How Ron Paul can win

[Der Fuhrer]

The war on terror is "a rumor of war". Yes, I know that 911 has succeeded in making people believe that terrorists are out to get us (I was one of them). The government and media have pulled off the biggest con of our time. But the facts tell a different story. In the words of George W. Bush, "You can fool some of the people all of the time and those are the one's you want to concentrate on".

You are perhaps the dumbest piece-of-shit liberal I have ever had the misfortune to read.

I am FAR from a liberal. Try the other end of the political spectrum.

You moron, your post is clearly in the liberal portion of the political spectrum.

[jay_a2j]

The war on terror is "a rumor of war". Yes, I know that 911 has succeeded in making people believe that terrorists are out to get us (I was one of them). The government and media have pulled off the biggest con of our time. But the facts tell a different story. In the words of George W. Bush, "You can fool some of the people all of the time and those are the one's you want to concentrate on".

You are perhaps the dumbest piece-of-shit liberal I have ever had the misfortune to read.

I am FAR from a liberal. Try the other end of the political spectrum.

You moron, your post is clearly in the liberal portion of the political spectrum.

No, you eloquent, well spoken sheep. There are many conservatives waking up to 911 truth. You have chosen to keep your blinders on as many others are doing and THAT is the only reason Ron Paul can not win.

[Serbia]

Sorry Jay, Paul is not a conservative.

[Der Fuhrer]

The war on terror is "a rumor of war". Yes, I know that 911 has succeeded in making people believe that terrorists are out to get us (I was one of them). The government and media have pulled off the biggest con of our time. But the facts tell a different story. In the words of George W. Bush, "You can fool some of the people all of the time and those are the one's you want to concentrate on".

You are perhaps the dumbest piece-of-shit liberal I have ever had the misfortune to read.

I am FAR from a liberal. Try the other end of the political spectrum.

You moron, your post is clearly in the liberal portion of the political spectrum.

No, you eloquent, well spoken sheep. There are many conservatives waking up to 911 truth. You have chosen to keep your blinders on as many others are doing and THAT is the only reason Ron Paul can not win.

I do not care if this Ron Paul wins or not, simply because I have not a clue who he is. Who gives a f*ck?

There is but one truth, 911 was an act of Islamic terrorism. Live with it, or shut the f*ck up.

[jay_a2j]

Sorry Jay, Paul is not a conservative.

rofl Ron Paul defines conservatism.

[jay_a2j]

There is but one truth, 911 was an act of Islamic terrorism. Live with it, or shut the f*ck up.[/color]

Do you hear the alarm going off? Time to wake up.....

[Serbia]

Sorry Jay, Paul is not a conservative.

rofl Ron Paul defines conservatism.

Wrong, Ronald Reagan defines conservatism, and Paul doesn't come close, especially on the military. Paul defines Libertarianism.

[Snorri1234]

1. He is against the National ID card. (I don't want to give up any more of my freedoms...and this card will have GPS)

I can digg that.

2. He is against the NAU (north American Union). (he is the only candidate speaking out against world government)

Yes because the other candidates don't actually believe there is one or even plans for it. (Or they're all catholics/satanists/alien lizard overlords.)

3. He wants to bring our troops home. (not just from Iraq but all over the world)

I can understand that, though I think that when you go somewhere to f*ck up a country, leaving it fucked up isn't very nice.

4. He wants to get rid of the IRS and many more needless or unconstitutional government agencies. (wow, NO federal income tax? Sounds like a plan to me)

That is if you assume that less taxes are always a good thing.

5. He wants government OUT of people's lives and go back to a nation that follows the Constitution of the United States.

What precisely do you mean with that? Does RP have any concrete plans for it, or is it just demagoguery?

6. He wants sound money, backed by something so it has worth.

Worst idea ever. There is not a single economist who thinks going back to the gold-standard is a good thing. (And they're not part of some conspiracy either.)

[jay_a2j]

Sorry Jay, Paul is not a conservative.

rofl Ron Paul defines conservatism.

Wrong, Ronald Reagan defines conservatism, and Paul doesn't come close, especially on the military. Paul defines Libertarianism.

Conservatism = LESS government. Ron Paul even wipes the table with Reagan.

[jay_a2j]

5. He wants government OUT of people's lives and go back to a nation that follows the Constitution of the United States.

What precisely do you mean with that? Does RP have any concrete plans for it, or is it just demagoguery?

6. He wants sound money, backed by something so it has worth.

Worst idea ever. There is not a single economist who thinks going back to the gold-standard is a good thing. (And they're not part of some conspiracy either.)[/quote]




5. Abolish the IRS, Department of Homeland Security, the Federal Reserve, Department of Education...etc.


6. So you'd rather have a currency that has no value...which is where the Dollar is headed. Currency that is backed by something is what gives it its worth. Right now our currency is backed by.....well, war.

[ignotus]

Only way Ron Paul can win is that all the other candidates get on a same plane one day before elections and the plane crashes.

And that's about to happen... ...well... ...NEVER!!!

[Der Fuhrer]

Only way Ron Paul can win is that all the other candidates get on a same plane one day before elections and the plane crashes.

And that's about to happen... ...well... ...NEVER!!!

You do have many fucking Muslims in the USA. It could happen. They made 9-11 happen. Don't count your chickens yet.

[Dancing Mustard]

Are you saying that all chickens are muslims? Or that all chickens are presidential candidates? I don't quite follow your thinking here...

[ignotus]

Only way Ron Paul can win is that all the other candidates get on a same plane one day before elections and the plane crashes.

And that's about to happen... ...well... ...NEVER!!!

You do have many fucking Muslims in the USA. It could happen. They made 9-11 happen. Don't count your chickens yet.

[jay_a2j]

Only way Ron Paul can win is that all the other candidates get on a same plane one day before elections and the plane crashes.

And that's about to happen... ...well... ...NEVER!!!

You do have many fucking Muslims in the USA. It could happen. They made 9-11 happen. Don't count your chickens yet.

The government never runs out of KOOL-AID!

[heavycola]

Only way Ron Paul can win is that all the other candidates get on a same plane one day before elections and the plane crashes.

And that's about to happen... ...well... ...NEVER!!!

You do have many fucking Muslims in the USA. It could happen. They made 9-11 happen. Don't count your chickens yet.

The government never runs out of KOOL-AID!

Jay, you are to kool-aid as obelix is to magic potion.

[Snorri1234]

5. Abolish the IRS, Department of Homeland Security, the Federal Reserve, Department of Education...etc.

I meant concrete plans as in; who is going to take over those responsibilties and how? I doubt just abolishing everything will have a positive effect on the economy.

6. So you'd rather have a currency that has no value...which is where the Dollar is headed. Currency that is backed by something is what gives it its worth. Right now our currency is backed by.....well, war.

I'd rather not be thrown into a crisis right now. The currency has value, because we all believe it does. Money is nothing but a way to make trading easier.

[got tonkaed]

not that a day is really a worthy snapshot, but im pretty sure the dollar is gaining a little bit back on the euro and the sterling, it seems like a lot of those things with currency work to balance themselves out.

Im not saying nothing needs to be done, but that it may not be dire straits as one may think.

[Iliad]

5. He wants government OUT of people's lives and go back to a nation that follows the Constitution of the United States.

What precisely do you mean with that? Does RP have any concrete plans for it, or is it just demagoguery?

6. He wants sound money, backed by something so it has worth.

Worst idea ever. There is not a single economist who thinks going back to the gold-standard is a good thing. (And they're not part of some conspiracy either.)

5. Abolish the IRS, Department of Homeland Security, the Federal Reserve, Department of Education...etc.


6. So you'd rather have a currency that has no value...which is where the Dollar is headed. Currency that is backed by something is what gives it its worth. Right now our currency is backed by.....well, war.

Cause America is so educated it doesn't need schools anyway?

[Coleman]

Because the Department of Education is obviously sucking hardcore and therefore doesn't need our tax dollars pouring into it since they aren't doing any good.

I'd rather buy federal fireworks, it'd do about as much for our education as the Department did, but at least we'd get to see something good for it.

[Iliad]

Now jay please read carefully. I want you to NOT show a random video but explain his points and explain why they are good

1. He is against the National ID card. (I don't want to give up any more of my freedoms...and this card will have GPS)

2. He is against the NAU (north American Union). (he is the only candidate speaking out against world government)

That's because he's the only one who's speaking about world government

3. He wants to bring our troops home. (not just from Iraq but all over the world)

How? Obviously he can't bring all of them back at the same time, it has to be a phase out

4. He wants to get rid of the IRS and many more needless or unconstitutional government agencies. (wow, NO federal income tax? Sounds like a plan to me)

5. He wants government OUT of people's lives and go back to a nation that follows the Constitution of the United States.

Jay why wouldn't Ron Paul would want to go back to a nation folllowing the Magna Carta?

6. He wants sound money, backed by something so it has worth.

Money isn't backed by anything. Money is backed by itself

[Neutrino]

Because the Department of Education is obviously sucking hardcore and therefore doesn't need our tax dollars pouring into it since they aren't doing any good.

I'd rather buy federal fireworks, it'd do about as much for our education as the Department did, but at least we'd get to see something good for it.

What's he planning on replacing it with? Presumably he's planning on replacing it with something, but then it ends up being an overhaul, not a abolishment.

[jay_a2j]

Because the Department of Education is obviously sucking hardcore and therefore doesn't need our tax dollars pouring into it since they aren't doing any good.

I'd rather buy federal fireworks, it'd do about as much for our education as the Department did, but at least we'd get to see something good for it.

What's he planning on replacing it with? Presumably he's planning on replacing it with something, but then it ends up being an overhaul, not a abolishment.

Ron Paul is about against all government run organizations. Schools, hospitals etc, etc, etc. When the government has its hands in things, it usually becomes sub-standard.

[Neutrino]

Because the Department of Education is obviously sucking hardcore and therefore doesn't need our tax dollars pouring into it since they aren't doing any good.

I'd rather buy federal fireworks, it'd do about as much for our education as the Department did, but at least we'd get to see something good for it.

What's he planning on replacing it with? Presumably he's planning on replacing it with something, but then it ends up being an overhaul, not a abolishment.

Ron Paul is about against all government run organizations. Schools, hospitals etc, etc, etc. When the government has its hands in things, it usually becomes sub-standard.

So what happens to education? Public education is gone. Private education will never work. Where does that leave education in the US...?

[jay_a2j]

Because the Department of Education is obviously sucking hardcore and therefore doesn't need our tax dollars pouring into it since they aren't doing any good.

I'd rather buy federal fireworks, it'd do about as much for our education as the Department did, but at least we'd get to see something good for it.

What's he planning on replacing it with? Presumably he's planning on replacing it with something, but then it ends up being an overhaul, not a abolishment.

Ron Paul is about against all government run organizations. Schools, hospitals etc, etc, etc. When the government has its hands in things, it usually becomes sub-standard.

So what happens to education? Public education is gone. Private education will never work. Where does that leave education in the US...?

Private schools would work, and be more competitive for good teachers, increasing test scores.