What is happening to our CC?

[Rocketry]

The players leaving is bound too happen, don't worry about that. But for every oldie that leaves, there's about 50 new recruits joining up. Some of them are bound to stay and become good members too.

yea as he said

great players like ME! for instance

Rocketry

[NOHIBBERTNO]

i was asking for an example, a link, something......

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24840 and any other topic that guy has made.....

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15958

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23536

[comic boy]

what's this bragging you two are speaking of?

Really? There are so many threads dedicated to bragging! Even in callouts where people look down on you because you have fewer points than them. It happpens. I mean i dont have that many points, but thats mainly due to lack of games. Im sure if I spend time on here and work at it one day I will reach rank of captain and then I will see if I have to be as arrogant and downgrading as some people on the forums seem to be.....

In callouts people are not bragging,they are simply stating a wish to play with people of the same calibre as themselves. The reasons for this have been explained to you several times before but it seems you are either too ignorant to comprehend or more likely would rather just muck rake.

[Coleman]

It's like a good RTS game. You can beat the new players easy and it is boring. So you see better players wanting to play better players. It isn't about being full of yourself.

[Optimus Prime]

I play for the tournaments. That is my sole purpose on this site nowadays. However, I have a feeling that the update that is supposed to be coming sometime in August (lackattack's very words) will provide some new stuff for us. It is supposed to be included some new gameplay features and better deadbeating measures. That should liven things up quite a bit.

[comic boy]

i was asking for an example, a link, something......

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24840 and any other topic that guy has made.....

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15958

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23536

These are specific threads not players barging in to general chat and bragging, why are you reading them if they so offend you ? You come across as somebody who hates to see others do well and would rather snipe at them then actually aspire to better them.

[luns101]

The only thing wrong with this site lately has been my latest losing streak. Once that is corrected, things should be back to normal.

[Fag_Ash]

people in general just get bored.... i played online poker every night for about 2 years.... got bored.... haven't played for about a year now.... players will come and go, as with anything.... new maps, tournaments and forums will ensure there is something to interest anyone that has come far enough to find them..... surely with this game though its the battle of minds that keeps people playing? regardless of rank... you either want to topple the captains or majors or on the other hand..... prove you won't be beaten by the newcomers, recruits or cooks! my rank is forever up and down...daily, probably cos i play too many games at once... but a drop in rank encourages me to get it back and a rise encourages me to try and stay there.... i suppose to summarise these ramblings... im not bored of CC... and i think the challenge will prevent that happening anytime soon..... but people will get bored and leave... but newbies will join and get hooked... its the cycle of CC!!

[AAFitz]

... There are so many threads dedicated to bragging! Even in callouts where people look down on you because you have fewer points than them. It happpens. I mean i dont have that many points, but thats mainly due to lack of games. Im sure if I spend time on here and work at it one day I will reach rank of captain and then I will see if I have to be as arrogant and downgrading as some people on the forums seem to be.....

im a captain, and im not downgrading anyone... i chose to work for some points, so i got some...and i personally like the threads about who has the most points, whose the best at what type...it gives you something to shoot for...it makes it competitive, so it makes winning all the more fun

this is a competitive game based on world domination...your goal is to wipe your opponent off the map through strategy, and sometimes dumb luck....for the most part, players choose how many points they have...they make the decisions to get those points...ie play the right games, concentrate hard...the threads about score arent bragging, they are challenges to all to keep up, which is what makes the game so fun...

if it wasnt for the score, and the challenge of gaining points, I might have just as well thrown 200000 dice down the stairs, and never checked what they were

[Fircoal]

It kind of is, in my opinion or at least the forums, it seems that a lot more people are gone and that not as many new people are staying. But as Wicked said, it goes in a rotation, for example mafia, when I look at my old games, and the other ones, I can see many players who played then, but don't play anymore, and the few that stayed.

[gimil]

Your Premium Membership is valid until 2009-01-05 00:53:20

I'll be here a while.

how much did that skin you?

[Nephilim]

what's this bragging you two are speaking of?

Really? There are so many threads dedicated to bragging! Even in callouts where people look down on you because you have fewer points than them. It happpens. I mean i dont have that many points, but thats mainly due to lack of games. Im sure if I spend time on here and work at it one day I will reach rank of captain and then I will see if I have to be as arrogant and downgrading as some people on the forums seem to be.....

i was asking for an example, a link, something......

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24840 and any other topic that guy has made.....

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15958

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23536

#1: i definitely agree, JR is a braggart. and he creates lots of threads to make himself feel better. but so what? this is one guy; you're saying he's ruining CC for you? i won't go as far as comic boy and call you a hater, but i do think you sound like a little like a whiner. do you have a pet peeve with braggarts? if so, it probably indicates something about yourself.

#2: robin's "best singles scores" thread? here's the thing mate. many, many people consider singles games as the best and truest test of skill. in this view, team games are easier. so these folks would like to have a record of what the scoreboard would look like w/ no team games. i personally play a lot of team games, so this view is in some sense disparaging to me and other players like me. but that's ok. it doesn't make me feel bad.

and from another perspective: if you think this method of keeping score is arrogant, then logically you must assume that any scorekeeping, or determination of winners and losers, is also arrogant. if you would like to follow your reasoning to its ultimate conclusion, then i invite you to leave CC, b/c it is a gaming site w/ a winner and one or more losers in every game. however, if winning and competition equal arrogance in your mind, and make you feel bad, then leaving CC will not solve your problem.

#3: in the callout thread in question and many other scenarios, high score players set a minimum score for games. i cannot speak for anyone but myself, but i think many folks would agree w/ the following reason for doing so. it's not b/c of arrogance. it's b/c a series of clan or individual challenge matches, or even a regular bunch of games among certain groups, should not force the players involved to risk an inordinate amount of their points. thus, minimum limits are created so that if a loss occurs (and we all know luck and not merely skill is involved here), it does not hurt the losing players too badly. if you can't handle this and it seems arrogant, let me suggest something: deal with it. if you want to play w/ the big boys, dedicate a month to increasing your score so you can get up there. if you can't get there, you don't deserve to play. if you think it's stupid, useless, and unfair that things work this way, then you may have a fundamental misunderstanding of the concept of competition.

one more thing: if you think it's stupid that people care so much about points, and that we should all just be playing for fun, i offer these thoughts. first off, a lot of us think winning is fun. period. but more importantly, when one sets minimum point limits for their games, one is attempting to insure that no idiotic gameplay will occur. this is done to increase the level of fun in the game, b/c idiotic moves ruin many games. and in fact, those that ruin games w/ bad moves are often people below certain relative point levels. stick around long enough, and you'll learn that is how things work. so again, if you want to get a reputation that you can play, so you can get some games w/ the best players, you gotta put in the work and pay your dues. cheers, good luck, and suck it up cupcake!

[reelkmcn]

I don't know what everyone is talking about on this so called decline. Since I have joined, I have kept an average of 10 games going when I have the time. (wife upset that I was on too long taking turns ). CC is one of the coolest sites I am on, day, night, work, home. I bought premium only a couple of months joining! I'm here (except for vacations, some weekends, and when the wife needs care ).

Long Live Conquer Club!

[reelkmcn]

one more thing: if you think it's stupid that people care so much about points, and that we should all just be playing for fun, i offer these thoughts. first off, a lot of us think winning is fun. period. but more importantly, when one sets minimum point limits for their games, one is attempting to insure that no idiotic gameplay will occur. this is done to increase the level of fun in the game, b/c idiotic moves ruin many games. and in fact, those that ruin games w/ bad moves are often people below certain relative point levels. stick around long enough, and you'll learn that is how things work. so again, if you want to get a reputation that you can play, so you can get some games w/ the best players, you gotta put in the work and pay your dues. cheers, good luck, and suck it up cupcake!

Nephilim, I would agree with you on this statement, however, I have made moves that in my minds layout of the game were good until my dice fall apart. Yet others have tagged me in chat saying it was a bonehead move because now this person is going to win. WHO CARES WHOS GOING TO WIN IF IT'S NOT ME! They are just ticked off because it hurt them as well. We all don't get together and say "hey what are you going to do" that's not how it is played. I have played High ranks that suck and low ranks that have mopped me horribly. I think it is all on several things.

1. Starting Placement
2. Freak'n Dice
3. Knowledge of the game
4. Smart Moves
5. Jumping all over someone else's mistake.

I certainly don't think someone should jump down someone if they don't like there moves. HOWEVER, I do agree, if some people dislike playing lower ranks, then join a game that allows that. I think that we are missing the essence of the game by sticking with the same people all the time if we are not willing to teach the "younglings" or "rookies"

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[Nephilim]

one more thing: if you think it's stupid that people care so much about points, and that we should all just be playing for fun, i offer these thoughts. first off, a lot of us think winning is fun. period. but more importantly, when one sets minimum point limits for their games, one is attempting to insure that no idiotic gameplay will occur. this is done to increase the level of fun in the game, b/c idiotic moves ruin many games. and in fact, those that ruin games w/ bad moves are often people below certain relative point levels. stick around long enough, and you'll learn that is how things work. so again, if you want to get a reputation that you can play, so you can get some games w/ the best players, you gotta put in the work and pay your dues. cheers, good luck, and suck it up cupcake!

Nephilim, I would agree with you on this statement, however, I have made moves that in my minds layout of the game were good until my dice fall apart. Yet others have tagged me in chat saying it was a bonehead move because now this person is going to win. WHO CARES WHOS GOING TO WIN IF IT'S NOT ME! They are just ticked off because it hurt them as well. We all don't get together and say "hey what are you going to do" that's not how it is played. I have played High ranks that suck and low ranks that have mopped me horribly. I think it is all on several things.

1. Starting Placement
2. Freak'n Dice
3. Knowledge of the game
4. Smart Moves
5. Jumping all over someone else's mistake.

I certainly don't think someone should jump down someone if they don't like there moves. HOWEVER, I do agree, if some people dislike playing lower ranks, then join a game that allows that. I think that we are missing the essence of the game by sticking with the same people all the time if we are not willing to teach the "younglings" or "rookies"

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thanks for the reply. i disagree w/ some of it. for instance, "who cares who wins if it's not me." i have never favored another player after i was ruined in a game. however, the point i was trying to make is this: bad players ruin the balance or the "competitive sanctity" of a game. if you try a ridiculous, nigh-unto-impossible attack that throws the game terribly out of whack, steals it from the player(s) deserving of the win, and gives it to an undeserving player, then you have made a mistake. you have cheated the better players out of a deserved victory w/ a stupid move, and essentially due to your own selfishness and ignorance. now, even tho i've used "you" repeatedly above, i'm not saying you've ever done this. sometimes a statistically logical attack is ruined by dice, as you described. if your opponents disparage you after such a turn, then they probably weren't playing close attention to what actually happened, or they're idiots.

in truth, when you get above a certain level, it is most often not about whether someone "likes your moves or not." most players above a certain level (and i'm really not there), can recognize the proper move and if someone messed up or not. sometimes these mistakes can lead to criticism, or even accusations of cheating. each case must be dealt w/ on it's own.

look forward to seeing you on the battlefield......

[AndyDufresne]

With the updates coming in these next few months...I think CC will be booming bigger and better than it currently is... It'll be a fun couple of months!


--Andy