Is Star Wars a Prophecy?

[mr. incrediball]

the only symbolism in star wars is a crappy political commentary

Starwars is a rip off of Rome becoming an Empire instead of a Republic

"rip off" is such a strong phrase...

i like to think he "enchanted" the story.

oh, and dagip, of course it's not a coincidence.

it's called INSPIRATION

INSPIRATION = 1% Purely creative thought and 99% thievery!

so? still doesn't make it a prophesy.

[Minister Masket]

the only symbolism in star wars is a crappy political commentary

Starwars is a rip off of Rome becoming an Empire instead of a Republic

Odd. I don't see any similarities between the Rebel Alliance and the barbarian hoardes myself.

[DaGip]

the only symbolism in star wars is a crappy political commentary

Starwars is a rip off of Rome becoming an Empire instead of a Republic

Odd. I don't see any similarities between the Rebel Alliance and the barbarian hoardes myself.

Future BaBarian Hordes...FUtUre...

[mr. incrediball]

the only symbolism in star wars is a crappy political commentary

Starwars is a rip off of Rome becoming an Empire instead of a Republic

Odd. I don't see any similarities between the Rebel Alliance and the barbarian hoardes myself.

i think he mean episodes I-III are based on rome, IV-VI... i dunno

[AndrewLC]

the only symbolism in star wars is a crappy political commentary

Starwars is a rip off of Rome becoming an Empire instead of a Republic

Odd. I don't see any similarities between the Rebel Alliance and the barbarian hoardes myself.

Nah, I mean the first couple of Episodes, Palpatine is Caesar, he declares himself dictator but still leaves a pupet republic

[borox0]

Did u know star wars was a rip off off some japanese story?

[DaGip]

Did u know star wars was a rip off off some japanese story?

Please do...we are all ears.

[soundout9]

Isn't it based off many acient wars and battles?

[Dancing Mustard]

Did u know star wars was a rip off off some japanese story?

Not quite, but good knowledge none-the-less...

Lucas has admitted that he took a great deal of inspiration for the original trilogy from Akira Kurosawa's film 'The Hidden Fortress'. It's not a rip-off by any means, but it sure does have a similar plot-structure and shares a lot of suspiciously familiar characters.

Always a big SW fan though, so I ain't complaining...


EDIT: Sod it, I even geeked it up and found a little article for you to mull over

If the idea of an epic tale told through the eyes of two bumbling characters sounds familiar, it should. For some, the names C-3P0 and R2-D2—the robotic supporting characters that anchor the Star Wars trilogy—will come to mind immediately. However, Star Wars creator George Lucas has admitted that an earlier Japanese film, Akira Kurosawa's The Hidden Fortress, served as the inspiration for his own phenomenally successful space opera. But even so, there's certainly more to The Hidden Fortress than just being the answer to a Star Wars trivia question.
The Hidden Fortress relates the time-honored tale of ordinary people caught up in extraordinary circumstances. In this case, those people are Tahei (Minoru Chiaki) and Matakishi (Kamatari Fujiwara), two peasant farmers who went off to war looking for fame and fortune only to find themselves penniless, alone, and on the run behind enemy lines. Along the way, the farmers meet a disguised general, Rokuruta Makabe (Toshiro Mifune). Unbeknownst to our two bickering protagonists, the general hopes to smuggle the beautiful, but defiant Princess Yuki (Misa Uehara) across the border to a friendly clan, along with a stockpile of gold. Capitalizing on Tahei's and Matakishi's greed, Rokoruta tricks the two gold-diggers into carrying their precious cargo, cleverly hidden inside sticks of firewood.
The ragtag group encounters several seemingly impossible situations, and many life lessons are learned. The haughty, sheltered princess learns what the lives of her subjects are really like and vows to become a better ruler: "I have seen people as they really are, in all their beauty and their ugliness, with my own eyes. I thank you." Rokurata meets an old colleague who has sided with the enemy, and the two engage in a duel, the outcome of which figures heavily into the climax. But what about Tahei and Matakishi? Well, they squabble, complain, and try to outsmart the general, but ultimately, they don't learn a damn thing. But that's quite all right; they wouldn't be the born losers the audience comes to love if they actually progressed as human beings.
Though some might bristle at Ewok creator George Lucas "stealing" from an Asian filmmaker to fashion his own masterpiece, it's important to realize that Kurosawa himself was highly influenced by American films. The Hidden Fortress may very well be a rousing, highly entertaining jidai-geki picture, but it's also strongly reminiscent of American films, in particular some of John Ford's best Westerns. But no matter who influenced whom, the fact remains that The Hidden Fortress is a great film all on its own.
Though not meaning to belabor the films relationship with Star Wars (particularly after just putting it to rest), there is one scene that might provide ample fodder for such a discussion. At one point early in the film, Tahei and Matakishi go their separate ways (as C-3P0 and R2-D2 would do on Tatooine) only to find themselves captured by the enemy. The two meet by chance among a horde of prisoners, who soon turn against their captors in a scene of bloody revolt. What is remarkable about this sequence is that the hundreds of people fighting on the stronghold's staircase are real extras, not CGI-clones as we've grown accustomed to seeing in everything from Attack of the Clones to The Two Towers. Though such computer trickery is highly impressive and sometimes photo-realistic, there is nothing quite like seeing an armada of soldiers and prisoners engaged in mortal combat and KNOWING that those people are actually there duking it out.
But, while that sequence is a remarkable part of The Hidden Fortress, its importance to the film's success is quite small. It is not the massive battles or thrilling duels that win over the audience. Whether it is the comical antics of the farmers, the sardonic, self-assuredness of Toshiro Mifune's character, or the transformation of the Princess from spoiled brat to regal warrior, it is the The Hidden Fortress' ability to make you care about its characters that makes it a truly memorable film. Ultimately, it is the human element that matters most of all. Perhaps someone should have mentioned that to George Lucas before he started the prequels. (Sanjuro 2003)

[DaGip]

That is interesting, but we are drifting a bit off topic. The question is, Is Star Wars a Prophecy?

Well, basically, according to The Phantom Menace: Episode I...Star Wars evolves from a prophecy:

A child born of prophecy, possibly conceived by the will of the Force itself, Anakin Skywalker has left an indelible mark on the history of the galaxy, leading it through periods of lightness and dark.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/charac ... skywalker/

but besides the storyline being born of prophecy...do you think Star Wars (the myth) has a self-fulfilling prophecy lingering in society today?

I mean, many tech-heads today are basing their new inventions on trying to acquire the Star Wars model...flying cars, holographs...perhaps some of these things will evolve from the story of StarWars and seem like a prophecy?

[btownmeggy]

Is this the best thread ever?!?

[DaGip]

Is this the best thread ever?!?

We can rename it?

[muy_thaiguy]

Did u know star wars was a rip off off some japanese story?

Not quite, but good knowledge none-the-less...

Lucas has admitted that he took a great deal of inspiration for the original trilogy from Akira Kurosawa's film 'The Hidden Fortress'. It's not a rip-off by any means, but it sure does have a similar plot-structure and shares a lot of suspiciously familiar characters.

Always a big SW fan though, so I ain't complaining...


EDIT: Sod it, I even geeked it up and found a little article for you to mull over

If the idea of an epic tale told through the eyes of two bumbling characters sounds familiar, it should. For some, the names C-3P0 and R2-D2—the robotic supporting characters that anchor the Star Wars trilogy—will come to mind immediately. However, Star Wars creator George Lucas has admitted that an earlier Japanese film, Akira Kurosawa's The Hidden Fortress, served as the inspiration for his own phenomenally successful space opera. But even so, there's certainly more to The Hidden Fortress than just being the answer to a Star Wars trivia question.
The Hidden Fortress relates the time-honored tale of ordinary people caught up in extraordinary circumstances. In this case, those people are Tahei (Minoru Chiaki) and Matakishi (Kamatari Fujiwara), two peasant farmers who went off to war looking for fame and fortune only to find themselves penniless, alone, and on the run behind enemy lines. Along the way, the farmers meet a disguised general, Rokuruta Makabe (Toshiro Mifune). Unbeknownst to our two bickering protagonists, the general hopes to smuggle the beautiful, but defiant Princess Yuki (Misa Uehara) across the border to a friendly clan, along with a stockpile of gold. Capitalizing on Tahei's and Matakishi's greed, Rokoruta tricks the two gold-diggers into carrying their precious cargo, cleverly hidden inside sticks of firewood.
The ragtag group encounters several seemingly impossible situations, and many life lessons are learned. The haughty, sheltered princess learns what the lives of her subjects are really like and vows to become a better ruler: "I have seen people as they really are, in all their beauty and their ugliness, with my own eyes. I thank you." Rokurata meets an old colleague who has sided with the enemy, and the two engage in a duel, the outcome of which figures heavily into the climax. But what about Tahei and Matakishi? Well, they squabble, complain, and try to outsmart the general, but ultimately, they don't learn a damn thing. But that's quite all right; they wouldn't be the born losers the audience comes to love if they actually progressed as human beings.
Though some might bristle at Ewok creator George Lucas "stealing" from an Asian filmmaker to fashion his own masterpiece, it's important to realize that Kurosawa himself was highly influenced by American films. The Hidden Fortress may very well be a rousing, highly entertaining jidai-geki picture, but it's also strongly reminiscent of American films, in particular some of John Ford's best Westerns. But no matter who influenced whom, the fact remains that The Hidden Fortress is a great film all on its own.
Though not meaning to belabor the films relationship with Star Wars (particularly after just putting it to rest), there is one scene that might provide ample fodder for such a discussion. At one point early in the film, Tahei and Matakishi go their separate ways (as C-3P0 and R2-D2 would do on Tatooine) only to find themselves captured by the enemy. The two meet by chance among a horde of prisoners, who soon turn against their captors in a scene of bloody revolt. What is remarkable about this sequence is that the hundreds of people fighting on the stronghold's staircase are real extras, not CGI-clones as we've grown accustomed to seeing in everything from Attack of the Clones to The Two Towers. Though such computer trickery is highly impressive and sometimes photo-realistic, there is nothing quite like seeing an armada of soldiers and prisoners engaged in mortal combat and KNOWING that those people are actually there duking it out.
But, while that sequence is a remarkable part of The Hidden Fortress, its importance to the film's success is quite small. It is not the massive battles or thrilling duels that win over the audience. Whether it is the comical antics of the farmers, the sardonic, self-assuredness of Toshiro Mifune's character, or the transformation of the Princess from spoiled brat to regal warrior, it is the The Hidden Fortress' ability to make you care about its characters that makes it a truly memorable film. Ultimately, it is the human element that matters most of all. Perhaps someone should have mentioned that to George Lucas before he started the prequels. (Sanjuro 2003)

I have actually seen that film. Not bad really.

Anyways, there have been some behind the scenes and in depth looks at Star Wars, and most of it is also based around Samurai (Jedi is actually a Japanese term for it) and Chi (the Force). Quite an interesting show really. And if it wasn't obvious, Chewbacca was based off of Bigfoot.

[DaGip]

Yes, the word Jedi comes from the Japanese term Jidai...which basically means a period in time.