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Postby Clive on Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:05 am

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt in regards to just being a noob, but your continously scummy and stupid actions make me want to ](*,) Cops can investigate me tonight either way since even though I'm protown, clive won't be a big loss on the chance that he is a townie.


You were willing to give me the benefit of the doubt? that's definitley not what you said
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Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:10 am

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:I'm also inclined to believe clive at this point although I still find him to be an idiot for that secret vote on himself. He would be worthy of an investigation if anyone has a cop ability. don't out yourselves this early though although Im sure there is at least one doctor in here maybe more as big as this game is. try to get another day or two investigations to report on before coming out if you can help it.


stating that you shouldn't be lynched today and should just be investigated was giving you the benefit of the doubt. Now I would rather just get your dumbass out the game as all you are doing is annoying me wtih your continous idiotic statements and comments now that your alpha dog was killed during the night so you actually have to think for yourself.
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Postby Clive on Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:19 am

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LSU Tiger Josh wrote:I'm also inclined to believe clive at this point although I still find him to be an idiot for that secret vote on himself. He would be worthy of an investigation if anyone has a cop ability. don't out yourselves this early though although Im sure there is at least one doctor in here maybe more as big as this game is. try to get another day or two investigations to report on before coming out if you can help it.


stating that you shouldn't be lynched today and should just be investigated was giving you the benefit of the doubt. Now I would rather just get your dumbass out the game as all you are doing is annoying me wtih your continous idiotic statements and comments now that your alpha dog was killed during the night so you actually have to think for yourself.


Lol, Cena wasn't scum, and it was only me and Reb that were right about him! I knew he was town and now you are trying to use that against me?
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Postby firth4eva on Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:28 am

unvote vote clive for not wanting to be investigated and other scummy behaviour.
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Postby nagerous on Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:50 am

Clive wrote:
LSU Tiger Josh wrote:
LSU Tiger Josh wrote:I'm also inclined to believe clive at this point although I still find him to be an idiot for that secret vote on himself. He would be worthy of an investigation if anyone has a cop ability. don't out yourselves this early though although Im sure there is at least one doctor in here maybe more as big as this game is. try to get another day or two investigations to report on before coming out if you can help it.


stating that you shouldn't be lynched today and should just be investigated was giving you the benefit of the doubt. Now I would rather just get your dumbass out the game as all you are doing is annoying me wtih your continous idiotic statements and comments now that your alpha dog was killed during the night so you actually have to think for yourself.


Lol, Cena wasn't scum, and it was only me and Reb that were right about him! I knew he was town and now you are trying to use that against me?



Lets see, Cena died in the night. What better way than to prove your innocence by killing the pro-town guy that was defending you. Also, makes all those who were attacking Cena look bad. Also, its a classic scum trick to defend townies making them look good later on in the game.
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Postby spiesr on Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:57 am

Clive wrote:I knew he was town and now you are trying to use that against me?
Well, that is the kind of thing mafia usually know...I am not going to vote for you yet though.
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Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:13 am

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Clive wrote:I knew he was town and now you are trying to use that against me?
Well, that is the kind of thing mafia usually know...I am not going to vote for you yet though.


actually it's the kind of thing anyone that has any experience at mafia would know.
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Postby Clive on Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:17 am

nagerous wrote:
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LSU Tiger Josh wrote:I'm also inclined to believe clive at this point although I still find him to be an idiot for that secret vote on himself. He would be worthy of an investigation if anyone has a cop ability. don't out yourselves this early though although Im sure there is at least one doctor in here maybe more as big as this game is. try to get another day or two investigations to report on before coming out if you can help it.


stating that you shouldn't be lynched today and should just be investigated was giving you the benefit of the doubt. Now I would rather just get your dumbass out the game as all you are doing is annoying me wtih your continous idiotic statements and comments now that your alpha dog was killed during the night so you actually have to think for yourself.


Lol, Cena wasn't scum, and it was only me and Reb that were right about him! I knew he was town and now you are trying to use that against me?



Lets see, Cena died in the night. What better way than to prove your innocence by killing the pro-town guy that was defending you. Also, makes all those who were attacking Cena look bad. Also, its a classic scum trick to defend townies making them look good later on in the game.


If I was mafia I had no way of knowing if he was town or 3rd party. I knew he was town from what he said.
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Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:18 am

Clive wrote:
nagerous wrote:
Clive wrote:
LSU Tiger Josh wrote:
LSU Tiger Josh wrote:I'm also inclined to believe clive at this point although I still find him to be an idiot for that secret vote on himself. He would be worthy of an investigation if anyone has a cop ability. don't out yourselves this early though although Im sure there is at least one doctor in here maybe more as big as this game is. try to get another day or two investigations to report on before coming out if you can help it.


stating that you shouldn't be lynched today and should just be investigated was giving you the benefit of the doubt. Now I would rather just get your dumbass out the game as all you are doing is annoying me wtih your continous idiotic statements and comments now that your alpha dog was killed during the night so you actually have to think for yourself.


Lol, Cena wasn't scum, and it was only me and Reb that were right about him! I knew he was town and now you are trying to use that against me?



Lets see, Cena died in the night. What better way than to prove your innocence by killing the pro-town guy that was defending you. Also, makes all those who were attacking Cena look bad. Also, its a classic scum trick to defend townies making them look good later on in the game.


If I was mafia I had no way of knowing if he was town or 3rd party. I knew he was town from what he said.


If you were mafia you wouldn't care one way or the other. You would just know that he wasn't in your scum group and as such you could proclaim him to be nonscum.
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Postby lord voldemort on Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:23 am

Skittles! wrote:Lucky? In what way?


you know with a girl :wink:
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Postby lord voldemort on Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:27 am

yo had a big nght, cant be arsed thinking about a vote count right now..but the double vote is on lsu...just so u know.

yer!!

anyway, im off with my lady now..

ps 3 some with reed or skoffin..or 4some :wink:
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Postby Clive on Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:30 am

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:
Clive wrote:
nagerous wrote:
Clive wrote:
LSU Tiger Josh wrote:
LSU Tiger Josh wrote:I'm also inclined to believe clive at this point although I still find him to be an idiot for that secret vote on himself. He would be worthy of an investigation if anyone has a cop ability. don't out yourselves this early though although Im sure there is at least one doctor in here maybe more as big as this game is. try to get another day or two investigations to report on before coming out if you can help it.


stating that you shouldn't be lynched today and should just be investigated was giving you the benefit of the doubt. Now I would rather just get your dumbass out the game as all you are doing is annoying me wtih your continous idiotic statements and comments now that your alpha dog was killed during the night so you actually have to think for yourself.


Lol, Cena wasn't scum, and it was only me and Reb that were right about him! I knew he was town and now you are trying to use that against me?



Lets see, Cena died in the night. What better way than to prove your innocence by killing the pro-town guy that was defending you. Also, makes all those who were attacking Cena look bad. Also, its a classic scum trick to defend townies making them look good later on in the game.


If I was mafia I had no way of knowing if he was town or 3rd party. I knew he was town from what he said.


If you were mafia you wouldn't care one way or the other. You would just know that he wasn't in your scum group and as such you could proclaim him to be nonscum.


I didn't say he was nonscum, I said he was town, and I said it quite forcefully because I was sure.
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Postby spiesr on Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:38 pm

Clive wrote:I didn't say he was nonscum, I said he was town.
Well saying I know i=this person to be nonscum would be pretty scummy, so of course a scum would not say it! But any way, do you think firth4eva is town?
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Postby Clive on Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:47 pm

spiesr wrote:
Clive wrote:I didn't say he was nonscum, I said he was town.
Well saying I know i=this person to be nonscum would be pretty scummy, so of course a scum would not say it! But any way, do you think firth4eva is town?


I don't know, he's submarining
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Postby ga7 on Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:51 pm

Man that was a lot to catch back on :?

spiesr wrote:
Skittles! wrote:Everyone does know that if Ga7 is lynched than Minister Masket would win if he is the lyncher? Just thought everybody should know..
Even if he did win, would that be so bad? He would be out of the game and no longer trying to get us to go after a non-mafia. It's not like the game would end with this many players...

Not only you would lose a pro-town player but Masket would be also out of the game. Only scum would benefit from it, it's like a mislynchƗ2. FOS Spiesr

About Masket, I'm not sure where to stand as it would be a weird coincidence for me to be his lynchee; though he might simply be a jester. The fact he admitted being a lyncher throws me off... If he's neither of that, I guess he might just play like shit as in several occasions in the past. :P Either way, I think it'd be a bit far fetched for him to play like that while being scum, so I'd say we got bigger fishes to fry.
If there is a backup vig though, and in such a big game I find it likely to have backup power roles, at this point he'd be a pretty good target for it. Obviously he's not an investigative role, I'm well placed to know that :P

About the whole Clive deal, first of all FOS Illy & Skittles for putting forward very questionable and far-fetched lines of thought IMO. Rebel could be a godfather, that's a fact, but to say Cena could be insane or influenced... And then the scum double-voter. Granted, Lovo is a new mod, but I don't think he'd be as silly as to give scum a power role that could benefit them so much.
On the other hand, there are arguments that do make Clive look scummy; the vote on himself (I know he explained it but I can't make sense out of it) and the fact he's actually worried about an investigation that could clear him. Sure, mafia framers do exist, but it's not that common a role either. Then I never got in the end of the previous day how he could be so sure Cena was town, and I still don't. This is the kind of moves I'd expect from a scum noob, so it might fit. However, all in all I think the double voting powers outweight my suspicions; and there's also the fact that someone I'm pretty sure is scum pushed for his lynch. And now to the good part...

*removes latex mask scoobydoo style* I'm the tracker. Last night I tracked Neut, he went to Cena's. Cena putted me in a dilemma with his deadtalking (and as a parenthesis, I don't think it's the first time you do it either, it pisses me off and is bad for the game is general, this kind of things could warrant a blacklist IMO), as since he was also roleblocked I didn't want to out the roleblocker by mistake. However, since I was suspicious of him before for his playing style (I remember several instances where he was laying low and scum, although this reason is not that good right now since he seems to have net troubles), and his pushing for Clive that I find more likely town noob at this point, and also the fact I'm not sure I can make it through another night, I prefer to take a shot. I'd hate to out the roleblocker, but I guess it's a 50% chance he's scum (or, going more far-fetched, scum roleblocker for that matter as Cena's claim seemed valid either way :P).

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Postby Clive on Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:00 pm

ga7 wrote:Man that was a lot to catch back on :?

spiesr wrote:
Skittles! wrote:Everyone does know that if Ga7 is lynched than Minister Masket would win if he is the lyncher? Just thought everybody should know..
Even if he did win, would that be so bad? He would be out of the game and no longer trying to get us to go after a non-mafia. It's not like the game would end with this many players...

Not only you would lose a pro-town player but Masket would be also out of the game. Only scum would benefit from it, it's like a mislynchƗ2. FOS Spiesr

About Masket, I'm not sure where to stand as it would be a weird coincidence for me to be his lynchee; though he might simply be a jester. The fact he admitted being a lyncher throws me off... If he's neither of that, I guess he might just play like shit as in several occasions in the past. :P Either way, I think it'd be a bit far fetched for him to play like that while being scum, so I'd say we got bigger fishes to fry.
If there is a backup vig though, and in such a big game I find it likely to have backup power roles, at this point he'd be a pretty good target for it. Obviously he's not an investigative role, I'm well placed to know that :P

About the whole Clive deal, first of all FOS Illy & Skittles for putting forward very questionable and far-fetched lines of thought IMO. Rebel could be a godfather, that's a fact, but to say Cena could be insane or influenced... And then the scum double-voter. Granted, Lovo is a new mod, but I don't think he'd be as silly as to give scum a power role that could benefit them so much.
On the other hand, there are arguments that do make Clive look scummy; the vote on himself (I know he explained it but I can't make sense out of it) and the fact he's actually worried about an investigation that could clear him. Sure, mafia framers do exist, but it's not that common a role either. Then I never got in the end of the previous day how he could be so sure Cena was town, and I still don't. This is the kind of moves I'd expect from a scum noob, so it might fit. However, all in all I think the double voting powers outweight my suspicions; and there's also the fact that someone I'm pretty sure is scum pushed for his lynch. And now to the good part...

*removes latex mask scoobydoo style* I'm the tracker. Last night I tracked Neut, he went to Cena's. Cena putted me in a dilemma with his deadtalking (and as a parenthesis, I don't think it's the first time you do it either, it pisses me off and is bad for the game is general, this kind of things could warrant a blacklist IMO), as since he was also roleblocked I didn't want to out the roleblocker by mistake. However, since I was suspicious of him before for his playing style (I remember several instances where he was laying low and scum, although this reason is not that good right now since he seems to have net troubles), and his pushing for Clive that I find more likely town noob at this point, and also the fact I'm not sure I can make it through another night, I prefer to take a shot. I'd hate to out the roleblocker, but I guess it's a 50% chance he's scum (or, going more far-fetched, scum roleblocker for that matter as Cena's claim seemed valid either way :P).

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Wow, that's a lot to take in. I actually don't think Iliad is mafia, because he wouldn't be pushing so hard for my lynch, because if I got lynched, it would just fire back on him when my role is revealed.

I can see nuetrino being mafia, as he tried to keep suspicion on me, but let Iliad push it alone.
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Postby Clive on Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:01 pm

Oh, and forgot to say, I think that's a very believeable claim, actually, ga7...
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Postby Minister Masket on Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:05 pm

What the...?

You were under almost no pressure at all ga7. Where did that role-claim come from? Are you trying to fool people with a fake-claim?
Everything you put there could be of your own making. At least put some thought into it.
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Postby spiesr on Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:32 pm

Well unvote vote Neutrino. Let's see what he has to say. If ga7 lied he will be lynched next.
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Postby spiesr on Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:33 pm

Minister Masket wrote:What the...?
You were under almost no pressure at all ga7.
Except for you lynchering all over him...
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Postby spiesr on Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:37 pm

UNVOTE VOTE GA7!
I just went back and checked something, and unless something really weird happen last night you did not track Neutrino. You had better fess up as to why you just lied!
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Postby Clive on Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:38 pm

spiesr wrote:UNVOTE VOTE GA7!
I just went back and checked something, and unless something really weird happen last night you did not track Neutrino. You had better fess up as to why you just lied!


And what might that be? Care to share?
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Postby ga7 on Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:38 pm

Minister Masket wrote:What the...?

You were under almost no pressure at all ga7. Where did that role-claim come from? Are you trying to fool people with a fake-claim?
Everything you put there could be of your own making. At least put some thought into it.

"Oh I found possible scum, what to do? Hmm, well I guess I'll just shut up and wait for them to kill me. Sounds good :D"
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Postby ga7 on Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:39 pm

spiesr wrote:UNVOTE VOTE GA7!
I just went back and checked something, and unless something really weird happen last night you did not track Neutrino. You had better fess up as to why you just lied!

What are you on about?
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Postby spiesr on Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:39 pm

Unless odd things happened with me last night you could not have tracked anyone!
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