mushroomman, The Zsar [blocked]

[AAFitz]

These are suspected Multis

Suspect users: <The Zsar, Mushroom man>

Game numbers:
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=556185

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=643143
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=644340



Comments: Very possibly wrong here, but mushroom man handed this guy a game on a silver platter, with no conceivable motivation except to let him win, and I let it go at first, but when I checked the two player games they played afterwards...he seemed to attack neutral and not attack on his turn more than anything....

further, in one of the games Zsar types out gg Zsar...and then possibly tries to cover it with the phrase, thats what your supposed to type mate. Again, possibly a joke, but somewhat suspect considering the situation

there is however the possibility, that mushroomman is just a really bad player, and since he's new, that is possible, but because of all of this, it was worth a quick look, just to make sure....if you guys are honest, sorry

Zsar has played quite a few games, and I cant see why he'd start a multi now, so if they arent multies, ill delete this completely


<AAFitz>

[chessplaya]

never thought of the day where aafitz will be accusing 2 players of multisism!!!

[SirSebstar]

Looks for the sky falling down...

[AAFitz]

never thought of the day where aafitz will be accusing 2 players of multisism!!!

only the third time, and im only asking for a quick multi check... the gg Zsar was too suspicious for me to not post....but its all deleted if they arent multis...I dont care what mushroom was doing if he isnt Zsar

[firth4eva]

fill out the form

[chessplaya]

fill out the form

he did

[oVo]

I was part of this game and watched as Mushroomman ignored the strongest player on the map while going to great lengths and expense of his armies to reduce and eliminate the fortifications of the rest. He obviously thought AAFitz's large fortifications with his 6 bonus was a bigger threat than the strongest player's 35 bonus.

At one point Mushroomman was the dominant force in the game which he eventually lost to The Zsar, a player he never bothered to fortify against or challenge. Since they are both from the UK it appeared he was just doing his mate a favor.

I gave him the benefit of the doubt, figuring he made some dumb moves while totally ignoring current events and wasn't "intentionally" throwing the game to The Zsar. My neutral feedback and comments left for him was rewarded today with a retaliatory negative. So now the cycle is complete.

[Incandenza]

Having looked at the games in question, I think fitz has just cause for asking for a quick check. The 1v1 freestyle game they played was particularly odd, as actions were taken in alternating blocks.

[sully800]

I think when zsar said "gg zsar" he sealed the deal. They chat with each other a lot, but a mistake like that can do you in.

The Zsar, Mushroom man are busted along with CommradeDan, MarkAntony

Sorry for the delay, we have a very busy crew.

[AAFitz]

I think when zsar said "gg zsar" he sealed the deal. They chat with each other a lot, but a mistake like that can do you in.

The Zsar, Mushroom man are busted along with CommradeDan, MarkAntony

Sorry for the delay, we have a very busy crew.

never a problem on my end, Im just glad it didnt sit there for that long and have him be innocent...I obviously wasnt 100% sure on this one...the gg Zsar is the only reason I posted...

great multi attempt on this one...two distinct voices and everything...Zsar always made sure he was quiet, while mushroom went off, and always said mate, while mushroom was more blunt

all that time for just a few points....

hell mushrooms attacks were so utterly blatent, it was practically an alibi

[sully800]

The four names in question claim to be roommates who share a computer. Last month (shortly after I responded to this thread) Andy cleared them of the bust, and blocked them from playing together instead. Perhaps there was a secret alliance that led to those suspicious attacks, or perhaps it was just coincidence, but the players are not busted as multis. If oVo of AAfitz would like to revise their feedback accordingly they may do so.

[sully800]

Also AA, for reference: You said if they aren't multis you would delete the thread completely. I suppose that's your right if you wanted to, but threads where people are cleared and blocked but not busted are very valuable for the community to see. After all if players are cleared and they have a thread showing that, they can use it as evidence in future cases of suspected multi-ing. So leaving a thread active that had an incorrect accusation is probably more beneficial to the accused than deleting it would be.

[DeCaptain]

If they aren't multis shouldn't the title be changed from busted to blocked? That way people who are just browsing the forum don't get the wrong impression.

[AAFitz]

Im glad they arent multies


I left them Zsar the appropriate feedback since they pretended not to know each other, and mushroom systematically killed the other players so the Zsar could win

mushroom also fed him points in games by attacking neutral and not attacking him

Ill leave the thread as is. The games speak for themselves on this one. If anyone questions the accusations, they can look at the games to see if they are warranted.

[oVo]

Originally leaving Mushroom neutral feedback, he left me a retaliatory negative and I didn't bother leaving feedback for The Zsar because I figured the multi would be banned from this site. When I discovered he was still here I did leave him feedback.

The Zsar then sent me a message, "I understand why you felt the need to have Mushroomman and I investigated but the truth is we are house mates. There was no alliance between us either even though we are mates, in fact we are very competitive," and now I have left negatives for both. I feel the lame BS they pulled just to pick up a cheap win, with no regard for their opponents or the game, still merits this feedback.

There was nothing competitive between these two in this game, The Zsar fortified --unopposed by Mushroomman-- while Mushroomman demolished any potential opposition. Nice job mates.

[nagerous]

Another one of the Zsar's mates Mark Anthony is pretty dirty playing here:

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=667540

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=667741

seems to me like this guy has got off very lightly with only a block

[AAFitz]

Another one of the Zsar's mates Mark Anthony is pretty dirty playing here:

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=667540

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=667741

seems to me like this guy has got off very lightly with only a block

Yeah, its exactly the same scenario...the Zsar keeps quiet the whole time...his "housemate" goes around demolishing the other players, and self righteous in the chat saying "hes just making mistakes, and that players shouldnt point them out to them"

whats really funny is the Zsar keeps pming me to change his neutral feedback because he doesnt feel he should be blamed just because his close friends join his games and hand them to him.....

thats what the feedback is for Zsar....its exactly what its for...you made your choices...now you deal with it

And mind you, he never once appologizes for any of this...simply states he was cleared of multi accounts and is therefore innocent

Funny stuff.

[sully800]

If they aren't multis shouldn't the title be changed from busted to blocked? That way people who are just browsing the forum don't get the wrong impression.

Yep, that is my fault and I apologize for forgetting to change it the other day. I fixed it now.