Speed games for premium memberships only???!!!!

[Robinette]

gonna have to agree here...If A Donut shop gives out free coffee, but not free donuts, im guessing the customers will boycott because they want free donuts too.

They will take the free coffee, say thank you, and buy a donut if they want one.

What a stupid analogy

I can see a big hole in your donut analogy... badda boom

[IceIceBaby]

1. I can UNDERSTAND why it's premium only; after all few things would burden the server more than a whole bunch of speed games.

2. I did however vote that my preference is speed games being available to everyone. A fun aspect of speed / real time games is the often increased interaction in the chat. That is a fun and educational thing for newbies and will get them hooked.

3. If server load is a consideration then improved Ajax would be the ticket; freestyle games burden the server even MORE especially when played in real time. So when the map would auto-update when things happen (or at least when someone begins or ends a turn) then the server load would be reduced considerably. No need to constantly refresh then every 10 seconds, which I bet is a real bitch to the server.

4. I don't see why 'speed games' would be a separate category altogether. Let's just have a basic setting of 'time allowed per move' and leave people who set up games free to set it to any setting they like. Make establishing non-24 hour games a premium only thing then, just like establishing private games.

5. To end any confusion: Non-premium members CAN ALSO NOT JOIN an existing speed game. I'd like to be able to at least join one.

[Malkithe]

What's the difference between starting one and joining one? Either way, you still get to play.

[Cronus]

This sucks Why can't speed games be for free accounts too? Speed games are not going to make people want to become a member it is going to piss off the players who have free accounts who were thinking about. Conquer club will lose customers because of this! Unlimited games, golden ranks, and private games are enough!

poor people suck

[EmperorOfDaNorth]

Well, for starters, "joining" is better because you get to join one with lots of high ranking serious players. If you start one however you just end up with noobs who either deadbeat or kamikaze.

I don't know if I would like speed games to be available for all, after all I haven't yet been able to try one. My guess is that there's no 'suspend' option so once you get going then you may find yourself still stuck at 3am at night.

[EmperorOfDaNorth]

This sucks Why can't speed games be for free accounts too? Speed games are not going to make people want to become a member it is going to piss off the players who have free accounts who were thinking about. Conquer club will lose customers because of this! Unlimited games, golden ranks, and private games are enough!

poor people suck

eat the rich !

[Malkithe]

Well, for starters, "joining" is better because you get to join one with lots of high ranking serious players. If you start one however you just end up with noobs who either deadbeat or kamikaze.

I don't know if I would like speed games to be available for all, after all I haven't yet been able to try one. My guess is that there's no 'suspend' option so once you get going then you may find yourself still stuck at 3am at night.

So it would undermine the purpose of paying even more.

[jako]

the 5 mins in a speed game is not enough for a esc card game. i was too busy thinking about the time i have left to think about my next move. in the end i ended my turn early and allowed anotehr player in the game the chance to start a cash chain damn it.

but i think speed games should be left to prems. there are more reasons for that than not. not financially, lack wouldnt be able to support the site without the money from prems.

[the_fatty]

speed games should be for free acounts too. that will help people wanna join and stay at concour club. it doesnt make sense to make it for premium members only

[The Fuzzy Pengui]

This is pretty much a useless thread....freemium players are going to continue to say that they want more premium ways to play games, and the premium players will continue to use the rebuttle that you should pay for premium services (which is true). Instead of being mad that your free service hasn't been "upgraded" be glad that you are still able to play the same for free. Your free service hasn't been changed, big whoop! You get what you pay for, or in your case you get what you don't pay for. Quit complaining and go back to playing.

As for the deadbeat issue, unfortunately there will always be deadbeats. I can almost guarantee there will be deadbeats in speed games. However, since the turns are only 5 minutes long, it decreases the length of the whole game. This is nice, because premium users that have 20-100 games at a time are now able to quickly finish the ones people are deadbeating in.

I guess what I am trying to reitterate is what someone already said about how your service you get for free isn't changing. You can't complain because your getting a service for free, and you are not a customer because you don't pay for anything. If you were a paying "customer" you would have the right to be mad if you couldn't create speed games, but you aren't so get over it (or to use a quote from our favorite mod "Suck it up cupcake."

[the_fatty]

agh!!!!!! all of the people with premium memberships are just saying that it should only be for them because they dont care if we free members get it. therre are plenty of reasons that speed games should be for freebies

1. atract more people + keep more people
soooo many more people will join if they can play a faster paced game for free. and even some people will stop to play at concour clup because of the slow and boring pace of the games.

2. makes more sense
if people can have so many games at once then how would they keep track of all of there normal games and all of the speed games! since freebies only get to play 4 games, then y not let them play at a faster pace? if u wont give us speed games, at least give us more games.

3. why not?
there is no reason that free memberships shouldnt be allowed to play. all it does is goes back to #1. IT WILL KEEP LESS PEOPLE AT CONCOUR CLUB AND WILL KEEP LESS PEOPLE FROM JOINING!!!

see there is NO reason why freebies shouldnt get speed games

[The Fuzzy Pengui]

1. keep more people
2. since freebies only get to play 4 games, then y not let them play at a faster pace? if u wont give us speed games, at least give us more games.
3. why not?

I just edited your post to what seems like the points you were trying to make, but also they have the most obvious responses. So, to break it down for you...

1) Yes, Lack wants a lot of people to join and stay, but I think he wouldn't lose sleep over it if the amount of people that are here that have freemium accounts stop playing. It might actually help him out...it would create less server traffic, he would have less people complaining to him that they can't do more things for free, and there would be less nonsense posts to read through such as this whole topic.

2) You signed up for a free account and knew what you were getting. You are a free person that knows exactly what you signed up for and have no right to demand you receive more services for free.

3) Why not....because it allows him to make money. If freemium players could do the same thing as premium players less people would actually pay and lack would lose money. Adding games to freemium accounts makes no sense because it would create a reason for somebody who wants more games to not purchase a premium account. Allowing you to play speed games is pointless because it creates another incentive for you to purchase a premium account.

I guess my whole point is that you are getting a free service, you have no right to complain about what you get or demand more services for free

[the_fatty]

hmmmm... ok i guess ur right.

[The Fuzzy Pengui]

hmmmm... ok i guess ur right.

HOLY CRAP SOMEBODY AGREED WITH ME!

[the_fatty]

lol yea but ur reasons were right. i didnt want to agree, but ur reasons were better

[mumbles]

to keep it in prespective the reason why speed games was interduce and that was try and stop deadbeat games or to lower the number of deadbeat games
to keep it only to prem will not do any thing to deadbeat games they will still be there using up all them bytes of memory being wasted and slowing down the site

If stopping deadbeats is the plan then it failed I have had 3 dead beats in the last 3 days, start a game and disappear.How about a button you push and you Nuke their computer seems almost as doable as stopping DEADBEATS


M

[mumbles]

but we still need to address the deadbeat problem its costing more new members to cc than that stay just think if them new members had stayed they might of got a prem on a later date

Add to that sever time and space and you can save a lot of money

M

[debilcina]

There should be a difference between a Free account and the ones that have paid the money for a Premium account. You should be thankful for what you have already as a freemie.

lol you are just jellous because you pay for this, and we dont, and you wont have any use of it if we dont play it, so please stfu, have you thought about that some ppl dont have money for this shit, it's easy for you... i always hated people like you, richmans...

[comic boy]

There should be a difference between a Free account and the ones that have paid the money for a Premium account. You should be thankful for what you have already as a freemie.

lol you are just jellous because you pay for this, and we dont, and you wont have any use of it if we dont play it, so please stfu, have you thought about that some ppl dont have money for this shit, it's easy for you... i always hated people like you, richmans...

Lifes a bitch isnt it ?
You know that there are people in the world who are starving,slightly more important than not being able to play speed games...Grow up !

[oVo]

A benefit for premies?
Sounds like a good idea.
and if it means less deadbeats, even better.

[Jehan]

Well a lot of peoples parents like mine wont trust paypal no matter what u tell them so getting a premium membership is imposiable!

Well, you could head down to Walmart with $20 cash and buy a pre-paid credit card and VOILA! you are a Premium.

Oh, you might need slightly more than $20... Does anybody know if they charge a fee?

But since you are in Canada, if you live close enough to Lack I would guess you could mow his lawn just once and.....

PS- This is NOT an endorsement of Walmart... I hate pretty much everything about how they do business.

Explain! this is what has been keeping me from upgrading, how does it work?

[debilcina]

There should be a difference between a Free account and the ones that have paid the money for a Premium account. You should be thankful for what you have already as a freemie.

lol you are just jellous because you pay for this, and we dont, and you wont have any use of it if we dont play it, so please stfu, have you thought about that some ppl dont have money for this shit, it's easy for you... i always hated people like you, richmans...

Lifes a bitch isnt it ?
You know that there are people in the world who are starving,slightly more important than not being able to play speed games...Grow up !

Yea, you are hero, in real life you are donating for people starving sure, and you are helping to community for sure, so dont talk about things that you dont understand and just say that someone else will help like everybody, that's just the way you do, bravo! you are right!

[comic boy]

There should be a difference between a Free account and the ones that have paid the money for a Premium account. You should be thankful for what you have already as a freemie.

lol you are just jellous because you pay for this, and we dont, and you wont have any use of it if we dont play it, so please stfu, have you thought about that some ppl dont have money for this shit, it's easy for you... i always hated people like you, richmans...

Lifes a bitch isnt it ?
You know that there are people in the world who are starving,slightly more important than not being able to play speed games...Grow up !

Yea, you are hero, in real life you are donating for people starving sure, and you are helping to community for sure, so dont talk about things that you dont understand and just say that someone else will help like everybody, that's just the way you do, bravo! you are right!

Too much acid?

[DiM]

i haven't read the whole discussion here is my opinion.

speed games SHOULD be JUST for PREMIUM members.

why? it's actually fairly simple. if speed games are permitted to non premium members then nobody will buy premium or at least less people will buy it.


what are the reasons you need premium??

1. more games
2. starting private games.
and now speed games.

the private games are available for non premiums also just ask somebody to make them. it's easy.

but the main problem for non-premiums is that they can only play 4 games at a time. and sometimes playing just 4 games can mean you might take your turn every few days. but if non premiums are allowed speed games then they would just play 3 normal games and each day they would play as many speed games as they want. this way premiums would get enough action to satisfy their thirst of CC. if non premiums get enough action then they have no reason to buy premium, if they don't buy premium lack is going bankrupt and CC is closed.

end of discussion.

[gimil]

To add to DiMs point If non premiums were allow to play speed games then there more inclined to play them more often that premiums, why? Premiums have a much larger game load which can dominate your online time. Non premiums don't have this problem so they play them much regularly and eat up bandwidth which the premiums have paid for with there membership. Also to much activity can get the server shut down by the company that owns it. Lacks had this problem before which resulted in all non premiums beign restricted to a 2 game max.