 player freestyles to f*ck off.
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Postby Blitzaholic on Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:03 pm

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:jr if the cc mods let it go, perhaps you should?
they dint let it go. they blocked him. which means he was cheating with another player using secret alliances.

atleast Krusher took it like a man.


oh, i see

so, i am perplexed


he did cheat but they let him off, like they let the other guy off? :?
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Postby Warsteiner on Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:45 pm

no that wasnt the case, just read the topic in cheating&abuse forum and you'll know enough when seeing the replies of the mods.
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