More experts say Gov. is lying about 911

[xtratabasco]

yeah it wasnt marvin bush head of security it was some kids with boxcutters.


lol

[Napoleon Ier]

ahahahaha, ''just google it''

yep, just google it

theres 10,000+ items that talk about Marvin Bush as head of security at WTC.


go reasearch it, I know you have a hard time wiping your ass, but if your gonna be on this thread you gotta do the work yourself.




next

Yes he was, but from there to say he delibratly orchestrated a detonation of the WTCs....I mean he only removed the sniffer dogs by coincidence 5 days before the attacks. It would take about 72 to load enough into WTC1 and 2, and to do that unnoticed by the public...

[heavycola]

yeah it wasnt marvin bush head of security it was some kids with boxcutters.

What does this even mean?

You lose. Again.

[Backglass]

yeah it wasnt marvin bush head of security it was some kids with boxcutters.


lol

Translation: I have no intelligent answer, and no actual proof so I will make a baseless remark.

When he is backed into a corner he calls these cold, calculating terrorists "kids" in a feeble attempt to strengthen his position. Everyone knows they weren't kids. He also throws around "box cutters" as if this is a children's toy. We don't know what other weapons they had or what they claimed to have had. Remember that pre 9-11 airline crews were instructed NOT to fight hi-jackers and just take them where they wanted to go. Especially if brandishing weapons and claiming to have explosives. Nobody expected them to go kamikaze.

You are so played out at this. Have you no humility? You are an embarrassment to yourself and the entire 9-11 truth movement.

[xtratabasco]

yeah it wasnt marvin bush head of security it was some kids with boxcutters.


lol

Translation: I have no intelligent answer, and no actual proof so I will make a baseless remark.

When he is backed into a corner he calls these cold, calculating terrorists "kids" in a feeble attempt to strengthen his position. Everyone knows they weren't kids. He also throws around "box cutters" as if this is a children's toy. We don't know what other weapons they had or what they claimed to have had. Remember that pre 9-11 airline crews were instructed NOT to fight hi-jackers and just take them where they wanted to go. Especially if brandishing weapons and claiming to have explosives. Nobody expected them to go kamikaze.

You are so played out at this. Have you no humility? You are an embarrassment to yourself and the entire 9-11 truth movement.

oh tisk tisk little backglass just because you and your boot lickers cant show anyone pics of the 757, dont give up so soon.

remember backglass you get 1 million dollars to prove this governments 911 fairy tale, ehmmm I meant 911 story actually happened the way they said it did.

and Im not in any 911 group, I dont join groups, just like I dont have a clan here. lol but anyway, can I suggest if your gonna try to keep the governments 911 lies from getting out, your gonna have to do something about guys like this;





Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority. Graduate, U.S. Air Force War College. 34-year Air Force career. Licensed commercial pilot. Licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic.

"In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise cause of the accident. ...

The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view. …

With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the ground and certainly not the Boeing 757 as alleged. …

As painful and heartbreaking as was the loss of innocent lives and the lingering health problems of thousands more, a most troublesome and nightmarish probability remains that so many Americans appear to be involved in the most heinous conspiracy in our country's history." http://www.physics911.net

[jay_a2j]

Why don't we flip the table?


Prove to us that those planes were the cause of the towers collapse.

Prove to us a plane hit the Pentagon.

Prove to us a plane was crashed in a field and disintegrated on contact.

Prove to us you aren't just regurgitating what the media feeds you.

[Guiscard]

Prove to us you aren't just regurgitating what the media feeds you.

As opposed to youtube?

[jay_a2j]

Prove to us you aren't just regurgitating what the media feeds you.

As opposed to youtube?

Another non-response! Give the man a cookie!

[Dancing Mustard]

Shit! I totally got my ass kicked by Heavycola...

What the f*ck do I do now? I look like a retard...


I know, I'll just say that if what he said was true then he'd be a millionaire. Just because some people equally closed-minded as me are offering a notional reward (that they would never seriously award) means that whenever somebody beats the intellectual stuffing out of me I can try to use its mere existance as a possibility to discredit them


I'll also copy paste a shit ton of irrelevant bullshit from some site to create a massive smokescreen to cover my badly beaten tail

Just admit that you were wrong and be a man about it... jeez

[Backglass]

Why don't we flip the table?


Prove to us that those planes were the cause of the towers collapse.

Prove to us a plane hit the Pentagon.

Prove to us a plane was crashed in a field and disintegrated on contact.

Prove to us you aren't just regurgitating what the media feeds you.

I'll take the christian line of reasoning.

Prove to me that YOU exist.

[alex_white101]

Prove to us you aren't just regurgitating what the media feeds you.

As opposed to youtube?

haha

[xtratabasco]

Why don't we flip the table?


Prove to us that those planes were the cause of the towers collapse.

Prove to us a plane hit the Pentagon.

Prove to us a plane was crashed in a field and disintegrated on contact.

Prove to us you aren't just regurgitating what the media feeds you.

I'll take the christian line of reasoning.

Prove to me that YOU exist.

yep backglass has proven again that he cant defend this governments story.

[Frigidus]

Hm...let's take a new route because all these threads ever come down to is a constant discrediting of the opposition's sources combined with a constant elementary school "you suck, no you suck" argument. Let's say for just a moment that the government did perpetrate 9/11. What exactly do you propose our course of action should be?

[Gold Knight]

What exactly do you propose our course of action should be?

Xtra planned on sending them many nasty letters, which may contain a few naughty words , but other than that, he was just trying to convince people online to pick up his own ideas.

[Backglass]

yep backglass has proven again that he cant defend this governments story.

And you can't prove yours. Eyewitnesses reported seeing a plane. Nobody reported seeing a drone or missile.

[Frigidus]

yep backglass has proven again that he cant defend this governments story.

And you can't prove yours. Eyewitnesses reported seeing a plane. Nobody reported seeing a drone or missile.

Eyewitnesses can't quite compare to outraged youtubers and disillusioned government employees. I'd add a , but they're way too overused in these threads. Wait...OH SHI

[jay_a2j]

Let's say for just a moment that the government did perpetrate 9/11. What exactly do you propose our course of action should be?

Overthrow it

[Frigidus]

Let's say for just a moment that the government did perpetrate 9/11. What exactly do you propose our course of action should be?

Overthrow it

About time, I've been waiting for someone to say this. Would the repercussions of creating a power vacuum by throwing the worlds only superpower into a civil war be much less counteractive than anything that even a corrupt government could ever hope to accomplish? It honestly is a question by the way, no implied answer.

[unriggable]

yep backglass has proven again that he cant defend this governments story.

SEE EVERY OTHER THREAD YOU HAVE POSTED ABOUT THIS FUCKING STUPID TOPIC TO SEE YOUR PROOF AND TRY AND MAKE A REBUTTAL WITHOUT USING A LINK.

[xtratabasco]

yep backglass has proven again that he cant defend this governments story.

And you can't prove yours. Eyewitnesses reported seeing a plane. Nobody reported seeing a drone or missile.

Psssttt









hey backglass











this is my thread











go make your own about the eyewitnesses who worked for the pentagon seeing things they were told to see.










lol

[Frigidus]

I'd quote xtra but he used an obscene amount of enters. Anyways, neither our eyewitnesses nor your experts don't have possible ulterior motives. This is all speculation really.

[Backglass]

Psssttt

<snip>

Tell us more Xtra! You're proving my point more and more with every post.

But please continue ignore the eyewitnesses. I am sure those commuters on the highway were all "on the take" government robots.

Which brings me to another flaw in your crackpot theory. You claim the plane never hit the Pentagon, but you never say where it went or what happened to it. You theory is only halfbaked...you have to follow it through! Why didn't any of those passengers, the ones on the cell phones to their relatives...keep calling after the missile hit the Pentagon? Were they all drugged with sleeping gas like a bad batman episode?

Feel free to ignore this one too.

[xtratabasco]

Psssttt

<snip>

Tell us more Xtra! You're proving my point more and more with every post.

But please continue ignore the eyewitnesses. I am sure those commuters on the highway were all "on the take" government robots.

gee golly backglass I would never want to ignore those pesky eyewitnesses of yours.

here you go
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 585#843585

[Backglass]

Psssttt

<snip>

Tell us more Xtra! You're proving my point more and more with every post.

But please continue ignore the eyewitnesses. I am sure those commuters on the highway were all "on the take" government robots.

gee golly backglass I would never want to ignore those pesky eyewitnesses of yours.

here you go
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 585#843585

Go back and re-read. My list of actual eyewitnesses. Not your fake one.

You can do it! Concentrate now!

[xtratabasco]

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_richard__071103_former_high_level_of.htm





November 3, 2007 at 06:58:31

Former high-level officials challenge the conventional explanation of how and why the Twin Towers came down

by Richard Clark Page 1 of 3 page(s)

http://www.opednews.com







A 2,000 word article, Seven CIA Veterans Challenge 9/11 Commission Report, appeared September 23, 2007 in OpEdNews. (Link provided below.) The article details severe criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report by seven CIA veterans and calls for a new investigation. Here follows a brief quote or two from several of the individuals whose testimony is included in the article:

Ray McGovern, former Chairman of the National Intelligence Council and 27-year CIA veteran: "The 9/11 Report is a joke." “It has long been clear that the Bush-Cheney administration cynically exploited the attacks of 9/11 to promote its imperial designs. . . (And there is) evidence for an even more disturbing conclusion: that the 9/11 attacks were themselves orchestrated by this administration precisely so they could be thus exploited.”


William Christison, former National Intelligence Officer (NIO) and former Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political, and 29-year CIA veteran: "We very seriously need an entirely new, very high level, and truly independent investigation of the events of 9/11. I think you almost have to look at the 9/11 Commission Report as a joke and not a serious piece of analysis at all." “The North and South Towers of the World Trade Center almost certainly did not collapse and fall to earth because hijacked aircraft hit them.”

Robert Baer, 21-year CIA veteran and specialist in the Middle East, was awarded the Career Intelligence Medal upon his retirement in 1997. During an interview by Thom Hartmann, Baer, after commenting on the financial profits being made from 9/11, was asked: “What about political profit? There are those who suggest that someone in (the U.S.) chain of command had pretty good knowledge that 9/11 was going to happen -- and really didn't do much to stop it -- or even obstructed efforts to stop it because they thought it would lend legitimacy to Bush's failing presidency.” Baer replied: “Absolutely.” Hartmann then asked, “So you are personally of the opinion that there was an aspect of 'inside job' to 9/11 within the U.S. government?" To which Baer replied, "There is that possibility, the evidence points at it." When Hartmann continued, "And why is this not being investigated?” Baer replied, "Why isn't the WMD story being investigated? Why hasn't anybody been held accountable for 9/11? We held people accountable after Pearl Harbor. Why has there been no change in command? Why have there been no political repercussions? Why has there not been any sort of exposure on all this? It really makes you wonder."

Robert David Steele has 25 years of combined service in the CIA and the U.S. Marine Corps. Second ranking civilian in U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence from 1988 - 1992. Member of the Adjunct Faculty of Marine Corps University. His comment: "I am forced to conclude that 9/11 was at a minimum allowed to happen as a pretext for war. "I'm absolutely certain that WTC 7 was brought down by controlled demolition. There's no way that building could have come down without controlled demolition."

http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/print_ ... rans_c.htm

Additional statements questioning the official account of 9/11, and calls for a new investigation, by hundreds of high-level military officers (now retired) and other highly-credible individuals, can be found at http://PatriotsQuestion911.com

Here’s some of the evidence that prompts them to call for a new investigation:

1 20-ton sections of steel beams were propelled, laterally, for a distance of up to 400 feet where they lodged in the sides of nearby buildings. (See video footage of this at http://www.ae911truth.org)


2 Molten metal was seen (and videotaped) gushing out the side of one of the twin towers. (Why is this significant? Jet fuel burns at 1800 degrees Fahrenheit while office furniture, rugs and computers burn at an even lower temperature. Iron and steel don’t vaporize until their temperature gets close to 4000 degrees F. So what does burn at a temperature capable of vaporizing steel? Incendiary compounds known as thermate and thermite, which burn at 4500 degrees F. See more about this later in this article.)


3 Various explosions (some quite powerful) were seen, heard and felt by hundreds of people, including many firemen and policemen, prior to the collapse of the twin towers, but occurred well after the airliners collided with the buildings.


4 Huge numbers of extremely tiny iron spherules (formed when steel or iron vaporizes at extremely high temperatures) can be found in most of the 9/11 dust samples. (more evidence for thermite)


5 Many column sections seen in the wreckage of the twin towers were cut at 45-degree angles, and have, close to the cut lines, previously-melted 'drippings' produced when the steel was melted at a temperature much higher than can be produced by an acetylene torch. This kind of angle cut can be used to direct the falling beam inward.
Source for the above information is http://www.ae911truth.org, which is the web site of an investigative organization whose 200+ members are all either professional architects or professional engineers.

gee more experts give their take on 911




National Academy of Sciences Member Calls for New 9/11 Investigation – Official Explanation a "Fraud" Aug. 27, 2007

Summary: Lynn Margulis, Ph.D., member of the National Academy of Sciences and world renowned scientist, characterized the official account of 9/11 as "a fraud" and called for a new investigation, "I suggest that those of us aware and concerned demand that the glaringly erroneous official account of 9/11 be dismissed as a fraud and a new, thorough, and impartial investigation be undertaken."



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Former California Seismic Safety Commissioner Endorses 9/11 Truth Movement – Prominent Engineer Calls for a New Investigation of 9/11 July 16, 2007 Link to full article

Summary: J. Marx Ayres, former member of the National Institute of Sciences Building Safety Council and former member of the California Seismic Safety Commission called for a new investigation of 9/11, "Steven Jones' call for a serious investigation of the hypothesis that the WTC 7 and the Twin Towers were brought down, not just by impact damage and fire, but through the use of pre-positioned 'cutter-charges' must be the rallying cry for all building design experts to speak out."


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