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Postby Catawbain on Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:22 am

Heimdall wrote:LOL, you have a point with the VS model.


Yeah :) I thought it spiced things up a bit as well ;-)
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Postby Robinette on Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:03 am

Incandenza wrote:According to your breakdown, wouldn't happy be in the 98th percentile?

And how can 51.51% of the players be in the 1st percentile?

Of course, it's entirely possible that I have no idea what I'm talking about. It has been a good long while since school, and whatever math knowledge I once possessed that hasn't been erased by time and beer has most likely been overwritten by Borat quotes, advanced escalating strategies, and various other ephemera. :lol:


lol... from kugs list i placed the percentile to the lowest score in each range.
Percentile's don't really work like that... that's why i made the other list.
And yes, happy is 99th percentile... but she's happy either way!!!

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A percentile is the value of a variable below which a certain percent of observations fall. So the 20th percentile is the value (or score) below which 20 percent of the observations may be found. The term percentile and the related term percentile rank are often used in descriptive statistics as well as in the reporting of scores from norm-referenced tests.
The 25th percentile is also known as the first quartile; the 50th percentile as the median.


By the way, the 50th percentile, or median, is 1018.

And the best part of my post was the short bus comment... did you miss that?
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Postby Incandenza on Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:13 am

Ah, I see now. I never was super-strong with medians and percentages and percentiles and what not. For some reason my brain does not work well with these concepts, which is odd since my brain tends to work well with most concepts... :lol:

If nothing else, I'm just glad that I, too, am in the 99th percentile.
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Postby Robinette on Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:24 am

still nothing on "the short bus" ? :-k

You and happy are among the 207 players that are in the 99th percentile
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Postby happy2seeyou on Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:25 am

Robinette put me as a " \:D/ " I am not going to disagree. :D

Robinette wrote:... but she's happy either way!!!


And this is true as well. :idea:

Edit.. I never rode a bus to school. :D
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Postby Robinette on Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:31 am

happy2seeyou wrote:Robinette put me as a " \:D/ " I am not going to disagree. :D

Robinette wrote:... but she's happy either way!!!


And this is true as well. :idea:

Edit.. I never rode a bus to school. :D


well i never rode the short bus!!!

anyway, you're like 24 points outside the 99th percentile now... you musta just lost a game...
when i was making that list you were spot on the 99th... it was like it was meant to be...
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Postby happy2seeyou on Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:34 am

Robinette wrote:
happy2seeyou wrote:Robinette put me as a " \:D/ " I am not going to disagree. :D

Robinette wrote:... but she's happy either way!!!


And this is true as well. :idea:

Edit.. I never rode a bus to school. :D


well i never rode the short bus!!!

anyway, you're like 24 points outside the 99th percentile now... you musta just lost a game...
when i was making that list you were spot on the 99th... it was like it was meant to be...


I just looked at my score as well.. must have lost a few games since I was over 2200 last I checked :| Oh well. :lol:
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Postby Incandenza on Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:45 am

Robinette wrote:still nothing on "the short bus" ? :-k

You and happy are among the 207 players that are in the 99th percentile


Is it a bad thing that I'm doing better on CC than I did on my SATs?

Fortunately for happy, it's impossible for her to do better here than she did on her SATs, because I have it on good authority that she is one of the breathtakingly few people that have managed to score an implausible 1700 on the venerable standardized exam. Conspiracy theorists speculate that she achieved that score by scribbling the solution to Fermat's Last Theorem in the margins of the basic algebra section.

(thankfully, I never rode the short bus, nor the long bus. Like courtney, my childhood commute to school was bus-free)
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Postby happy2seeyou on Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:47 am

Incandenza wrote:
Robinette wrote:still nothing on "the short bus" ? :-k

You and happy are among the 207 players that are in the 99th percentile


Is it a bad thing that I'm doing better on CC than I did on my SATs?

Fortunately for happy, it's impossible for her to do better here than she did on her SATs, because I have it on good authority that she is one of the breathtakingly few people that have managed to score an implausible 1700 on the venerable standardized exam. Conspiracy theorists speculate that she achieved that score by scribbling the solution to Fermat's Last Theorem in the margins of the basic algebra section.

(thankfully, I never rode the short bus, nor the long bus. Like courtney, my childhood commute to school was bus-free)


I was just going over my notes from John Nash, did I miss anything here? lol 8)
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Postby Incandenza on Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:51 am

happy2seeyou wrote:I was just going over my notes from John Nash, did I miss anything here? lol 8)


Why? Are you a delusional schizophrenic prone to seeing people that aren't there, like a college roommate, his little moppet of a niece, and a menacing Man in Black?

'Cause I think there might be medication for that.
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Postby happy2seeyou on Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:52 am

Incandenza wrote:
happy2seeyou wrote:I was just going over my notes from John Nash, did I miss anything here? lol 8)


Why? Are you a delusional schizophrenic prone to seeing people that aren't there, like a college roommate, his little moppet of a niece, and a menacing Man in Black?

'Cause I think there might be medication for that.


I was going over the OTHER notes from him.

seriously, lets not bring the roommate into this... he may go postal. Don't even get me started on the man in black.
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Postby Incandenza on Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:22 am

The niece is the most dangerous one. Didn't you ever see the first five minutes of the remake of Dawn of the Dead? Those supernatural kids go right for the throat.
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Postby Kugelblitz22 on Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:31 am

Guys if they find out I did sloppy research I might have to give the Nobel Prize back...

So what would be the correct term for my data sets, Octiles? No I think it should say interval instead of percentile, I had a momentary lapse of reason. I would go back and edit but then it would be more confusing...

Thanks for you nerdly knowledge. Robinette.
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Postby Jehan on Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:44 am

i resent the notion that 88% of us are either confused, sad or banging our heads against a wall, but otherwise interesting stats. :D
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Postby Kugelblitz22 on Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:51 am

Jehan wrote:i resent the notion that 88% of us are either confused, sad or banging our heads against a wall, but otherwise interesting stats. :D


Yet you can't argue with the emoticons. What's more scientific than that?
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Postby Robinette on Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:47 am

Incandenza wrote:
happy2seeyou wrote:I was just going over my notes from John Nash, did I miss anything here? lol 8)


Why? Are you a delusional schizophrenic prone to seeing people that aren't there, like a college roommate, his little moppet of a niece, and a menacing Man in Black?

'Cause I think there might be medication for that.


No Way... happy has "A Beautiful Mind"
2001, John Nash played by Russell Crow, directed by Ron Howard... and kudos to you for taking the time to read this
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Postby happy2seeyou on Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:49 am

Robinette wrote:
Incandenza wrote:
happy2seeyou wrote:I was just going over my notes from John Nash, did I miss anything here? lol 8)


Why? Are you a delusional schizophrenic prone to seeing people that aren't there, like a college roommate, his little moppet of a niece, and a menacing Man in Black?

'Cause I think there might be medication for that.


No Way... happy has "A Beautiful Mind"
2001, John Nash played by Russell Crow, directed by Ron Howard... and kudos to you for taking the time to read this


Great great movie!!! Had to bring it into the convo! How can we talk numbers without him?
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Postby Robinette on Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:04 am

happy2seeyou wrote:
Robinette wrote:
Incandenza wrote:
happy2seeyou wrote:I was just going over my notes from John Nash, did I miss anything here? lol 8)


Why? Are you a delusional schizophrenic prone to seeing people that aren't there, like a college roommate, his little moppet of a niece, and a menacing Man in Black?

'Cause I think there might be medication for that.


No Way... happy has "A Beautiful Mind"
2001, John Nash played by Russell Crow, directed by Ron Howard... and kudos to you for taking the time to read this


Great great movie!!! Had to bring it into the convo! How can we talk numbers without him?


It was a great movie... only saw it once, so i should watch it again
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Postby Night Strike on Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:21 am

Nice stats.

Also, I thought the SAT was out of 2400 now??? (Of course, I took the ACT a few years ago.)

And A Beautiful Mind is a very good movie. I had to do an interesting report over it as well for College Composition.
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Re: Man I'm bored.

Postby AAFitz on Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:48 am

Kugelblitz22 wrote:Percentile---------- Score range ---- People ---Percentage of Players
1st percentile ---- 3802-3339.5 ---- 4 ---------- 0.02% \:D/
2nd percentile ---- 3339.4-2877---- 13 --------- 0.06% 8)
3rd percentile ---- 2876-2414.5----- 66 -------- 0.32% :D
4th percentile ---- 2414.4-1952----- 375 ------- 1.80% :)
5th percentile ---- 1951-1489.5----- 1945 ------ 9.37% :|
6th percentile ---- 1489-1027------- 7542 ------ 36.34% :?
7th percentile ---- 1026-564.5------ 10689 ----- 51.51% :cry:
8th percentile ---- 564.5-102--------- 112 ------- 0.54% ](*,)

As you can see by this cross-categorical, cross referenced, double blind, random, scientific study most people are unhappy with the scoring system. 88.39% to be exact.


isnt this mostly what youd expect... and a great majority of those that you are assuming are unhappy with the system, are probably new players, that would naturally assume theyd have to work to get to the top...

also, youre assuming everyone cares about the score, when many do not... i like getting points as much as anyone, but the higher my score goes, the less fun I have, because it changes the games I have to play, so its very possible that a majority of the players arent actually unhappy with the system at all. Most are two new to have moved up, and freemiums especially can only play 4 games at a time so youd expect them to move slower through the ranks.

and im revoking your medal, because you have no evidence to support the happiness, you are simply assuming dissatisfaction, when there may indeed be none. If someone is unsatisfied with the system, they are actually just dissatisfied with their score. If they want, they can work to improve it, which takes work, sacrifice, patience, and luck, or not worry about it, and just have fun. I think actually your research has shown that the majority of the players are indifferent to the scoring system, and not unhappy with it.

I contend that your survey shows that the scoring is actually making people happy, new players are starting out with 1000 so they arent dissatisfied, 7500 are moving up another 2000 have done very well, and the rest struggle very hard to maintain and gain in the upper levels

You need to adjust this to be useful, because the people at 700-1200 are a totally different breed than those at 700 and below... at 700-1200 ill assume a great number are new players who are getting their feet wet, learning the ropes. Below 700, its probable that the players arent concerned with their score very much at all, and below 500, Its safe to say many are actually trying to keep their score at that level... certainly at 300 or so, this is a reasonable guess.

Everybody likes winning, but assuming everyone, especially the vast majority are only happy when they are, is probably not accurate.
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