Wine/Women/Song Mafia - Mafia win!

[Fircoal]

Speisr, you just edited your post, bro.

You are definitely scum.

and that is Proof HOW!?!?!?!?! Editing is a n00b thing, we've lynched many n00bs for editting and it comes about to the same as a random lynch. Sure, what he said before could be read the wrong way, but I think he may of meant from our view. Though none the less it could be a slip up.

[Fircoal]

Did you even get farther than that post, Fir?

My posting sytle is to read to a point until I find something to respond to. Which is why I Double+ post. I may forget things if I don't.

[Anarkistsdream]

Speisr, you just edited your post, bro.

You are definitely scum.

and that is Proof HOW!?!?!?!?! Editing is a n00b thing, we've lynched many n00bs for editting and it comes about to the same as a random lynch. Sure, what he said before could be read the wrong way, but I think he may of meant from our view. Though none the less it could be a slip up.

Fir is now defending him...

I think we have found our scum buddies, players... Hence Fir has submarined until it is time to come to someones defense.

[CrabNebula]

Speisr, you just edited your post, bro.

You are definitely scum.

and that is Proof HOW!?!?!?!?! Editing is a n00b thing, we've lynched many n00bs for editting and it comes about to the same as a random lynch. Sure, what he said before could be read the wrong way, but I think he may of meant from our view. Though none the less it could be a slip up.

Fir is now defending him...

I think we have found our scum buddies, players... Hence Fir has submarined until it is time to come to someones defense.

That we will figure out when either of them dies. For now, lets see what spiesr has to say in his defense.

[Fircoal]

Speisr, you just edited your post, bro.

You are definitely scum.

and that is Proof HOW!?!?!?!?! Editing is a n00b thing, we've lynched many n00bs for editting and it comes about to the same as a random lynch. Sure, what he said before could be read the wrong way, but I think he may of meant from our view. Though none the less it could be a slip up.

Fir is now defending him...

I think we have found our scum buddies, players... Hence Fir has submarined until it is time to come to someones defense.

-_- I'm taking the other side on the argument, because I don't think it's that scummy, espeically compared to you, and your baseless or baselittle accusations. And AD I'm posting now because I want to. And I can. As I said, I've been submarining in a lot of games and you know that. meh

[Fircoal]

Hence Fir has submarined until it is time to come to someones defense.

As I kinda said above. But would like to say clearer, is that I did pick to post now because of defening. While it is why I'm still posting now. I just picked to read it, more to defend myself against your accusations against me. And then I see that you try to go after Speisr with more little arguments. I think you're lynch-happy.

[The1exile]

Vote count

Fircoal: TWO (1)
Spiesr: CrabNebula, AD, firth4eva, ga7, MTG (5)
AD: Fircoal (1)

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch!

Deadline is approx 7:00 GMT on the 9th.

[Clive]

I would also like to hear spiesr's defense.

And Fircoal has a point about other people posting less, I believe Kwanton has the least, with 4 posts, and clearly stasting he has no intention of playing until day 3...I do not like this.

[Clive]

*stating

[Anarkistsdream]

Yes, but Clive, what you have to understand is that it is not because Fircoal has the LEAST, man. It is because he normally posts 6 to 7 times more than this. You can not compare posts vs. other players when other players are posting the amount they normally do.

[Fircoal]

Yes, but Clive, what you have to understand is that it is not because Fircoal has the LEAST, man. It is because he normally posts 6 to 7 times more than this. You can not compare posts vs. other players when other players are posting the amount they normally do.

WRONG! First of all you know lately I haven't been posting as much espeically in mafia games. Should I bring up the quote where you said I was submarining in all my games? So in actuallity, this is normal, (or was, but now I'm posting.) Anyway, also my posts in the whole forum have been going down, so your accusations are BASELESS!

[kwanton]

Haha! You guys forget kwan. Unlike fircoal submarining is actually part of my strategy.

Just ask ga7

[ga7]

Right. I also think AD's argument is pretty void; there's often little point in metagaming and even less when it's used to fit one's erroneous view. Lately Fir is acting like he's doing a last homage to PCM in regards to playing style
Kwan is Kwan, though it seems usually a good way to read him is to look at his voting record... (that and randomly accusing him)
Anyway, I still think we should go with Spiesr and reflect on all this based on the result.

[ga7]

Btw Spiesr, expecting a role & song claim in your next post. After the Spin non-claiming debacle, might be important.

[Clive]

AD: As you know this is my first public game, so all I have to go on for the subject of submarining, is post count in the game.

Kwan: I don't think much of that as a strategy, you should play, but as others have backed you up I believe this.

I am unsure about Fircoal, but his defense seems to cut it.

[Anarkistsdream]

Jesus Christ people... You are all talking about my argument AFTER I had already changed my vote due to Spiesr editing his post... GET WITH THE PROGRAM.

[Clive]

Why the sharp reaction? You still made the argument, just because you have abandoned it doesn't mean we can't talk about it...trying to cover something up, AD?

We can't move forward with your new vote until spiesr comes on.

[Anarkistsdream]

Why the sharp reaction? You still made the argument, just because you have abandoned it doesn't mean we can't talk about it...trying to cover something up, AD?

We can't move forward with your new vote until spiesr comes on.

Because there is no point in discussing something like that right now when there is something 1000 times more obvious jumping about.

Regardless of what he says, the fact is he changed his post. He EDITED it. One of the cardinal rules of mafia, and one that he is quite familiar for.

An inexperienced player like yourself is one thing, but when HE does it, that is something else entirely. Personally, I would have modkilled his ass. So, instead I will make a point to try and lynch him this whole game.

I also think that if he IS scum, it automatically forces Fir to be too.

[Clive]

I also think that if he IS scum, it automatically forces Fir to be too.

Why?

[Clive]

Yes, there is something more obvious, but we must wait for spiesr to come on.

This does not however make all other points of the game obsolete!

[spiesr]

First I did not edit that post!
I don't know if AD did that on purpose, or if he just made a mistake, but I wrote what my post says, not what he quoted. (Is he lyncher, or did he just make a mistake, you decide.) Think why would I make such a stupid edit when I know it would likely get me lynched? I am not really that dumb.
You want a roll claim, I am probably wasting my roll, but here it is: Tick Tick Boom (Bomb).

[Clive]

If you did not edit, then AD manually changed it.

[Clive]

However, you have some considerable vested interest, as you would probably be mod-killed if you admitted.

[spiesr]

Could a mod be able to tell if a post was edited, or do they not have anymore info than we do?

[Clive]

And also, we all know that if you edit before someone else posts (possibly a time limit on this too, not sure) then it doesn't say edited. So, if you did edit, it would be reasonable to think you could have got away with it.

(Sorry for triple post, keep thinking new stuff)