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Postby heavycola on Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:01 pm

A friend announced on saturday that muhammad ali was the most overrated sportsman ever. This is an insane thing to say, isn't it? He was the greatest sportsman of all time. There can be no argument.
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Postby Ronnie_K on Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:10 pm

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Postby heavycola on Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:12 pm

yeah a bit. I slowed down a lot though.
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Postby dyingfetus on Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:12 pm

I can't doubt Ali's skills, i just hate him.
I don't know about BEST EVER though :?
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Postby heavycola on Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:13 pm

dyingfetus wrote:I can't doubt Ali's skills, i just hate him.
I don't know about BEST EVER though :?


why hate?
And who is greater IYO?
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Postby dyingfetus on Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:17 pm

heavycola wrote:
dyingfetus wrote:I can't doubt Ali's skills, i just hate him.
I don't know about BEST EVER though :?


why hate?
And who is greater IYO?


Non reason, I just don't like him, he was too cocky, he had the stuff to back it up, but I just don't like real cocky people, and you can't really say someone is the best ever, because that makes it hard to compare other athletes from their rspective sports.
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Postby dyingfetus on Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:18 pm

He may have been one of the best boxers of all time, but I wouldn't call him the best athlete of all time, he may suck at football, or be a terrible weightlifter. So those guys are better than him.....at their respective events.
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Postby Ronnie_K on Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:24 pm

dyingfetus wrote:He may have been one of the best boxers of all time, but I wouldn't call him the best athlete of all time, he may suck at football, or be a terrible weightlifter. So those guys are better than him.....at their respective events.


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Re: muhammad ali - the greatest

Postby Huckleberryhound on Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:29 pm

heavycola wrote:A friend announced on saturday that muhammad ali was the most overrated sportsman ever. This is an insane thing to say, isn't it? He was the greatest sportsman of all time. There can be no argument.



Henry Cooper was robbed, he should've won by default when Ali's corner men cut his gloves :P
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Postby Gold Knight on Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:30 pm

Ronnie_K wrote:
dyingfetus wrote:He may have been one of the best boxers of all time, but I wouldn't call him the best athlete of all time, he may suck at football, or be a terrible weightlifter. So those guys are better than him.....at their respective events.


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What kind of insult is calling someone a shower????

Anyway... I definately wouldnt say best athlete of all time, but he was pretty damn close. Best boxer i'd say by a long shot, though Frazier was a close second for giving Ali his toughest competition. But its hard to say best athlete, becuase alll sports are so varied. Say golf, you dont have to be athletic (ex. John Daly), but can still be awesome.
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Postby heavycola on Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:04 pm

dyingfetus wrote:He may have been one of the best boxers of all time, but I wouldn't call him the best athlete of all time, he may suck at football, or be a terrible weightlifter. So those guys are better than him.....at their respective events.


well yeah but every sport has its legends. Ali was the greatest boxer of all time, pele or maradona was the greatest footballer, maybe tiger will be the greatest golfer... but to be the greatest sportsman/woman you have to transcend sport. Ali did that. He was a poet, a conscientious objector, a showman...

PS after his cornerman widened an existing hole in his glove to buy some time, he took 'enry cooper to pieces :twisted:
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Postby Huckleberryhound on Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:09 pm

heavycola wrote:
dyingfetus wrote:He may have been one of the best boxers of all time, but I wouldn't call him the best athlete of all time, he may suck at football, or be a terrible weightlifter. So those guys are better than him.....at their respective events.


well yeah but every sport has its legends. Ali was the greatest boxer of all time, pele or maradona was the greatest footballer, maybe tiger will be the greatest golfer... but to be the greatest sportsman/woman you have to transcend sport. Ali did that. He was a poet, a conscientious objector, a showman...

PS after his cornerman widened an existing hole in his glove to buy some time, he took 'enry cooper to pieces :twisted:


What they did was...cheated.

They widened the hole to buy him enough time, because he was losing his title to the better sportsman...it was a traversty and he doesn't deserve the name "sportsman" after that unsporting show.
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Postby heavycola on Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:12 pm

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heavycola wrote:
dyingfetus wrote:He may have been one of the best boxers of all time, but I wouldn't call him the best athlete of all time, he may suck at football, or be a terrible weightlifter. So those guys are better than him.....at their respective events.


well yeah but every sport has its legends. Ali was the greatest boxer of all time, pele or maradona was the greatest footballer, maybe tiger will be the greatest golfer... but to be the greatest sportsman/woman you have to transcend sport. Ali did that. He was a poet, a conscientious objector, a showman...

PS after his cornerman widened an existing hole in his glove to buy some time, he took 'enry cooper to pieces :twisted:


What they did was...cheated.

They widened the hole to buy him enough time, because he was losing his title to the better sportsman...it was a traversty and he doesn't deserve the name "sportsman" after that unsporting show.


it wasn't a title fight, and you can't blame him for what his trainer did. Anyway henry cooper used to fill his gloves with nails and throw glitter into his opponents' faces
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Postby Huckleberryhound on Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:16 pm

heavycola wrote:
Huckleberryhound wrote:
heavycola wrote:
dyingfetus wrote:He may have been one of the best boxers of all time, but I wouldn't call him the best athlete of all time, he may suck at football, or be a terrible weightlifter. So those guys are better than him.....at their respective events.


well yeah but every sport has its legends. Ali was the greatest boxer of all time, pele or maradona was the greatest footballer, maybe tiger will be the greatest golfer... but to be the greatest sportsman/woman you have to transcend sport. Ali did that. He was a poet, a conscientious objector, a showman...

PS after his cornerman widened an existing hole in his glove to buy some time, he took 'enry cooper to pieces :twisted:


Talk crap.

Henry Cooper beat Ali...end of.

What they did was...cheated.

They widened the hole to buy him enough time, because he was losing his title to the better sportsman...it was a traversty and he doesn't deserve the name "sportsman" after that unsporting show.


it wasn't a title fight, and you can't blame him for what his trainer did. Anyway henry cooper used to fill his gloves with nails and throw glitter into his opponents' faces
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Postby Bigfalcon65 on Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:29 pm

Gold Knight wrote:
Ronnie_K wrote:
dyingfetus wrote:He may have been one of the best boxers of all time, but I wouldn't call him the best athlete of all time, he may suck at football, or be a terrible weightlifter. So those guys are better than him.....at their respective events.


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What kind of insult is calling someone a shower????

Anyway... I definately wouldnt say best athlete of all time, but he was pretty damn close. Best boxer i'd say by a long shot, though Frazier was a close second for giving Ali his toughest competition. But its hard to say best athlete, becuase alll sports are so varied. Say golf, you dont have to be athletic (ex. John Daly), but can still be awesome.


Ali is not the best all time, but take nothing away from him hes very very very good
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Postby dyingfetus on Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:23 pm

Ronnie_K wrote:
dyingfetus wrote:He may have been one of the best boxers of all time, but I wouldn't call him the best athlete of all time, he may suck at football, or be a terrible weightlifter. So those guys are better than him.....at their respective events.


Hey You You're A Shower!
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Who the hell are you to call me a shower?!? Doesn't even make any sense, and how was what I said remotley reacist at all!
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Postby heavycola on Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:28 pm

Bigfalcon65 wrote:
Gold Knight wrote:
Ronnie_K wrote:
dyingfetus wrote:He may have been one of the best boxers of all time, but I wouldn't call him the best athlete of all time, he may suck at football, or be a terrible weightlifter. So those guys are better than him.....at their respective events.


Hey You You're A Shower!
Thats Racist!
Ali Is The Best Boxer
And Best Footballer


What kind of insult is calling someone a shower????

Anyway... I definately wouldnt say best athlete of all time, but he was pretty damn close. Best boxer i'd say by a long shot, though Frazier was a close second for giving Ali his toughest competition. But its hard to say best athlete, becuase alll sports are so varied. Say golf, you dont have to be athletic (ex. John Daly), but can still be awesome.


Ali is not the best all time, but take nothing away from him hes very very very good


So who IS/WAS the best of all time? Everyone keeps sayign Ali wasn't - so who was? GODDAMIT i want an ARGUMENT
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Postby Psilocbin on Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:39 pm

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Postby JoeBeevers on Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:44 pm

Prince Nas was the best.
I used to copy his moves in the boozer when his fights was on.
I decked a 20 stone docker after Nas threw an uppercut in the telly screens direction
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Postby DirtyDishSoap on Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:45 pm

Nas sucks compared to Ali
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Postby Gold Knight on Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:27 pm

Bigfalcon65 wrote:
Gold Knight wrote:
Ronnie_K wrote:
dyingfetus wrote:He may have been one of the best boxers of all time, but I wouldn't call him the best athlete of all time, he may suck at football, or be a terrible weightlifter. So those guys are better than him.....at their respective events.


Hey You You're A Shower!
Thats Racist!
Ali Is The Best Boxer
And Best Footballer


What kind of insult is calling someone a shower????

Anyway... I definately wouldnt say best athlete of all time, but he was pretty damn close. Best boxer i'd say by a long shot, though Frazier was a close second for giving Ali his toughest competition. But its hard to say best athlete, becuase alll sports are so varied. Say golf, you dont have to be athletic (ex. John Daly), but can still be awesome.


Ali is not the best all time, but take nothing away from him hes very very very good


Bullshit hes not the best boxer of all time. There was not a single strategy that could be made to fight him, yet he could always implement a strategy against his opponent. The only way to knock him down was a lucky punch on his chin, because there was no way a body shot would ever take him down. And there wasn't and still isnt't a boxer in the heavyweight division who has the punch speed of Ali.
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Postby Jehan on Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:42 pm

dude can the guy whos saying ali isnt the best ever please suggest an alternative?
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Postby Huckleberryhound on Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:17 pm

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