Hillary Clinton

[muy_thaiguy]

I suspect the law needs changing-as ther seem to ba an awful lot of illegals. Remember that laws are not necessarily good.

Yet some are essential. All, no, some, yes.

[Snorri1234]

Hmm. You know you can be a patrio and not be a conservative, yeah?
I am proud of my country (and I'm proud of the western tradition in general) but i'm left wing/liberal.
I like Billy Braggs phrase "Progressive patriotism".
So-hang out your stars and stripes, whilst opening up your borders, so more people can enjoy the US. Unless you are ashamed of your country, of course...

OPen the country to legals, yes. Illegals, HELLS no. That's an insult to legal immigrants who have come here, done the paperwork, waited their turn, and pay their taxes.

But with a system that actively discourages any immigrants who can't read or have no idea about paperwork, while simultanously being employed for a high (in relative terms) wage, is it any suprise you have illegal immigrants?

Your country should do more about the immigrants who could very well be a productive part of society by helping them get legal.

[Mr_Adams]

Did I say I support a state religion? NO!! I just don't like Hillary Clintons policiies, and want to know what the CCer's think.

Well what are we to think when you oppose Hilarry's policies because they are not Christian enough? It's fine if you attack them on other reasons, but why use the biblical argument?

Umm. DUH... I'm a Christian, I'm gonna base my political opinion on whether or not a candidate has policies that agree with my biblical belief.

[Snorri1234]

Did I say I support a state religion? NO!! I just don't like Hillary Clintons policiies, and want to know what the CCer's think.

Well what are we to think when you oppose Hilarry's policies because they are not Christian enough? It's fine if you attack them on other reasons, but why use the biblical argument?

Umm. DUH... I'm a Christian, I'm gonna base my political opinion on whether or not a candidate has policies that agree with my biblical belief.

Well sure, but wouldn't it be much more productive to argue about consequences and rational thought?

It's like the Universal Healthcare argument, you base your views on your unchanging beliefs instead of what would make the most sense. This is not about abortion or such that might get tricky. You're saying that you don't believe other people who don't actually believe in Christ should still be forced to listen to your bible. How is that not the definition of a law-system based on as state-religion?

[radiojake]

Did I say I support a state religion? NO!! I just don't like Hillary Clintons policiies, and want to know what the CCer's think.

Well what are we to think when you oppose Hilarry's policies because they are not Christian enough? It's fine if you attack them on other reasons, but why use the biblical argument?

Umm. DUH... I'm a Christian, I'm gonna base my political opinion on whether or not a candidate has policies that agree with my biblical belief.

And here it is folks!! The main problem with US politics today. Politicians chasing votes from people like Mr Adams!!

"Uhh gee golly. God don't like it when our womens have rights to choose what happens with their bodies, i gots to make sure i vote in god loving christian to be my president. HYUK!"

And ofcourse, gay marraige is so evil, how can I have forgotten that. Though i do think i remember hearing the US being 'the land of the free' ?? -

"Well not if you happen to be one of those gays HYUK!!! We not gonna let thems get married, god dont like it. HYUK. Lets chase em outta town with our pitchforks again. YEEEHAAAWWW"

[Mr_Adams]

ok effects of the things I don't support

Abortion- a way for teens pre-marital to get away with sex without consequences

Gay marriage- Another bad influence for the children of America.

Universal health care- another reason for lazy people to get away with not striving for better jobs and advancements in their own life. They complain about a tax defecate and then come up with unnecessary programs such as this.

Higher taxes decrease the flow of the economy, by raising prices (similar effects to inflation). This slow in the economy means less things to tax anyway!!!

[Mr_Adams]

Did I say I support a state religion? NO!! I just don't like Hillary Clintons policiies, and want to know what the CCer's think.

Well what are we to think when you oppose Hilarry's policies because they are not Christian enough? It's fine if you attack them on other reasons, but why use the biblical argument?

Umm. DUH... I'm a Christian, I'm gonna base my political opinion on whether or not a candidate has policies that agree with my biblical belief.

And here it is folks!! The main problem with US politics today. Politicians chasing votes from people like Mr Adams!!

"Uhh gee golly. God don't like it when our womens have rights to choose what happens with their bodies, i gots to make sure i vote in god loving christian to be my president. HYUK!"

And ofcourse, gay marraige is so evil, how can I have forgotten that. Though i do think i remember hearing the US being 'the land of the free' ?? -

"Well not if you happen to be one of those gays HYUK!!! We not gonna let thems get married, god dont like it. HYUK. Lets chase em outta town with our pitchforks again. YEEEHAAAWWW"

I also support death penalty to rapist and those who commit hate crimes!
I didn't say chase out the gays, I said don't let them marry. If your going to take things out of context, or add false pretexts, go become an American reporter for the liberal media.

[Heimdall]

Abortion- a way for teens pre-marital to get away with sex without consequences

Do you support abortion in rape cases?

Gay marriage- Another bad influence for the children of America.

No sure why exactly you say this is a bad influence. Studies say otherwise.

"Social science research has shown that parents' sexual orientation has no bearing on that of children, and that children of LGBT couples fare as well as other children in many objective measures; the American Psychological Association, Child Welfare League of America, American Academy of Pediatrics, and many other relevant professional organizations believe LGBT parents to be as qualified as heterosexuals."

[Snorri1234]

ok effects of the things I don't support

Abortion- a way for teens pre-marital to get away with sex without consequences

Hah yes, because abortions are without consequences. Not to mention that they generally don't cause any moral issues whatsoever on the people involved. Or the fact that most of the abortions peformed aren't by people who did take precautions but they failed.

Gay marriage- Another bad influence for the children of America.

"Well, since my friends are getting married to people of the same gender, I might as well. Forget about the fact that I'm actually attracted to the opposite gender, I wanna marry dudes!"

Universal health care- another reason for lazy people to get away with not striving for better jobs and advancements in their own life. They complain about a tax defecate and then come up with unnecessary programs such as this.

OH YES! Because ofcourse the people who advocate UHC are a bunch of lazy bastards who don't wanna get better and more paying jobs! I mean, there are millions of jobs that would give healthinsurance, and without them being kicked out of the system for various reasons that all amount to the fact the insurer doesn't want to pay for the costs.
I mean, it's not like universal health care would actually decrease the amount of money you pay because people would go to the doctor much earlier so that huge-money-consuming ER visits wouldn't be such a drain on the insurance-costs.

You're right, despite almost every European country having and universal health care and a thriving economy, the idea is just plain bollocks.

Higher taxes decrease the flow of the economy, by raising prices (similar effects to inflation). This slow in the economy means less things to tax anyway!!!

What?

[Mr_Adams]

Abortion- a way for teens pre-marital to get away with sex without consequences

Do you support abortion in rape cases?

Gay marriage- Another bad influence for the children of America.

No sure why exactly you say this is a bad influence. Studies say otherwise.

"Social science research has shown that parents' sexual orientation has no bearing on that of children, and that children of LGBT couples fare as well as other children in many objective measures; the American Psychological Association, Child Welfare League of America, American Academy of Pediatrics, and many other relevant professional organizations believe LGBT parents to be as qualified as heterosexuals."

In rape cases I don't support adoption, not abortion, unless the women's life is at stake. And I don't care what the Psychopatho-majiggy association say, their wrong.

[Snorri1234]

I also support death penalty to rapist and those who commit hate crimes!

I don't support the deathpenalty whatsoever. But that may be because getting executed costs way more for the government and the fact that sometimes the legal-system might make mistakes. (It's crazy, I know!)

I didn't say chase out the gays, I said don't let them marry. If your going to take things out of context, or add false pretexts, go become an American reporter for the liberal media.

Hah, I see a contradictio in terminis because all media is liberal. I mean, even Fox News clearly has a liberal bias.

[Frigidus]

ok effects of the things I don't support

Abortion- a way for teens pre-marital to get away with sex without consequences

Gay marriage- Another bad influence for the children of America.

Universal health care- another reason for lazy people to get away with not striving for better jobs and advancements in their own life. They complain about a tax defecate and then come up with unnecessary programs such as this.

Higher taxes decrease the flow of the economy, by raising prices (similar effects to inflation). This slow in the economy means less things to tax anyway!!!

Sex without consequences? <gasp> People might start thinking that sex is just a part of human nature rather than placing it on a pedestal as something more than just a mode of reproduction. The only argument against abortion is whether or not (and when at that) a fetus is considered alive.

Gay marriage is not a bad influence unless you label being gay as "bad", which is just a bad idea. Once again, we're treating sex like it's something holy. Besides, if being gay is allowed and living together as a gay couple is allowed, how will gay marriage push the boundaries? Shouldn't it be more a religious matter than a stately one as to whether two people are married?

Universal health care...well, arguments against this one at least have roots outside of ancient manuscripts. This one is fine by me.

1/3 is a 33%. You still beat xtratabasco (he has references everywhere else, and damn it, I'm not letting this thread dodge a bullet).

[Heimdall]

In rape cases I don't support adoption, not abortion, unless the women's life is at stake. And I don't care what the Psychopatho-majiggy association say, their wrong.

So you would force a woman or a young woman (say 14 years old) to go through pregnancy I have a baby and then giver the option of having it adopted?


Good to see that you know more about the children than all the specialists combined.

[Snorri1234]

Good to see that you know more about the children than all the specialists combined.

It's true. Abortion is nothing more than a convenient birth-control device. And rape-victims are generally asking for it anyway. They shouldn't put the child up for adoption even when they're like 15 and still have to finish school to be an actual boost to this economy.

[radiojake]

ok effects of the things I don't support

Abortion- a way for teens pre-marital to get away with sex without consequences

Yes, so it's obviously better for teen girls to go through pregnancy and raise a child it probably can't look after properly. Also, I'm sure noone actually thinks of abortion as a form of contraception. Oh yeah, and Pre-marital sex is so evil to. How about time and money spent of sex education and get the 'safe sex' message across. Abstinence isn't going to work because it's fucking stupid and against everyone's natural urges. Sex can be good! (bad too, yes) but we shouldn't have to wait til marraige because your god said so

Gay marriage- Another bad influence for the children of America.

"WONT SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!" -- What the f*ck is this call? Gay marraige a bad influence for children? This statement is so stupid I don't even know how to respond to it. You do realise homosexuality isn't 'contagious' or anything like that. You're either born straight or gay.

Universal health care- another reason for lazy people to get away with not striving for better jobs and advancements in their own life. They complain about a tax defecate and then come up with unnecessary programs such as this.

Wow, and you're a classist, too. Though that shouldn't surprise me. Hey, here's a thought. What if some people actually don't want to bust their balls to get a shitty job that they will hate? Who says you have to get a 'better' job to advance their own lives. Maybe I don't want to contribute to some motherfuckers multimillion dollar a year salary who made all their money by enslaving and oppressing the working force of a third world nation. Anything for a dollar, right? Mother fucker you make me sick

Higher taxes decrease the flow of the economy, by raising prices (similar effects to inflation). This slow in the economy means less things to tax anyway!!!

haha economy. The magic word. Coined to control the masses (just after God) - WATCH THOSE STOCKS, THE MARKET WILL CRASH. BUY BUY BUY SELL SELL- It doesn't exist, fucker. Just like God. Show me where it is.

I also support death penalty to rapist and those who commit hate crimes!

Oh, so mister self righteous Christian man here decided that sometimes it IS ok to kill people.?? What's the deal? I thought only God can decide when it's time for someone to die. Can someone say hypocrite.


Again, I close with a statement I mentioned earlier.


And here it is folks!! The main problem with US politics today. Politicians chasing votes from people like Mr Adams!!

[Heimdall]

It's true. Abortion is nothing more than a convenient birth-control device. And rape-victims are generally asking for it anyway. They shouldn't put the child up for adoption even when they're like 15 and still have to finish school to be an actual boost to this economy.

Took me a couple of seconds to figure out you were being sarcastic. There's hope after all

[pimphawks70]

Shes a hot women!

[pimphawks70]

just messing! I hate her!

[radiojake]

In rape cases I don't support adoption, not abortion, unless the women's life is at stake. And I don't care what the Psychopatho-majiggy association say, their wrong.

Psychopatho-majiggy association - Haha.. yes. They must be wrong. Let's trust the guy who is calling something the Psychopatho-majiggy association. Do you even know what you are talking about? I wasn't aware you were trained in the issue of unwanted teen pregnancy and rapes.

[Mr_Adams]

ok effects of the things I don't support

Abortion- a way for teens pre-marital to get away with sex without consequences

Gay marriage- Another bad influence for the children of America.

Universal health care- another reason for lazy people to get away with not striving for better jobs and advancements in their own life. They complain about a tax defecate and then come up with unnecessary programs such as this.

Higher taxes decrease the flow of the economy, by raising prices (similar effects to inflation). This slow in the economy means less things to tax anyway!!!

Sex without consequences? <gasp> People might start thinking that sex is just a part of human nature rather than placing it on a pedestal as something more than just a mode of reproduction. The only argument against abortion is whether or not (and when at that) a fetus is considered alive.

Gay marriage is not a bad influence unless you label being gay as "bad", which is just a bad idea. Once again, we're treating sex like it's something holy. Besides, if being gay is allowed and living together as a gay couple is allowed, how will gay marriage push the boundaries? Shouldn't it be more a religious matter than a stately one as to whether two people are married?

Universal health care...well, arguments against this one at least have roots outside of ancient manuscripts. This one is fine by me.

1/3 is a 33%. You still beat xtratabasco (he has references everywhere else, and damn it, I'm not letting this thread dodge a bullet).

Sex in a civilized society! It's not like this is some deep jungle wilderness, where instincts rule all, we even have laws against pre-marital sex in some states! Sex is to be had by married couples, Thats the way Isee it. I thought the free love movement ended in the 90's.

[radiojake]

Sex in a civilized society! It's not like this is some deep jungle wilderness, where instincts rule all, we even have laws against pre-marital sex in some states! Sex is to be had by married couples, Thats the way Isee it. I thought the free love movement ended in the 90's.

Well you're just a killjoy, arn't you. Have fun in your future shitty marraige that will only come about from the fact you will be so goddam horny and have a raging case of blue balls that you'll end up getting hitched the first girl who seems even slightly interested just so you can get laid. Then after that you can have the next 50 years living in misery because you arn't allowed to get divorced. HA!

[Heimdall]

Or maybe it's time to come out of the closet Mr. Adams

[Snorri1234]

Sex in a civilized society! It's not like this is some deep jungle wilderness, where instincts rule all, we even have laws against pre-marital sex in some states! Sex is to be had by married couples, Thats the way Isee it. I thought the free love movement ended in the 90's.

Nah man, it's still upheld by rational people. Those motherfuckers make me sick with their non-referring to the bible!

[radiojake]

Sex in a civilized society! It's not like this is some deep jungle wilderness, where instincts rule all

You do realise we are animals, right?

[Heimdall]

Sex is to be had by married couples, Thats the way I see it.

I didn't say chase out the gays, I said don't let them marry.

So are you against gays having sex too?