Should we switch to alternative sources of energy?

[mr. incrediball]

Just because you hold a grudge against me does not authorize you to call me 'dumbshit'. If Madam Curie could isolate Radium, then we can definitely isolate or create new Uranium. Nuclear waste could be jettisoned or recycled (jettisoned being more reasonable).

I chose nuclear because I was split between solar and nuclear and decided to go with whatever I put first. Nuclear is a reliable energy source. Safety measures set up now make nuclear meltdowns virtually impossible. A new type of reactor (there will be more) called a Breeder Reactor increases nuclear power efficiency from 30 percent to 70.

And what happens when one (and will) fail....we all die and the place is unihabbitle for YEARS!

We won't die. It would take dozens of simultaneous meltdowns for that to occur. If there are meltdowns, that is the governments' fault. Russia's Chernobyl accident was because of mismanagement of the nuclear power plant and the officials running the plant allowing coal workers to run tests with the power plant (dumb isn't it?)

One WILL fail no matter what you say...it may not be today, tomarrow or in 30 years but one day it will fail. We all die was sarcastic but many people will and the place of the meltdown will become inhabitalle for YEARS. Now do you want that to happen?

If you don't think it will happen name 1, just 1 human machine that has never been faulty....ever.

Have you ever heard of nuclear power stations in space?

um... your point?

[Chris7He]

Who the f*ck voted for coal? Well... you can't throw that one out. Coal is believed to last for another 100 years if we switch now or 500 years if we continue the same level of energy consumption. Illinois promotes the use of coal as a renewable resource (zero-emissions coal plants). I did a paper on coal (I live in Illinois)

[Chris7He]

Have you ever heard of nuclear power stations in space?

um... your point?

My point being that a failed nuclear power station will not affect us do to the electromagnetic energy field created by our rotating core (not a reference to the movie).

[mr. incrediball]

Have you ever heard of nuclear power stations in space?

um... your point?

My point being that a failed nuclear power station will not affect us do to the electromagnetic energy field created by our rotating core (not a reference to the movie).

...you sure you're 13?

[Chris7He]

Have you ever heard of nuclear power stations in space?

um... your point?

My point being that a failed nuclear power station will not affect us do to the electromagnetic energy field created by our rotating core (not a reference to the movie).

...you sure you're 13?

Whatever do you mean? It's ironic how I can't tell a good story, but I can be a very persuasive person (in writing a paper).

The sun's radiation is blocked out by two layers of defense. The first being the Earth's (against the sun's electromagnetic radiation)electromagnetic field and the second (against ultraviolet light) being the ozon layer.

The sun also protects us from more radiation. The sun generates a huge shield that protects us from radiation carried by the solar winds.

[soundout9]

Have you ever heard of nuclear power stations in space?

um... your point?

My point being that a failed nuclear power station will not affect us do to the electromagnetic energy field created by our rotating core (not a reference to the movie).

...you sure you're 13?

Whatever do you mean? It's ironic how I can't tell a good story, but I can be a very persuasive person (in writing a paper).

The sun's radiation is blocked out by two layers of defense. The first being the Earth's (against the sun's electromagnetic radiation)electromagnetic field and the second (against ultraviolet light) being the ozon layer.

The sun also protects us from more radiation. The sun generates a huge shield that protects us from radiation carried by the solar winds.

First off how can the sun protect us from solar winds it creates
Second, our electromagnetic sheild is getting weaker....
Third, so you are willing to let the people working on the powerplant in space to die if it does fail?
Fourth, How are you going to get power from a powerplant in space to the Earth?

[soundout9]

If you don't think it will happen name 1, just 1 human machine that has never been faulty....ever.

the playstation 3

maybe not yours but i'm sure there has been one that has overheated and/or broke.

[The1exile]

Wind power ftw.



Also, offshore is the way to go.

[Chris7He]

First off how can the sun protect us from solar winds it creates
Second, our electromagnetic sheild is getting weaker....
Third, so you are willing to let the people working on the powerplant in space to die if it does fail?
Fourth, How are you going to get power from a powerplant in space to the Earth?

1.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliosphere- that's as easy as I'd explain it.

2. The electromagnetic shield is only about to flip as it does every few millenia. It is expected to come down to it's lowest point by our great great grandchildrens' lifetime (if you manage to have children). During that time, cancer rates will triple or double(if we're still smoking), but not pose a very serious threat.

3. Of course, there is a thing called robots and we could probably use robots to do our work.

4. You don't understand how power and messages are transferred do you? You need to read up on electrons.

[Chris7He]

If you don't think it will happen name 1, just 1 human machine that has never been faulty....ever.

the playstation 3

maybe not yours but i'm sure there has been one that has overheated and/or broke.

What about a mouse trap? With all the new innovations, we start thinking more about expanding with godspeed rather than trying to fix the bugs. Simple inventions usually tend to fail less (of course all old things will malfunction at some point).

[soundout9]

First off how can the sun protect us from solar winds it creates
Second, our electromagnetic sheild is getting weaker....
Third, so you are willing to let the people working on the powerplant in space to die if it does fail?
Fourth, How are you going to get power from a powerplant in space to the Earth?

1.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliosphere- that's as easy as I'd explain it.

2. The electromagnetic shield is only about to flip as it does every few millenia. It is expected to come down to it's lowest point by our great great grandchildrens' lifetime (if you manage to have children). During that time, cancer rates will triple or double(if we're still smoking), but not pose a very serious threat.

3. Of course, there is a thing called robots and we could probably use robots to do our work.

4. You don't understand how power and messages are transferred do you? You need to read up on electrons.

1. wikipedia is not a reliable source
2. Dont get smart with me....i will have more kids than you
3. what happens when the robots fail? (now your going sci-fi which only nerds that belive star wars is really belive that shit)
4.I'm older than you...i know how fucking electrons work. But what is your plan for getting energy from space to earth? mmmmmmmm?

[Chris7He]

First off how can the sun protect us from solar winds it creates
Second, our electromagnetic sheild is getting weaker....
Third, so you are willing to let the people working on the powerplant in space to die if it does fail?
Fourth, How are you going to get power from a powerplant in space to the Earth?

1.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliosphere- that's as easy as I'd explain it.

2. The electromagnetic shield is only about to flip as it does every few millenia. It is expected to come down to it's lowest point by our great great grandchildrens' lifetime (if you manage to have children). During that time, cancer rates will triple or double(if we're still smoking), but not pose a very serious threat.

3. Of course, there is a thing called robots and we could probably use robots to do our work.

4. You don't understand how power and messages are transferred do you? You need to read up on electrons.

1. wikipedia is not a reliable source
2. Dont get smart with me....i will have more kids than you
3. what happens when the robots fail? (now your going sci-fi which only nerds that belive star wars is really belive that shit)
4.I'm older than you...i know how fucking electrons work. But what is your plan for getting energy from space to earth? mmmmmmmm?

1.Wikipedia has many other sources. Check them, fucking moron. Wikipedia is unreliable at times, but her sources are usually pretty water tight and rely on many government websites.

PS- You are an idiot. This has also been taught at my school and is on many science shows like NOVA. You're belief in the electromagnetic field, but not in the heliosphere indicates you're idiocy.

2.That is not relevant.
3.Japan has plenty of robots that do things that humans do.
4.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_energy_transfer (may not work, but there are alternatives) and... oh yes... Bush is older than me, but I know how to read

[Chris7He]

Oh yeah, there is also something called a space elevator that has already been planned and looked into. It's actually pretty practical and if built, wires could be linked from satellites to the elevator if wireless energy transfer fails.

[soundout9]

Oh yeah, there is also something called a space elevator that has already been planned and looked into. It's actually pretty practical and if built, wires could be linked from satellites to the elevator if wireless energy transfer fails.

You think your so goddam smart....well guess what "buddy" your not the only one that watches national geographic and the discovery channel and the history channel.

Thank you for informing me on info i already knew about.

BTW....GFY and stop making bullshit threads. this one is a good one but your arguement sucks.

[got tonkaed]

I guess i feel like nuclear still has some inherent risks involved to it. Though we certainly can improve technology to mediate these risks to a degree, i have yet to really come across too many things thus far which suggest we have. Seemingly theres still a pretty large amount of waste, which at the moment we are struggling to find uses for, or storage space. Frankly the idea that we would put everything into a mountain (which was proposed by some) doesnt seem like a safe enough solution for what we are talking about. And yet if this is what we are proposing you have to wonder if there really are widespread usable situations.

We do in a lot of ways have to look at how we consume and what some of the other options are. I guess ill be a bit of a downer but i cant really go along for one more effecient source of energy, because we need to perhaps be looking at alternative forces for a variety of different forms of consumption. For me at least, fuel seems to be almost a more pressing concern than energy does because in a lot of ways i feel like the technologies that could solve some of the alternative fuel problems are likely to be transferrable to wider energy solutions. Clearly both need to be worked on, but when we find ways to make alternative fuel sources practical, we can begin to push for alternative energy on the public level that we are pushing for alternative fuel.

[got tonkaed]

Oh yeah, there is also something called a space elevator that has already been planned and looked into. It's actually pretty practical and if built, wires could be linked from satellites to the elevator if wireless energy transfer fails.

I think the problem with the space elevator is we really arent approaching being capable of a production of something with that kind of cost behind it. I dont think i remember any kind of specific numbers, but you are talking about a project that we simply cannot fund right now, on a large scale.

[Chris7He]

Oh yeah, there is also something called a space elevator that has already been planned and looked into. It's actually pretty practical and if built, wires could be linked from satellites to the elevator if wireless energy transfer fails.

You think your so goddam smart....well guess what "buddy" your not the only one that watches nation geographic and the discovery channel and the history channel.

Thank you for informing me on info i already knew about.

BTW....GFY and stop making bullshit threads. this one is a good one but your arguement sucks.

Ah, but why have you not spoken about my previous 1,2,3,4 points? You are a dodgy debater aren't you?

I don't think I'm that smart, but I do pride myself with debating the wind out of ignorants, fools, and idiots like you. This was on PBS as well. IF you already KNEW about IT then why did you argue against me?

[Chris7He]

Oh yeah, there is also something called a space elevator that has already been planned and looked into. It's actually pretty practical and if built, wires could be linked from satellites to the elevator if wireless energy transfer fails.

I think the problem with the space elevator is we really arent approaching being capable of a production of something with that kind of cost behind it. I dont think i remember any kind of specific numbers, but you are talking about a project that we simply cannot fund right now, on a large scale.

It's something we need to work on in the future. I'm sure we will find a way soon.

[soundout9]

Oh yeah, there is also something called a space elevator that has already been planned and looked into. It's actually pretty practical and if built, wires could be linked from satellites to the elevator if wireless energy transfer fails.

You think your so goddam smart....well guess what "buddy" your not the only one that watches nation geographic and the discovery channel and the history channel.

Thank you for informing me on info i already knew about.

BTW....GFY and stop making bullshit threads. this one is a good one but your arguement sucks.

Ah, but why have you not spoken about my previous 1,2,3,4 points? You are a dodgy debater aren't you?

I don't think I'm that smart, but I do pride myself with debating the wind out of ignorants, fools, and idiots like you. This was on PBS as well. IF you already KNEW about IT then why did you argue against me?

What am i arguing about? did i ever say that a elavtor to space has never been devolped or looked at ummmmm NO!

i'm done arguing with your bullshit cause your like xtra your just going to keep saying the same thing that is worthless.

[got tonkaed]

Oh yeah, there is also something called a space elevator that has already been planned and looked into. It's actually pretty practical and if built, wires could be linked from satellites to the elevator if wireless energy transfer fails.

I think the problem with the space elevator is we really arent approaching being capable of a production of something with that kind of cost behind it. I dont think i remember any kind of specific numbers, but you are talking about a project that we simply cannot fund right now, on a large scale.

It's something we need to work on in the future. I'm sure we will find a way soon.

it may be something that could be worked on in the future but i wonder....what would have to be sacrificed as an expense. You are talking about a project that multiple nations would have to be very involved in. Just the trip to mars (another pretty difficult endeavor) is essentially taking coalitions of all of the developed world, since no one nation can fund that.

When you talk about the size and the numerous structural and safety measures that would have to be taken, you are talking about something that will be almost crippling to the world economy if it fails. And this money would be taken away from things that really should be done before then, such as in many cases money that would be invested in alternative energy sources. This is to not even mention there probably would require relative periods of peace, and we really should be spending money on curing some epidemic illnesses and raising people above the extreme poverty line if such a time of peace ever occured.

Its just not feasible in the next 50 to 100 years imo.

[soundout9]

Oh yeah, there is also something called a space elevator that has already been planned and looked into. It's actually pretty practical and if built, wires could be linked from satellites to the elevator if wireless energy transfer fails.

I think the problem with the space elevator is we really arent approaching being capable of a production of something with that kind of cost behind it. I dont think i remember any kind of specific numbers, but you are talking about a project that we simply cannot fund right now, on a large scale.

It's something we need to work on in the future. I'm sure we will find a way soon.

it may be something that could be worked on in the future but i wonder....what would have to be sacrificed as an expense. You are talking about a project that multiple nations would have to be very involved in. Just the trip to mars (another pretty difficult endeavor) is essentially taking coalitions of all of the developed world, since no one nation can fund that.

When you talk about the size and the numerous structural and safety measures that would have to be taken, you are talking about something that will be almost crippling to the world economy if it fails. And this money would be taken away from things that really should be done before then, such as in many cases money that would be invested in alternative energy sources. This is to not even mention there probably would require relative periods of peace, and we really should be spending money on curing some epidemic illnesses and raising people above the extreme poverty line if such a time of peace ever occured.

Its just not feasible in the next 50 to 100 years imo.

We are not in star wars so you can stop with the BS that we can make a nuclear powerplant in space run by robots

and got tonkaed proves my point

[got tonkaed]

oh dont get me wrong....i think a space elevator could be built. People would be able to come up with the tech and the designs, but the costs and risks of such a thing would be so astronomical it would not be even close to be practically feasible for it to be done.

And it seems like the backwards way to go for space exploration. You need to be able to make sure you can make a colony before you put up something like that.

[Chris7He]

Oh yeah, there is also something called a space elevator that has already been planned and looked into. It's actually pretty practical and if built, wires could be linked from satellites to the elevator if wireless energy transfer fails.

I think the problem with the space elevator is we really arent approaching being capable of a production of something with that kind of cost behind it. I dont think i remember any kind of specific numbers, but you are talking about a project that we simply cannot fund right now, on a large scale.

It's something we need to work on in the future. I'm sure we will find a way soon.

it may be something that could be worked on in the future but i wonder....what would have to be sacrificed as an expense. You are talking about a project that multiple nations would have to be very involved in. Just the trip to mars (another pretty difficult endeavor) is essentially taking coalitions of all of the developed world, since no one nation can fund that.

When you talk about the size and the numerous structural and safety measures that would have to be taken, you are talking about something that will be almost crippling to the world economy if it fails. And this money would be taken away from things that really should be done before then, such as in many cases money that would be invested in alternative energy sources. This is to not even mention there probably would require relative periods of peace, and we really should be spending money on curing some epidemic illnesses and raising people above the extreme poverty line if such a time of peace ever occured.

Its just not feasible in the next 50 to 100 years imo.

We are not in star wars so you can stop with the BS that we can make a nuclear powerplant in space run by robots

and got tonkaed proves my point

They already found a substance (it can't be made longer than a few inches), that can be used for the space elevator. The elevator is to run on solar power. Technology and research is advancing at an astronomical rate. Who's to say we won't discover faster than light travel within the next two hundred years?

BTW, no one ruled out the wireless energy transfer theory?

[Chris7He]

oh dont get me wrong....i think a space elevator could be built. People would be able to come up with the tech and the designs, but the costs and risks of such a thing would be so astronomical it would not be even close to be practically feasible for it to be done.

And it seems like the backwards way to go for space exploration. You need to be able to make sure you can make a colony before you put up something like that.

I suggested it has an alternative to wireless energy transfer. Trying to build a space elevator is like trying to build a lightsaber (it's not pratical). The idea behind it is to increase space tourism. A company funding it's creation proved that so far, it cannot be done, but it may be built within our childrens' lifetimes.

[NESconqueror]

I say solar is most practical.... I wonder if there is any cloud cover at the summit of mt everest?