Noob proofing CC

by **Angus Khan** on Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:02 pm

Ok, I was a ? player once myself, and I respect and appreciate that I got to play with the big boys. But come on, there are SO MANY new players who register, start a game and NEVER COME BACK. What a nuisance.

Someone else in a game suggested that the question marks should only be allowed to play with each other. This would be trivial to program. Once you get thru your initial games you'll be whatever rank and then can play with everyone else. Otherwise, it just ruins public games and we end up with two conquer clubs, one played in 'secret' and one played in public.

Just my 2 cents worth, and I suppose you want change with that?

by **millertime13** on Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:04 pm

yes, definitely.

And an eject button for morons would be great too.

by **Optimus Prime** on Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:14 pm

Yeah......not such a great idea.

by **hecter** on Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:17 pm

No, they already aren't allowed to play team games with us "big boys", which I was against, and now you're saying that they aren't allowed to play with us at all. We want to welcome new members, not tell them they can't play with over half the CC population.

by **hwhrhett** on Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:18 pm

if they were forced to play only ?'s then player retention would drop ridiculously because ppl would assume that deadbeating is a much bigger problem than it is and would want to stay.

by **Herakilla** on Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:20 pm

hecter wrote:No, they already aren't allowed to play team games with us "big boys", which I was against, and now you're saying that they aren't allowed to play with us at all. We want to welcome new members, not tell them they can't play with over half the CC population.

my thoughts exactly.

by **Jgood** on Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:24 pm

when I recruit new players, I would not be allowed to play them????

by **Rocketry** on Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:03 pm

*rejected*

by **Angus Khan** on Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:16 pm

hecter wrote:No, they already aren't allowed to play team games with us "big boys", which I was against, and now you're saying that they aren't allowed to play with us at all. We want to welcome new members, not tell them they can't play with over half the CC population.

Since when aren't they allowed in team games? I have had several in team games with ME and that's what got me thinking about this. Or is this some VERY recent change I don't know about? A quick perusal of joinable games shows several ?'s in team games, so just what are you talking about Hecter?

by **Herakilla** on Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:18 pm

its been that way for a LONG time now....

by **Herakilla** on Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:19 pm

i just checked join a game, a whole page of team games and not ONE new recruit? point us toward these recruits in team games so we can report a bug

by **hecter** on Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:21 pm

Angus Khan wrote:
hecter wrote:No, they already aren't allowed to play team games with us "big boys", which I was against, and now you're saying that they aren't allowed to play with us at all. We want to welcome new members, not tell them they can't play with over half the CC population.

Since when aren't they allowed in team games? I have had several in team games with ME and that's what got me thinking about this. Or is this some VERY recent change I don't know about? A quick perusal of joinable games shows several ?'s in team games, so just what are you talking about Hecter?

They can't join team games. They can start them, but not join them.
http://www.conquerclub.com/public.php?p ... tructions4

Instructions wrote:New Recruits must earn a promotion to join public team games (they will otherwise be hidden from Join A Game and Game Finder listings).

by **khellendros** on Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:33 pm

I would like to add assasin games to the things noobs cannot join, because any deadbeat in an assasin game really throws the whole thing off.

by **wacicha** on Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:58 pm

New people will always be allowed... I am a firm advocate of the new --- If you have problems with them then GO AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by **Herakilla** on Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:01 pm

wacicha wrote:New people will always be allowed... I am a firm advocate of the new --- If you have problems with them then GO AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

amen

by **jiminski** on Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:06 pm

wacicha wrote:New people will always be allowed... I am a firm advocate of the new --- If you have problems with them then GO AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Listen to Wac!

find some magnificence in your souls and remember what it was like on your first day of school!

Perhaps then you may avoid always following the path too often trod... Perhaps then you can avoid becoming who you hated on that first day of school.

by **flexmaster33** on Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:37 pm

It takes awhile to figure out how the CC rules and games work...just be patient with the newbies. Some will try it out, not like it and leave, but many more will learn the ropes and be long-time members. By playing against more experienced players, they have the opportunity to learn the ropes faster. I appreciated all the tips and strategies I absorbed when I first came on here several months ago and now I'm hooked.

I always open myself up to answer questions any time I'm facing a question mark. It's not like it happens that terribly often. If you want to avoid the ?s use the Join a Game feature and only join against more experienced players.

by **Angus Khan** on Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:46 pm

Geeze, you guys would think I was talking about illegal immigration

Ok, the mob has spoken. I'll admit the game in question is one where a bunch of ?'s joined US, apparently before the new rule went into effect. Naturally they ALL deadbeated the whole game, making it a drag on the rest of us. Also since I play a lot of standard games, the ?'s join AFTER I do, making it difficult to avoid them. My worst was a game with 3 ?'s who ALL deadbeated the whole game (I think I was green that game, so they all came afterwards).

How about this, the deadbeat rule is accelerated when the player is a question mark?

by **wcaclimbing** on Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:06 pm

that would help.

accelerating it would help a lot.

by **oVo** on Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:16 pm

Noobs are a part of the system and many of the (?)s actually play quite well.
I'd rather see players booted from the game if they miss their first turn.

by **misterman10** on Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:19 pm

Optimus Prime wrote:Yeah......not such a great idea.

by **Scott-Land** on Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:53 am

oops double post-- grr internet. sorry

by **Scott-Land** on Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:16 am

I've got an idea- I'll noob proof myself from you Angus Khan. Oh wait you weren't talking about all noobs. Just :?:

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by **Catawbain** on Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:40 am

Why not take it from a noobs perspective?

I can fill you guys in on that btw ^.^

Sure, it's a pain in the rear to get whooped by someone with a much better strategy then you. HOWEVER, It's a learning experience, you notice what the better players are doing you either figure out a way to counter it or mimic it

As for dead-beating noobers, why stick them all in one spot so it turns into an even bigger problem? Personally I don't want to get into a game, get 3 turns in and then realize i'm the only one ACTUALLY playing. Having maybe just one dead-beater in a game is a little less dramatic.

If you still feel that it's such a horrible thing, why not improvise? Perhaps have OPTIONAL ( keyword here lol ) settings for the lowest rank that can join a game? That way if you don't want to play with the newbies, you don't have to. ( Were not that bad though, are we? )

<3 Wacicha

by **Skittles!** on Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:45 am

I for one like deadbeats and newbs. Makes me take turns more spaced out, and I don't like working my brain. yes, I'm lazy, but eh.

Noob proofing CC

Should question marks only be allowed to play each other?

Noob proofing CC

not allowed in team games?

Re: not allowed in team games?

Newbies are fine

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