POST YOUR TOP 5 FAVORITE MILITARY COMMANDERS...AND WHY?

by **taranwandrer** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:28 pm

MY TOP 5 MILITARY COMMANDERS TO MY BAISED WESTERN KNOWLEDGE

note...these are my favorites, not necc. who i think is the best. although i think these men are near the best mostly

1.Cornwallis--lost at yorktown on purpose practically to settle fight with clinton his bumbling commander....great commander on the field...
2.Nathan Bedford Forrest....31 men killed in hand to hand combat...and a genious with no formal military training...something we should learn from when watching all those guys with all those medals testifying on capitol hill
3.Rommel...the shit
4.Patton....slightly better shit than rommel
5.Benedict Arnold....underrated due to his traitor tag....which,if you read his history...is a bit unfair...if england had won, wed praise him....he went bankrupt funding his own regiment to invade canada....won the battle of saragota for gates....had too many political enemies in congresswhich led to his betrayal....im not apologizing for him though...

****honorable mention
Joshua lawrence Chamberlin....little round top
Lu Bu
Admiral Ackbar
Captain Kirk
Mad Anthony Wayne
Audie Murphy
The Red Baron
Norman Schwartzkopf

by **muy_thaiguy** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:49 pm

Top 5 commanders, but no Alexander the Great, whom most, if not all Western Generals have admired for millenia? Julius Caesar, who became the 1st emperor of Rome due in part to his military campaigns? Napolean Boneparte, who was the last great general of France, and easily one of the best in the world? How about Hannibal Barca, who terrorized Rome, and only one person ever defeated him in battle? Or Scipio Africanus, the only man to have defeated Hannibal?

Rommel
Phillip II of Macedon
Richard the Lionheart
Saladin
Sun Tzu
Zhuge Liang
Leonidas
Themisticles
Genghis Khan

There are many more then this, but those are some pretty good generals you left out there.

by **ignotus** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:52 pm

1. Guderian - maker, designer and best commander of German panzer divisions (not that show-off Rommel, Himmler prodigy)!

2. Napoleon - Brilliant commander, reorganized French army into a first modern army in the world. Used logistics and manpower wisely...

3. Patton - He pushed his men like dogs or slaves, and they had re payed him by wining every battle under his command. Africa, Sicily, Ardennes...

4. Tito - Had the first big organized army that acted for 4 years on the European territory under Axis control, and the Germans simply didn't know how to stop them...

5. Vo Nguyen Giap - commander responsible for every big battle victory in Vietnam war (Dien Bien Phu 1954; Tet Offensive 1968; the Easter Offensive 1972; and the final Ho Chi Minh Campaign 1975). Kicked French and American asses several times.

by **taranwandrer** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:56 pm

DISCLAIMER!
I SAID FAVORITE...NOT BEST.

if i wasgoing to do best, ill need a lot of time to think.
so its favorite list, ok?

by **muy_thaiguy** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:02 pm

Okay, but the ones in the paragraph were my favorite, and the ones below are close to it.

by **Gypsys Kiss** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:16 pm

my top 5 commanders are

1. Alexander the Great - brilliant tactican, strong and ruthless

2. Ghengis Khan - you cant take most of asia and europe without being good at what you do

3. Hanibal - alps and elephants says it all

4. Arthur Wellesley - beat napoleon. nuff said

5. Lieutenant Colonel Anthony William Durnford - a distant cousin of mine. if you want to know more google him. if you dont, dont.

by **Minister Masket** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:19 pm

Don't forget British Field Commander Montgomery, who basically turned the war for North Africa around in WW2. He also led the mission to re-take Europe.

by **ignotus** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:30 pm

Minister Masket wrote:Don't forget British Field Commander Montgomery, who basically turned the war for North Africa around in WW2. He also led the mission to re-take Europe.

WHAT?

Monty was one of the lousiest generals of the WWII!!!

He wasn't decisive and he was slooooooow. His failure in Operation Market Garden is well known. :roll:

by **mandalorian2298** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:31 pm

Miyamoto Musashi (the only real person on my list :lol:

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Grand Admiral Thrawn (no comment necessary)

Wedge Antilles (mostly because of his Defense of Borleias during the Yuuzhan Vong war)

Richard Rahl (for avoiding the final battle in "Phantom")

Malcom Reynolds (the final battle in "Serenity" is brilliant piece of strategy

)

by **Minister Masket** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:34 pm

ignotus wrote:
Minister Masket wrote:Don't forget British Field Commander Montgomery, who basically turned the war for North Africa around in WW2. He also led the mission to re-take Europe.

WHAT?

Monty was one of the lousiest generals of the WWII!!!

He wasn't decisive and he was slooooooow. His failure in Operation Market Garden is well known.

Listen bub. If it wasn't for him, we may have not won the Battle for Africa at all. No Africa = No D-Day landing. Kapeech?

by **muy_thaiguy** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:36 pm

Actually, if Rommel had recieved much needed supplies, he would have been able to keep North Africa.

by **ignotus** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:41 pm

1. General Manager

2. General Hospital

3. General Menu

4. General Assembly

5. General Motors

:lol:

by **ignotus** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:45 pm

Minister Masket wrote:Listen bub. If it wasn't for him, we may have not won the Battle for Africa at all. No Africa = No D-Day landing. Kapeech?

Situation changed in Africa only because Americans, and by that I mean Patton came there. If there wasn't for Americans till the summer of 1945. in Tunis wouldn't be Good Morning but Gutten Morgen! Poor Monty... :idea:

by **taranwandrer** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:01 pm

lets keep it too the list of favorites.
while im at it.
let me list my top 5 least favorite

1.George McCellan
2.Hitler and Stalin (both thought they could command)
3.Haig in WWI...anybody whod charge those german positions at verdun and the somme was f'n crazy.
4.Montgomery....yes, i said it.
5.Grand Moff Tarkin

***honorable mention
Horatio Gates
Khan
John Bell Hood
MacArthur....nobody brought him up yet...im just listing him, im not downing him
Baron De Kalb
Custer
Zerxes
colonel "hair buyer" hamilton

by **0ojakeo0** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:10 pm

hannibal
washington (george)
augustus
the great
napolean(dynamite)

by **muy_thaiguy** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:14 pm

Least

1. Stalin (killed off most of his officers)
2. Hitler (Barberossa, nuff said)
3. Yuan Shao (pompous fool)
4. France's commanders over the last 100 years
5. The person at the bottom of the CC list.

by **magneticgoop** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:22 pm

Scipio Africanus-defeated Carthage for the final time

Eisenhower

Rommel

Patton

Ulysses S Grant

Robert E Lee

George Washington

Isoroku Yamamoto

i left off some of the mass conquerers because all of their empires crumbled in a short period of time

and while looking around the internet i found 2 great pix

the first is Georgi Zhukov the next Stonewall jackson. gotta love humble southern culture

by **AndrewLC** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:58 pm

Gypsys Kiss wrote:my top 5 commanders are

4. Arthur Wellesley - beat napoleon. nuff said

Haha for a second I thought you said Arthur Weasley :lol:

Also, don't you mean Wellington?

Mine are:
1. Alexander the Great
2. Scipio
3. Julius Caesar
4. Hannibal
5. Wellington

by **muy_thaiguy** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:56 pm

AndrewLC wrote:
Gypsys Kiss wrote:my top 5 commanders are

4. Arthur Wellesley - beat napoleon. nuff said

Haha for a second I thought you said Arthur Weasley
Also, don't you mean Wellington?

Mine are:
1. Alexander the Great
2. Scipio
3. Julius Caesar
4. Hannibal
5. Wellington

He was the Duke OF Wellington, not his last name. :wink:

0ojakeo0 wrote:hannibal
washington (george)
augustus
the great
napolean(dynamite)

You're f'ing kidding me, right?

by **unriggable** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:58 pm

Hmm, Julius Caesar is in my opinion the most formidable, mostly because of his technological feats (crossing that river in Germany by building a bridge in ten days, then dismantling it, for example)

by **muy_thaiguy** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:02 pm

unriggable wrote:Hmm, Julius Caesar is in my opinion the most formidable, mostly because of his technological feats (crossing that river in Germany by building a bridge in ten days, then dismantling it, for example)

Yeah, Alexander did the same, except it was the sea, and it was a fortified island he was going after, and he had very little, if any navy.

by **unriggable** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:07 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:
unriggable wrote:Hmm, Julius Caesar is in my opinion the most formidable, mostly because of his technological feats (crossing that river in Germany by building a bridge in ten days, then dismantling it, for example)
Yeah, Alexander did the same, except it was the sea, and it was a fortified island he was going after, and he had very little, if any navy.

Which Island?

by **muy_thaiguy** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:12 pm

Tyre.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Tyre

by **AndrewLC** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:54 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:
AndrewLC wrote:
Gypsys Kiss wrote:my top 5 commanders are

4. Arthur Wellesley - beat napoleon. nuff said

Haha for a second I thought you said Arthur Weasley
Also, don't you mean Wellington?

Mine are:
1. Alexander the Great
2. Scipio
3. Julius Caesar
4. Hannibal
5. Wellington
He was the Duke OF Wellington, not his last name.

0ojakeo0 wrote:hannibal
washington (george)
augustus
the great
napolean(dynamite)
You're f'ing kidding me, right?

Oh yeah, my knowlage in that era is a bit off. I mainly read about Greek/Roman times

by **muy_thaiguy** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:50 pm

AndrewLC wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
AndrewLC wrote:
Gypsys Kiss wrote:my top 5 commanders are

4. Arthur Wellesley - beat napoleon. nuff said

Haha for a second I thought you said Arthur Weasley
Also, don't you mean Wellington?

Mine are:
1. Alexander the Great
2. Scipio
3. Julius Caesar
4. Hannibal
5. Wellington
He was the Duke OF Wellington, not his last name.

0ojakeo0 wrote:hannibal
washington (george)
augustus
the great
napolean(dynamite)
You're f'ing kidding me, right?

Oh yeah, my knowlage in that era is a bit off. I mainly read about Greek/Roman times

You and me both, but military History in General Interests me.