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Postby ga7 on Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:05 pm

Rofl, I'm not giving town an ultimatum Tal. I'm giving YOU an ultimatum. If you really are any kind of useful to town, I think you should claim before the end of the day, because all your actions are not of a townie. And you perfectly know you can't defend against that. All that talk about being ok with an investigation seems like dust thrown in town's eyes to me :wink:
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Postby Talapus on Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:21 pm

ga7 wrote:Well, I kinda believe Kalish as personally I had to reread my role to realize that. Plus he has a bad memory :wink:
Unvote Vote Tal Basically, either we lynch him now, or I kill him tonight. I'd rather go through the lynch process, but all in all I really don't think he's town either. Gotta wonder though, why no votes GT?



How is this not an ultimatum?!? Seriously, basically all you stated was regardless of what happens, you are going to ensure I die. Tat's exactly what this is. That fact that you not only think this isn't an ultimatum and the fact that you find it amusing that a townie is going to die has just put you at the top of my scumdar. Vote - - - ga7. Also, I said I'd claim if I had to, there is still time, why you;re pushing this so hard is beyond me. Come on ga7, you're a smater player then this...
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Postby mandalorian2298 on Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:25 pm

I don't see why we should waste a lynch on Talapus. If Ga7 thinks that Tal is Scum, let him kill Tal. We are ahead anyway and this way Tal's death will at least prove that Ga7 has an option to kill (I am at present wandless, so I would be most interested in stealing a GOOD wand. :twisted: That Crucio wand sucked. I only used it once, because of the dream. (RL dream, for all of you serial skimmers :roll: )).
So, I say we lynch either Kalis (the Boring option) or Fircoal (exciting, I-get-to-be-the-hero-again option :D ).
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Postby ga7 on Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:26 pm

... I never said I'm not giving an ultimatum. It's just not for town but for you only. Seriously, if you keep going that way I'll kill you, so you'd better start being convincing. I'm pushing because you give absolutely nothing that is town-like in this game. Additionally I might remind you while I'm at it that I'm pretty much a proven townie with the Neut lynch pushing so your vote is a nice OMGUS case :P
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Postby Syzygy on Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:27 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:I don't see why we should waste a lynch on Talapus. If Ga7 thinks that Tal is Scum, let him kill Tal. We are ahead anyway and this way Tal's death will at least prove that Ga7 has an option to kill (I am at present wandless, so I would be most interested in stealing a GOOD wand. :twisted: That Crucio wand sucked. I only used it once, because of the dream. (RL dream, for all of you serial skimmers :roll: )).
So, I say we lynch either Kalis (the Boring option) or Fircoal (exciting, I-get-to-be-the-hero-again option :D ).


QFT to the max to that bolded part.
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Postby Talapus on Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:32 pm

I have like 3 votes on me, it takes 8. Plenty of time for a discussion, yet you're pushing for a claim from me rather hard with only 3 votes on me. It's nice ga7 that you pulled the same stunt in starwars mafia and got honest players killed for claiming early. We have plenty have of time. I've already said my death could endanger one other townie. I haven't claimed and don't intend on doing so unless I have too for both our sakes. You realize that for the last few games I figured you for a smarter mafia player. But, turns out that you're just impatient...Hmm, who knew :roll: .
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Postby ga7 on Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:39 pm

I'm just reminding you that even if the votes don't go your way I might Nk you. I really don't get how it would endanger another player for you to claim, but well for that I don't know anything about the setting so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. As for the smartness of all this, you just have to read the previous day to realize you're in a pretty tight spot atm; so by advance, my apologies if you're a townie acting like scum. Thought you'd be better than that? :mrgreen:
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Postby Serbia on Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:45 pm

Ok, my head is spinning, so I'm just going to FOS Ga7, for this bit on Tal... I'm going to have to re-read more carefully, and figure this one out.
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Postby mandalorian2298 on Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:57 pm

Talapus wrote:I have like 3 votes on me, it takes 8. Plenty of time for a discussion, yet you're pushing for a claim from me rather hard with only 3 votes on me. It's nice ga7 that you pulled the same stunt in starwars mafia and got honest players killed for claiming early. We have plenty have of time. I've already said my death could endanger one other townie. I haven't claimed and don't intend on doing so unless I have too for both our sakes. You realize that for the last few games I figured you for a smarter mafia player. But, turns out that you're just impatient...Hmm, who knew :roll: .


And yet your LOVER! is strangly absent ins his/hers support. You are claiming Lover (or Husband, or Wife, or Brother, whatever) right? Because I really don't know how else to explain your willy-nilly atempt not to claim.

I would like to ask Fred/George (whichever one isn't Talapus) to step up and back his claim. That way we acomplish two things:

1. Mafia goes for you guys tonight (they could really use a double kill, since they are geting masacred). This will help the rest of us to feel safer. Thanks Tal. :twisted:

2. Everybody can turn their attention back on lynching Kalish and Fircoal.

3. FOS Tonka. The town lynched 2 scum and the pro-town hero is not the guy who nailed them? :? What gives? Are you Harry Potter and have nailed Jnd or are you a very unhappy Deatheater attempting to submarrine?
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Postby Talapus on Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:32 pm

Geez, how hard was that. Mandy figured it out. Anyway Ga7 since it is now obvious deatheaters will be gunning for me, I suggest(If you really are town) Use the wand you've advertised to everyone you have and help out the town since hogwarts is now going to loose to townies tomorrow.
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Postby freezie on Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:47 pm

Cruciacounta

Kalishnikov (2) Koesen, Dustn.
Talapus (3) Nagerous, Ga007, LSU
Fircoal (1) Mandy
Ga007 (1) Talapus



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Postby kalishnikov on Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:58 pm

No one has any real leads, but everyone's convinced they know who the scum is; more accurately, who should be lynched/killed for some pointless/insignificant reason.

I got nothin. You guys seriously do astound me sometimes with your level of bullshitery; except mandalorian, I expect pretty much anything from him. He'll talk you into lynching your mom because he had a vision of his dog being the anti-christ, if you give him a chance.

So who's gettin bandwagoned next for some nonsense reason?

And ga seems to really want Talapus dead. It seems kinda logical at least one of the 2 is scum, I just don't know which yet.
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Postby Syzygy on Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:46 am

Don't lovers normally have one mafia counterpart and a pro-town counterpart? Because then it would be good to kill him now.

Can someone confirm my assumption?
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Postby Fircoal on Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:53 am

Syzygy wrote:Don't lovers normally have one mafia counterpart and a pro-town counterpart? Because then it would be good to kill him now.

Can someone confirm my assumption?


normally, ;) Not always, but most likely it would be that way. But there are some games where it's not. (NJO)
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Postby Syzygy on Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:01 am

So, on that basis though, we have a very high chance of killing scum by lynching him.

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Postby mandalorian2298 on Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:58 am

Syzygy wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:I don't see why we should waste a lynch on Talapus. If Ga7 thinks that Tal is Scum, let him kill Tal. We are ahead anyway and this way Tal's death will at least prove that Ga7 has an option to kill (I am at present wandless, so I would be most interested in stealing a GOOD wand. :twisted: That Crucio wand sucked. I only used it once, because of the dream. (RL dream, for all of you serial skimmers :roll: )).
So, I say we lynch either Kalis (the Boring option) or Fircoal (exciting, I-get-to-be-the-hero-again option :D ).


QFT to the max to that bolded part.

Syzygy wrote:So, on that basis though, we have a very high chance of killing scum by lynching him.

Vote:Talapus


So Syzygy, what kind of meds do they give to people with multiple personality disorder these days? :wink:
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Postby Syzygy on Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:01 am

I changed my mind. One of them at least. :P
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Postby mandalorian2298 on Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:09 am

Syzygy wrote:I changed my mind. One of them at least. :P


Why? :? My way Tal dies + we have an extra chance to lynch a scum + we find out if Ga7 has been lying about his NK ability.
Your way Tal dies and Mafia gets a complementary NK before our next chance to lynch one (and probably only) of them. I don't like it when Mafia gets cool bonuses. :? Do you?
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Postby Syzygy on Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:12 am

Yes, but I realized that lynching him eliminates the possibility of roleblocking wand.
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Postby mandalorian2298 on Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:18 am

Syzygy wrote:Yes, but I realized that lynching him eliminates the possibility of roleblocking wand.


How!? Did Talapus admit that he has a roleblocking wand?
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Postby Talapus on Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:19 am

mandalorian2298 wrote:
Syzygy wrote:Yes, but I realized that lynching him eliminates the possibility of roleblocking wand.


How!? Did Talapus admit that he has a roleblocking wand?


Tal has admitted to ever even having a wand... :roll:
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Postby Syzygy on Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:25 am

mandalorian2298 wrote:
Syzygy wrote:Yes, but I realized that lynching him eliminates the possibility of roleblocking wand.


How!? Did Talapus admit that he has a roleblocking wand?


ANY scum could easily have a roleblocking wand. :roll:
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Postby mandalorian2298 on Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:29 am

Syzygy wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:
Syzygy wrote:Yes, but I realized that lynching him eliminates the possibility of roleblocking wand.


How!? Did Talapus admit that he has a roleblocking wand?


ANY scum could easily have a roleblocking wand. :roll:


Bye bye Logic. =;
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Postby Syzygy on Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:44 am

How is that skimming and not logic?

The possibility of a wand that can roleblock is stupidly high in this game. Why? Because, in most large mafia games, the mafia often get a roleblocker.

So, is it such really a stretch Mandy? :roll:
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Postby ga7 on Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:56 am

Rofl. Not to mention I'm not sure if a kill would go through if I'm dead, and scum could perfectly have stolen me my doc wand.
Anyway, pseudo-analyzing in a hungover fashion the last few posts, here's my observations:
Granted, I know nothing setting wise, but doesn't that lover etc claim seem weird to anyone? Mandy mentions something that is possibly fitting that role setting-wise, and Tal jumps on it right away :shock: And of course, not counting the chance that Tal could perfectly be scum lover/sibling, which might be why he's not defended by his partner.

I'd rather lynch him, for previously mentioned reason, for avoiding extra deaths, and because Tal might be the last scum and I'd rather share the credit (jk, I want someone else to blame if he's town :lol:) :P
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