^_^_^_^_^_^Non Villana 4 *Game Over* MAFIA WIN!^_^_^_^_^_^

[ga7]

GT, I understand your point about LSU, I guess I'm too used to him being confrontational with noobs. Fact is, there's many midly scummy noobs in this game. But still, since both of you look pretty town to me I don't see the use of extending further your argument as it's better to get back to business.

Concerning the players' review, well my memory is lacking on some but it seems overall objective. I disagree on some parts but will have to read up tomorrow to clear up a few things. A submariner lynch doesn't seem a bad idea, but there's many available to pick unfortunately. Charles77 would be a good riddance, but he's so inactive I'm not sure we could expect defense from him. Worth the shot I suppose. Either way between this and my newbie game I start to think he'd be an asset on any blacklist
I'll try to be a bit more active, I guess I got turned off at some point due to the lack of content.

[charles77]

srry i was on trip i know i should start posting more to i just stopped posting for awhile because everyoe was spamming and i was to lazy to look through the forum

[charles77]

and i will defend myself if you try to lynch me

[0ojakeo0]

and i will defend myself if you try to lynch me

vote charles77

[Wild_Tiger]

x)

[Russianfire8371]

srry i was on trip i know i should start posting more to i just stopped posting for awhile because everyoe was spamming and i was to lazy to look through the forum

how convenient for you to come back right when we start talking about you

Vote Charles77

explain yourself. Now.

[Russianfire8371]

Following up on what i said about IGS.

He has no excuse not actively participating. He's been online and posting on other topics today. BIG FOS on IGS once we figure out about Charles here

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Unvote Vote Wild_Tiger again a post without any content.

G_T the games you're used to seeing me play in also didn't have a bunch of knuckleheads in it acting dumb(noobs). Early on if there is an idiot in the midst and wants to act scummy I will go for them unless they have given a good reason not to or if I catch a good scumtell sign of a vet. Neither eddie or mc gave a good reason on why not to vote them although mac got an unfortunate hammer early before he could claim from an overzealous noob.

Nonvanilla means everyone is a possible cop, sk, or something and as such we will lose a "good" role everytime someone that is town is lynched or dies via scum, sk, or vig. While it sucks to lose a townie, if it's someone that isn't going to post anything worthwhile then they are deadweight.

[I GOT SERVED]

Sorry guys. I've been running orientation for new students at my school, so my schedule's been rather tight the past few days.

As for the game....I'm not really sure as to who looks the scummiest. Charles77 hasn't been too active, but he is pretty new to mafia. So I'll cut him some slack. But that only goes so far. If he doesn't post much more, then I'll start to get worried a bit.

[Wild_Tiger]

Unvote Vote Wild_Tiger again a post without any content.

G_T the games you're used to seeing me play in also didn't have a bunch of knuckleheads in it acting dumb(noobs). Early on if there is an idiot in the midst and wants to act scummy I will go for them unless they have given a good reason not to or if I catch a good scumtell sign of a vet. Neither eddie or mc gave a good reason on why not to vote them although mac got an unfortunate hammer early before he could claim from an overzealous noob.

Nonvanilla means everyone is a possible cop, sk, or something and as such we will lose a "good" role everytime someone that is town is lynched or dies via scum, sk, or vig. While it sucks to lose a townie, if it's someone that isn't going to post anything worthwhile then they are deadweight.

I just found it funny, so f*cking what.
are you just trying to raise suspection about anybody or something.
not every post has to include content of importance, it still is a game, which is meant for fun.

[Skittles!]

Wild_Tiger, don't you think it's a bit strange that you posted more after I voted for you? To keep you more active, I'm going to keep my vote on you until further notice.

[Fircoal]

Vote Count

WT (3) skittles, WT, LSU,
Life-Saver (1) ga7,
charles77 (2) 0ojakeo0, Russian,

17 Alive, 9 to Lynch, 8 to get a new car

[Skittles!]

Vote Count

Firth (1) LSU,
WT (3) skittles, WT, LSU,
Life-Saver (1) ga7,
charles77 (2) 0ojakeo0, Russian,

17 Alive, 9 to Lynch, 8 to get a new car

to the bold.

[Minister Masket]

Minister Masket - was much more involved yesterday and proposed a few lines of thought, although i did not agree with him, still was helpful in generating discussion. Would be an asset to the town to keep talking as i feel information from him could be useful

Like hell you'd agree with me. My argument was against you!

[firth4eva]

my suspicions are with WT and charles but i also think that there are some largely inactive players who seem to be a threat too. exile?

but i will vote charles so that there is equal pressure on him and wild_tiger.
i also advise that unless you are certain, do not put any more votes on these 2 because we have enough mafia for just a quick i agree pile up lynch

[Sierra_Leon]

I looked back at day 1 and 2 to see who was voting for who, and more importantly: who was covering for who. Since we can't trust the roles fircoal shows us, people covering for eachother are either mafia, masons or lovers. A cop could also be covering for someone he found to be innocent.

0ojakeo0 - from time to time is active...but posts very little if anything of value not incredibly helpful to our cause

Joined the bandwagon both times. Also voted for Russianfire once.

got tonkaed - i attempt to stay active in getting more information out, yet if theres a criticism of me i guess i have been noncommittal thus far

Was accused of protecting cena day one. FOSsed IGS, MM and Gimpy day two.

LSU Tiger Josh - very active, however i think is overextending his actual ability at the moment and is leading to bad town results

Covered for sheepofdumb day two.

Russianfire8371 - has been active and has posted some insight, i disagree with him very recently but by in large has acted fairly helpfully, without being a hinderance to town

Covered for tonka day two.

live-saver - has also been active, slightly less helpful but has still added opinions at times, possibly a little to willing to bandwagon thus far.

Joined the bandwagon both times.

sheepofdumb - has not been very active, and has not posted much of value when he has been, has been known to become active if in dangerous of lynching, a potential candidate for submarine lynch

Voted eddie day one, no further activity.

Charles77 - has done nothing at all, and if we are looking for a submarine lynch this seemingly is our best target, of no help to the town

Covered for eddie day one, joined the bandwagon day two.

firth4eva - only recently has posted due to internet issue, has yet to make any real mark on the game

Voted Wild_Tiger day one, no further activity.

Wild_Tiger - has posted a little here and there but has not really been valuable and should consider doing more or suspicion should soon arise

Voted eddie day one, didn't vote day two.

ga7 - pops in from time to time and ranges from helpful to barely noticable, could be more consistant but because of worse players out there is given a reprieve for now

Joined the bandwagon both times.

Minister Masket - was much more involved yesterday and proposed a few lines of thought, although i did not agree with him, still was helpful in generating discussion. Would be an asset to the town to keep talking as i feel information from him could be useful

Voted charles day one. FOSsed tonka day two.

Skittles! - was one of the better town players thus far. Was willing to engage in discussion and look back in the thread to get information and lines of thought rolling. IF town is going to win this game, skittles will play a big part

FOSsed IGS, MM and Gimpy day two.

Sierra_Leon - hasnt said a whole lot, but was helpful when did take the time to speak. Could help the town more with further interaction

Sorry for not being really helpful day two, I'm pretty busy at the moment.

the1exile - does a pretty good job of checking in, but i feel should defintely be doing more to help the town. Too good of a player to be as relatively uninvolved as he is

Voted cena day one, voted McSnipe day two.

I GOT SERVED - has not spoken much and has been relatively unhelpful to town. Should be considered a potential candidate for submarine lynch

FOSsed tonka.

The way i see it, there are probably 6 or 7 ish active players and 3 or 4 which can be pretty helpful toward a town victory, assuming none of them are scum (which is no lock). These numbers simply have to improve or the end result will be fairly easy to discern.

There is no bigger criminal right now than those who could be talking and are saying very little.

People that appear pro-town to me:
Tonka, LSU, Russianfire, Charles77, Skittles! (and myself of course)

People that look kinda scummy:
0ojakeo0, live-saver, Wild_Tiger, ga7, IGS

People I can't get a read on:
sheepofdumb, firth4eva, MM, the1exile


Some of these are just hunches. For instance Charles77: he acted pretty scummy on occasions, but I get the feeling that it's just his noobiness and that he is really pro-town, like I believe eddie was. I'd rather see we lynch W_T and not him.

[Wild_Tiger]

Wild_Tiger, don't you think it's a bit strange that you posted more after I voted for you? To keep you more active, I'm going to keep my vote on you until further notice.

your vote didnt really influence that, I was unexpectedly away most of the day the days before.

[Skittles!]

Wild_Tiger, don't you think it's a bit strange that you posted more after I voted for you? To keep you more active, I'm going to keep my vote on you until further notice.

your vote didnt really influence that, I was unexpectedly away most of the day the days before.

Damn.. Oh well, I'm going to keep my vote on you either way.

[The1exile]

I'll be reading back and posting shortly after having eaten.

[The1exile]

FOS LSU and firth4eva

Vote charles

Defence should come now, not when you're about to be lynched.

[firth4eva]

unvote charles vote W_T

why the fos on me exile?

[firth4eva]

no changed my mind.
unvote vote charles

[ga7]

Fiou, ok just read back day 2.
First, concerning the lists. On GT's one mostly based on activity, I disagree with the parts about MM and Skittles. MM didn't bring that much to the table, even though I understand from an unexperienced point of view why he was so focused on GT day 2. Then Skittles. I think you have a bit of bias there GT, probably because he seems to agree with you a lot. For example:

Okay. Skip that part.

I notice how Wild_Tiger has hardly participated in this game, with the "spam on" posts. This is seriously annoying, and he's not inputting anything into the game. He may have a big pro-town role, but to me he's not doing anything very productive for the town, if he is pro-town.

This has led me to vote Wild_Tiger.

That post makes my scumdar ping. Seeming to follow a bandwagon but at the same time justifying his vote should WT get lynched and prove to be a power role. Why so much emphasis on the fact he could be pro town? FOS on that.

As for SL's one, it's good to have vote records, even though it's beyond me that you can trust so many people right now

Gimpy made a good post on day 2, which was the main reason I voted McSnipe. Even though he was a survivor I think it'd be good to look at it again:

vote mcsnipe

here's why: I don't actually think he's scum, but i think there was a string of scum that voted for him. Starting w/ Russian. Russian used what Skittles said about scum calling people scum against mcsnipe. But i sure don't recall mcsnipe saying that. I remember LSU calling mcsnipe scum but not the other way around. Next we have IGS quoteing what Russian said as evidence for his vote. Then Charles jumped on th ebandwagon after not saying anything fora couple days.

SO: i believe 2 if not all 3 of these people are scum, w/ the further possibility that LSU and his attack dog mentality is the godfather.

of course this all goes out the window if Mcsnipe is scum but i think that we will learn quite a bit either way from this lynch

So here's some suspects.
Charles77, since he defended Eddie for some reason, doesn't appear that scummy at the moment (at least for a noob). His submarining ways bug me, I'll see if they change. Either way, he looks more like a backup candidate for a lynch.
LSU, well his witch hunts look a bit suspicious; but not enough evidence for me as he puts noobs on the grill regardless of his alignment.
Russianfire is a more interesting case. He seems active and helping, but probably pushed the hardest for McSnipe's lynch. IGMEOY.
Then IGS. Submarining and hoping on wagon. He's a pretty low-profile player from what I saw, but I get scum vibes from him.

About WT. He seemed distant, putting a joke vote on himself, then participated a bit more. I'm not convinced at this point that it's the best option.

I won't cover everyone else but as for general behavior Firth & Jake seem to hop on wagons a lot without much input.

For now, I'll unvote vote IGS, at the moment the one I'm the most suspicious of.

[Minister Masket]

*puts straw in mouth*

TONKAAAAA!
I'm calling yoo OOUTTT!

[sheepofdumb]

Well I wasn't very active because there wasn't big posts that compelled me to look into and I have been kinda lazy so I'm not going through and reading 54 pages to come up with a few thoughts. I'm saving my brainpower for school . Now that there are some big posts, especially Tonkaed's thoughts on people I don't have to work as hard on watching people. I am probably going through and reading everything this weekend but for now I'm going to sit back a bit and see these arguments heat up and decide for myself.