Super Smash Bros

[Fircoal]

see what I mean? we don't need to know everything

MEEEE-OOWTH
That's right!

ARbustos you owe me money now, cause I use pay day.

You owe the English language money for all those times you raped it.

It wasn't rape, it agreed to sex.

[Arbustos]

[Fircoal]

](*,)

[Gilligan]

I really hope the Marth update is soon.

[Arbustos]

It'll be there... at least it will be if Sakurai wants to continue living.

I think Ike is just replacing Roy.

[Gilligan]

It'll be there... at least it will be if Sakurai wants to continue living.

I think Ike is just replacing Roy.

I hope no on e gets replaced.

[Skittles!]

I want Brawl.. But I'll never get a Wii.

How can I fix this problem?

[bloknayrb]

If you're talking about the original for N64, then hells yes. That is one of the best games I've ever played. I didn't like the newer one as much though.
And Pikachu kicks ass.

[Snorri1234]

If you're talking about the original for N64, then hells yes. That is one of the best games I've ever played. I didn't like the newer one as much though.

Why not, it was basically the same with more stuff.

Also, pikachu sucks. Luigi and Mario is where it's at!

[Fircoal]

If you're talking about the original for N64, then hells yes. That is one of the best games I've ever played. I didn't like the newer one as much though.

Why not, it was basically the same with more stuff.

Also, pikachu sucks. Luigi and Mario is where it's at!

YOU SUCK! PIKACHU PWNS! And Melee is better.

[Arbustos]

Pikachu is #1 in the original (tier-wise).

[static_ice]

... go sheik!

[Arbustos]

Hopefully...

[Arbustos]

BUMP

[NESconqueror]

BUMP

Bump.

[Fircoal]

Peach's final smash sucks. Also it looks like she keeps her forward smash.

[Arbustos]

News from the E for All Expo!

-Good news fircoal: Pikachu is awesome now, one of the best in the demo
-Abusable characters, e.g., Peach, Fox, etc., have been balanced
-Zero Suit Samus' Final Smash gives her a golden glow that basically kills anyone right against her; she turns back into Power Suit Samus after

More great stuff here.


Now go here and sign the petition for a Brawl demo.

[Fircoal]

News from the E for All Expo!

-Good news fircoal: Pikachu is awesome now, one of the best in the demo
-Abusable characters, e.g., Peach, Fox, etc., have been balanced
-Zero Suit Samus' Final Smash gives her a golden glow that basically kills anyone right against her; she turns back into Power Suit Samus after

More great stuff here.


Now go here and sign the petition for a Brawl demo.

awesome to here, Though I also use Fox, so I hope he says good. ^_^

[Arbustos]

I use Fox too. Shinespiking is basically ineffective now, though he is still good overall.

[Fircoal]

I use Fox too. Shinespiking is basically ineffective now, though he is still good overall.

why is it ineffective? I'm too lazy to read 44 pages.

[Arbustos]

I use Fox too. Shinespiking is basically ineffective now, though he is still good overall.

why is it ineffective? I'm too lazy to read 44 pages.

His down-b is slower now, and they can recover from it

More news:
-Giga Bowser is amazing -- 30 seconds to kill everyone TWICE.
-You can jump after airdodging now. Better recovery FTW.

[Fircoal]

I use Fox too. Shinespiking is basically ineffective now, though he is still good overall.

why is it ineffective? I'm too lazy to read 44 pages.

His down-b is slower now, and they can recover from it

More news:
-Giga Bowser is amazing -- 30 seconds to kill everyone TWICE.
-You can jump after airdodging now. Better recovery FTW.

that's good about the airdodging. But that sucks about Fox's down-B. Any more stuff?

[Arbustos]

Uh... costumes are better overall. Dark Link, Corrupted Samus, GOLDEN BOWSER, etc.

The game is like a mix of Melee and the original. Now for a paraphrase of someone elses info.

-Stages are smaller like in SSB
-Items and Assist Trophies make the game insane
-Mario is better than Sonic overall (who is now the fastest running character, with average attacking speed)
-Ike is uber-slow, but really strong
-Donkey Kong's about the same, and Diddy is good in general
-Fox's Final Smash (Land Tank) can DO BARREL ROLLS
-You can USE BOMBS WISELY now (the StarFox Smart Bomb is in and huge)
-Mario is also a combination of his Melee self and the Doc, with some new moves
-Each character has three taunts, one for each D-pad direction
-Pikachu's Thunder (down-B) is a kill-move now (and one of the strongest)
-Latios/Latias is in as a Pokeball
-Peach's Final Smash puts everyone to sleep for about the same time as Jigglypuff sleeps after using Rest
-You can't airdodge in a direction, so wavedashing is out
-C-stick automatically charges smashes now and does tilts if you push the direction on the both sticks
-Sonic's dash dance is even better than Capt. Falcon's
-Fox doesn't fast fall so bad anymore (no more insta-kills for Yoshis that egg you off the edge)
-Catching items out of the air (with Z) is a lot easier now
-Wall jumping still in (even off ceilings)
-Metaknight's teleport is really fast; he has a fast roll as well
-Shines are much faster in the air, and I guess it's still possible to shinespike, just harder to kill them with it
-Footstool jumping works beautifully (jumping on someone's head to spike them)
-Crawling's there
-Personal character intros in
-Bowser walks out of fire
-Mario uses pipe
-Arwing drops Fox off
-Bombjumping (Samus) is harder
-Mario's FLUDD doesn't do damage and stays on his back until you put it away
-Fox's laser doesn't go very far

-You can stand on boxes and hit them in the air (a la up-smash) without breaking them
-After Link's Final Smash, the Triforce breaks up into golden pieces that hit and knock away anyone in front of him
-His bombs kill in Super Sudden Death
-Fox's Illusion (over-b) can still be shortened
-Walking and shooting with the ray gun (or any gun) is awesome
-Moonwalking is in
-NEW TECHNIQUES
-Hugging: you can walk, dash, roll, and slide off the stage and directly grab the ledge (go edgehogging!)
-Ink Drop: Do a failed dash dance (dash too far and then turn around) and you will just fall down; you can cancel falling with throws and attacks, though, so it's possible to dash right past someone and then instantaneously grab them)
-Peach's whornado (down-smash) is less abusable now
-Bowser is actually good now


-Mario
-Feels like 64 version
-Great combos
-DK
-Basically the same
-Samus
-Missles are weaker
-Link
-Arrows faster
-Fox
-Nerfed
-Peach
-See above
-Yoshi
-Egg-tossing gives *small* vertical distance, but can be done over and over
-Bowser
-Better; hard to kill
-Pit
-Average, but great recovery
-Metaknight
-ABUSE: Quick and powerful, with nice combos and great recovery
-Diddy Kong
-Combo-happy too
-Ike
-Way strong and slow; doesn't flinch easy
-Up-B is straight vertical, like Luigi's
-Sonic
-fastest character in movement
-awkward in attacking (at least with the Classic controller and Wiimote)

All credit to DarkGea (GAMEFAQS) and Gimpyfish (SmashBoards).

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=121329&page=1

[Fircoal]

Uh... costumes are better overall. Dark Link, Corrupted Samus, GOLDEN BOWSER, etc.

The game is like a mix of Melee and the original. Now for a paraphrase of someone elses info.

-Stages are smaller like in SSB
-Items and Assist Trophies make the game insane
-Mario is better than Sonic overall (who is now the fastest running character, with average attacking speed)
-Ike is uber-slow, but really strong
-Donkey Kong's about the same, and Diddy is good in general
-Fox's Final Smash (Land Tank) can DO BARREL ROLLS
-You can USE BOMBS WISELY now (the StarFox Smart Bomb is in and huge)
-Mario is also a combination of his Melee self and the Doc, with some new moves
-Each character has four taunts, one for each D-pad direction
-Pikachu's Thunder (down-B) is a kill-move now (and one of the strongest)
-Latios/Latias is in as a Pokeball
-Peach's Final Smash puts everyone to sleep for about the same time as Jigglypuff sleeps after using Rest
-You can't airdodge in a direction, so wavedashing is out
-C-stick automatically charges smashes now and does tilts if you push the direction on the both sticks
-Sonic's dash dance is even better than Capt. Falcon's
-Fox doesn't fast fall so bad anymore (no more insta-kills for Yoshis that egg you off the edge)
-Catching items out of the air (with Z) is a lot easier now
-Wall jumping still in (even off ceilings)
-Metaknight's teleport is really fast; he has a fast roll as well
-Shines are much faster in the air, and I guess it's still possible to shinespike, just harder to kill them with it
-Footstool jumping works beautifully (jumping on someone's head to spike them)
-Crawling's there
-Personal character intros in
-Bowser walks out of fire
-Mario uses pipe
-Arwing drops Fox off
-Bombjumping (Samus) is harder
-Mario's FLUDD doesn't do damage and stays on his back until you put it away
-Fox's laser doesn't go very far

-You can stand on boxes and hit them in the air (a la up-smash) without breaking them
-After Link's Final Smash, the Triforce breaks up into golden pieces that hit and knock away anyone in front of him
-His bombs kill in Super Sudden Death
-Fox's Illusion (over-b) can still be shortened
-Walking and shooting with the ray gun (or any gun) is awesome
-Moonwalking is in
-NEW TECHNIQUES
-Hugging: you can walk, dash, roll, and slide off the stage and directly grab the ledge (go edgehogging!)
-Ink Drop: Do a failed dash dance (dash too far and then turn around) and you will just fall down; you can cancel falling with throws and attacks, though, so it's possible to dash right past someone and then instantaneously grab them)
-Peach's whornado (down-smash) is less abusable now
-Bowser is actually good now


-Mario
-Feels like 64 version
-Great combos
-DK
-Basically the same
-Samus
-Missles are weaker
-Link
-Arrows faster
-Fox
-Nerfed
-Peach
-See above
-Yoshi
-Egg-tossing gives *small* vertical distance, but can be done over and over
-Bowser
-Better; hard to kill
-Pit
-Average, but great recovery
-Metaknight
-ABUSE: Quick and powerful, with nice combos and great recovery
-Diddy Kong
-Combo-happy too
-Ike
-Way strong and slow; doesn't flinch easy
-Up-B is straight vertical, like Luigi's
-Sonic
-fastest character in movement
-awkward in attacking (at least with the Classic controller and Wiimote)

All credit to DarkGea (GAMEFAQS) and Gimpyfish (SmashBoards).

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=121329&page=1

awesome info. But why did they have to shorten Fox's laser. Oh, well. He'll still probably be good, just not as good. but Pika is better.

[Arbustos]

Because it's way too abusable in Melee. If no one's paying attention to you, you can add 30 or more damage in a few seconds. (Of course, I abuse it as much as anyone else. )