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Which would require less men?

Postby gavin_sidhu on Sat Aug 12, 2006 10:24 pm

Just wondering would which should require less men to do:

Kill one country with 20 men on it or kill 20 countries with 1 man on each of them?

The attacker has 3 dice throughout
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Postby Pilate on Sat Aug 12, 2006 10:35 pm

the 2nd one.
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Postby AK_iceman on Sat Aug 12, 2006 10:41 pm

The first one would take less men.

You would lose at a minumum 20 guys in the second scenario, if you had average dice you would lose 1 man for every 2 territories captured bringing you to a total of 30 armies for scenario 2.

In scenario 1 you only have to lose a minimum of 1 army. With average dice it will take 15-16 armies to defeat the army of 20 leaving you with 15 more armies than in scenario 2.
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Postby HighBorn on Sat Aug 12, 2006 10:54 pm

yeah big one fist always i hate 1's
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Postby Herakilla on Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:17 pm

ya the first one cuz you never know what ur gonna roll even against 1s and all they need is a 6..............
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Postby zip_disk on Sun Aug 13, 2006 2:11 am

Well let's look at it I suppose.

Dice odds
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Scenario 1: 20 armies on 1 country
Rounding odds to simplify (favoring attacker).
Attacker kills 11 per 10 rolls
Defender kills 9 per 10 rolls.
Roughly 18 rolls needed to kill 20 defenders.
~16 dead
3 to maintain dice advantage

16 + 3 = 19
Say 20-21 to account for rounding.

Scenario 2: 20 armies on 20 countries
Attacker kills 6.6 per 10 rolls.
Defender kills 3.4 per 10 rolls.
20 rolls minimum needed to win plus 35% will lose and need to be redone.
~9 dead.
3 to maintain dice advantage
18 left behind on fields to occupy.

9 + 3 + 18 = 30

Summary
Scenario 1: 20 armies on 1 country - Willl require less armies to kill
Scenario 2: 20 armies on 20 countries - Although scenario will require more attackers, you will have more left over afterwards. Even assuming they both start out with the 30 at the beginning. They'll just be spread out like your opponent was.
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Postby gavin_sidhu on Sun Aug 13, 2006 3:06 am

kool thnx. really useful for escalating card games.
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Postby Pedronicus on Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:58 am

gavin_sidhu wrote:kool thnx. really useful for escalating card games.


no gavin - the cards you rip from the dead hand of the deceased player is whats really useful.....
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Postby gavin_sidhu on Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:15 am

Pedronicus wrote:
gavin_sidhu wrote:kool thnx. really useful for escalating card games.


no gavin - the cards you rip from the dead hand of the deceased player is whats really useful.....


and knowing which is easier to kill helps you choose your next target :wink:
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