D2 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

[SoN!c]

Official vote count:


Devon: (3) Charle, Halrob, Hjelp
EW: (1) Loose Canon
Darin: (1) Devon
Hjelp: (1) Ragian



With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

[hjelp]

Hm...

I hit a sore spot. Ragian continues to change focus away from Ragian and Devante using any means necessary. It strengthen what I think, that Ragian isn't a townie.

Devon has explained his role and I think Devon is townie. I will now have Ragian as No1 on my list given the arguments presented.

1. Ragian
2. Devante
3. Not sure yet.

Unvote Devon
Vote Ragian

[Loose Canon]

Devon re me theory spamming and not matching a stable town framework.

There's quite a bit that's unstable here and my feeling is the instinct to go for whatever explanations offer town the illusion of stability may be towns undoing.

There's a lot that's unusual in this game
Devante s unable to claim or name kicked that off big time.
That's not resolved.

The poisoning of strike was good news but unusual.

Charle s accusation of you and his claim D2 following his earlier you should be protected N1 was to me the instinct to go for whatever explanation offers town the illusion of stability.
Charles was from I think a town perspective.

Extremes claim was also offering town stability and strength.
He dodged the Devante thing though.

Sonic s mod style is unusual games.

Extreme really does bother me, and unusual and as not giving town the illusion of stability my suspicions of him are, I'm trying to piece things together to determine what is really going on.

You must admit that your claimed role itself says cop(s?) results may not be true.

I suspect Extreme is 3p warden, and as such is the best candidate for lynching. But I'm in a minority of 1 on that at present, and if I'm right I might not be around D3.

So ok it's theory spamming to you right now, I just remain in the minority of 1 I was in before and after your post.

[SoN!c]

Official vote count:


Devon: (2) Charle, Halrob
EW: (1) Loose Canon
Darin: (1) Devon
Hjelp: (1) Ragian
Ragian: (1) Hjelp




With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

[Ragian]

What a lovely piece of OMGUS to top it all.

[Loose Canon]

What do you call a wasp?

A wanna-bee

Still have one in my bonnet re Devante s role

[halrob64]

Loose Canon Lord of Chaos Rap

Step in the room, sparks fly, no warning, Loose Canon loaded, stormin’ by the morning.
Lord of Chaos, crown crooked on my brow, Breaking every system, can’t contain me now.
I flip scripts, twist fate, bend rules till they snap, Reality’s a beat, and I’m tearing up the track.

I used to be indecisive but I don't know now, Lost in the madness, still I take my vow.
Chaos is my kingdom, hear the crowd shout loud, I used to be indecisive but I don't know now.

Dice roll heavy, destiny’s a gamble, I light fires others scared to handle.
Anarchy’s anthem, rhythm in my veins, Order’s just a prison, I’m breaking out the chains.
Loose Canon, no leash, no master, no plan, I’m the glitch in the matrix, the shadow of man.

I used to be indecisive but I don't know now, Lost in the madness, still I take my vow.
Chaos is my kingdom, hear the crowd shout loud, I used to be indecisive but I don't know now.

Bridge Flip the coin, heads or tails, both sides mine, Every step unpredictable, design divine.
Lord of Chaos, architect of the unknown, I build empires from the seeds I’ve sown.

So when the world trembles, don’t ask me how, I used to be indecisive but I don’t know now.

[halrob64]

N2 will be chaos, 3P is laughing all the way to the slaughter house.

[Loose Canon]

Ok Halrob.

Devante can you answer these questions yes or no - unless you want to elaborate;

1. Are there any Sonic placed restrictions on who you can vote for?
2. Are there any Sonic placed restrictions on who you can say you suspect?

I'm wondering if Devante is a town player (interrogee) who town just has to ask the right questions of.(game theme name is about interrogation technique)

And I'll point out that Extreme started asking questions but then stopped and somehow became "kinda thinking" Devante to be town and said he had no idea what Devante's role as town might be.
Warden (Extreme would be wrong side of interrogee)

[halrob64]

A team of surgeons from China and Italy announced today the world’s first successful human head transplant, performed on a Conquer Club mafia player, The 18-hour procedure involved cooling the recipient’s head to -15°C while attaching it to a donated body using a revolutionary “spinal fusion” technique involving polyethylene glycol and electrical stimulation of nerve endings.

The patient, Darin Soprano, has reportedly regained consciousness and demonstrates cognitive function, though full motor control may take years of rehabilitation.
Sonic the game organiser and moderator has refused to name Strike Wolf as the donator of the head or Darin as the recipient.

Sonics cryptic comment at the end of the interview to this reporter leaves open the possibility of major crimes tonight if the creature is allowed out of its cage.
Thungwell Dipstead medical crime reporter for the Loose Straights Times

[SoN!c]

A team of surgeons from China and Italy announced today the world’s first successful human head transplant, performed on a Conquer Club mafia player, The 18-hour procedure involved cooling the recipient’s head to -15°C while attaching it to a donated body using a revolutionary “spinal fusion” technique involving polyethylene glycol and electrical stimulation of nerve endings.

The patient, Darin Soprano, has reportedly regained consciousness and demonstrates cognitive function, though full motor control may take years of rehabilitation.
Sonic the game organiser and moderator has refused to name Strike Wolf as the donator of the head or Darin as the recipient.

Sonics cryptic comment at the end of the interview to this reporter leaves open the possibility of major crimes tonight if the creature is allowed out of its cage.
Thungwell Dipstead medical crime reporter for the Loose Straights Times

**WORLD’S FIRST HUMAN HEAD TRANSPLANT PERFORMED ON CONQUER CLUB MAFIA PLAYER

Loose Straights Times – Medical Crime Desk
By Thungwell Dipstead**

In what scientists are calling “a bold leap for medicine” and what everyone else is calling “just a Monday deadline in the mafia game," an international team of surgeons from the Conquer Club Dead Chat Rooms and the Conquer Club Face Off-Topic Forum have announced the world’s first successful human head transplant on a mafia player mid-game.

The 18-hour operation involved cooling the recipient’s head to a frosty –15°C, a temperature previously used only for preserving fish sticks and the souls of veteran mafia players. Surgeons then applied a cutting-edge spinal-fusion technique that combined polyethylene glycol, electrical stimulation, and—according to one assistant—“a heroic amount of duct tape and optimistic swearing, with one surgeon holding wires together while repeatedly saying, “Is this supposed to spark like that?””

The patient who wishes to remain anonymous “Don’t cAll me the RecIpieNt” Soprano, has reportedly regained consciousness and is already asking for his flip. Doctors confirm he is demonstrating full cognitive function, including the ability to accuse three people, tunnel one of them, and misquote the rules. Motor control may take years to return—particularly the ability to type without auto-correct exposing him.

When pressed for details, Sonic the Game Organiser and Moderator refused to confirm or deny whether the donor body belonged to StrikeWolf, citing “ongoing investigations,” “HIPAA,” and “the fact that StrikeWolf might kill me.”

Sonic concluded the interview with a cryptic warning:

“If the creature is allowed out of its cage tonight, I cannot guarantee safety, sanity, or the usual cop investigation flips we have here.”

Experts interpret this as a 40% chance of multiple night-kills, a 30% chance of mod-confirmed chaos due to the chaos-agent at work, and a 100% chance that someone will accuse the head transplant of being scum purely on principle.

“**HE’S AWAKE—AND HE’S STUDYING THE STAFF,” SAYS LEAD SURGEON

Miraculously, the patinet regained consciousness within hours, immediately asked for a vote count, and declared two nurses “wolfy as hell.”

Doctors confirm his cognitive abilities remain sharp enough to:

-Make wild accusations

-Ignore obvious evidence

-Write 7-paragraph defenses no one asked for

-While maintaining his traditional 0% accuracy in night-action predictions

Medical authorities, moral philosophers, and several terrified townies have urged Sonic to reconsider letting the head transplant participate in night actions.


POSSIBLE SIDE EFFECTS INCLUDE:

Neck-based vote manipulation

Random spasms during LYLO

Increased likelihood of rage-quitting

A faint buzzing noise whenever someone lies

Stay tuned to the Loony Loose Straights Times, where we continue our award-losing coverage of medical crime, mafia meta, and unconfirmed reports about the creature that is only known under its codename LECTER for now.

[Devante]

Ok Halrob.

Devante can you answer these questions yes or no - unless you want to elaborate;

1. Are there any Sonic placed restrictions on who you can vote for?
2. Are there any Sonic placed restrictions on who you can say you suspect?

I'm wondering if Devante is a town player (interrogee) who town just has to ask the right questions of.(game theme name is about interrogation technique)

And I'll point out that Extreme started asking questions but then stopped and somehow became "kinda thinking" Devante to be town and said he had no idea what Devante's role as town might be.
Warden (Extreme would be wrong side of interrogee)

The answer is no to both questions and you’ll see in my posts I’ve done both

[SoN!c]

Devante has strict conditions but they do no apply A: when interrogated by town and B : if those answers are reserved to a strict minimum. In no circumstance can Devante elaborate any further about the info he might or might not hold about the set-up.
And no conclusion about faction alignment is to be made about these conditions.

[Extreme Ways]

Hm...

I hit a sore spot. Ragian continues to change focus away from Ragian and Devante using any means necessary. It strengthen what I think, that Ragian isn't a townie.

Devon has explained his role and I think Devon is townie. I will now have Ragian as No1 on my list given the arguments presented.

1. Ragian
2. Devante
3. Not sure yet.

Unvote Devon
Vote Ragian

Regardless of Ragian's alignment he is correct that coordinating night actions in thread is most often unwise.

Ragian also knows that I am both stubborn and strong enough of a player to do whatever I please, including coordinating night actions if I think it's beneficial. If I coordinate night actions, I may even not do the things I coordinated myself in order to lead scum astray if I think the upside is big enough.
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I also dont think you have actually answered Rag's question about what happens if we lynch Devante or Devon tbh. I dont think you hit a sore spot, I think Rag was just plainly unsatisfied with your answer.

[Extreme Ways]

Ok Halrob.

Devante can you answer these questions yes or no - unless you want to elaborate;

1. Are there any Sonic placed restrictions on who you can vote for?
2. Are there any Sonic placed restrictions on who you can say you suspect?

I'm wondering if Devante is a town player (interrogee) who town just has to ask the right questions of.(game theme name is about interrogation technique)

And I'll point out that Extreme started asking questions but then stopped and somehow became "kinda thinking" Devante to be town and said he had no idea what Devante's role as town might be.
Warden (Extreme would be wrong side of interrogee)

I'm extremely flipfloppy mostly due to the mod info on it. I'm also not an oracle and do not know every answer nor the setup, see also why I can't explain why Charle played D1 the way he did when he's cop.

[Extreme Ways]

Official vote count:


Devon: (2) Charle, Halrob
EW: (1) Loose Canon
Darin: (1) Devon
Hjelp: (1) Ragian
Ragian: (1) Hjelp




With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

Vote hjelp
I am in favour of Devante > hjelp > Devon > Darin I think.

Also just in favour of any lynch not in <Halrob, Charle, EW, Loose, Ragian>

And I just now noticed that is the entirely playerlist, but I will put my vote to any of the first four if push comes to shove.

Latest piece of mod posting ("when interrogated by town"), even when explicitly said that no faction alignment is to be made, sounds not very town.
Hjelp is mostly posting for sake of posting but doesnt really dive into anything. Surface-level commentary on the threadstate when answering Rag, without answering Rag.
Devon - call me stupid but the FBI Investigator backup role is sound, and it does fit with what Kingm said earlier. I also see Kingm as a smart enough player to soft his role like that. It's risky imo, between Dev and Devon I think Devon is most likely to flip town.
Darin - as mentioned by others just mostly absent and process of elimination.

[SoN!c]

Official vote count:


Devon: (2) Charle, Halrob
Hjelp: (2) Ragian, EW
EW: (1) Loose Canon
Darin: (1) Devon
Ragian: (1) Hjelp





With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

[halrob64]

I think I'm going to build myself a Favaday cage so I can survive the night. Its like a Faraday cage but it gives protection from roving Hannibal Lecters.

[hjelp]

Obviously there is a problem in reading an answer when the answer is followed by more text.
The answer is - it will depend on the outcome if a lynch or no lynch D2.

The rest of the post are what I elaborate regarding the situation D2.

@hjelp and whoever is voting: What's our play D3 if Devon flips scum or town respectively? If he flips 3rd party, then you don't have to bother. However, I want to know who he's aligned with or facing in both scenarios. Obviously, I'm not asking you to know-know, but I want your guesses. Let's play the long game here.

@ Ragian
Well then. Let's play the long game here.
it will depend on the outcome if a lynch or no lynch D2.

[Extreme Ways]

Obviously there is a problem in reading an answer when the answer is followed by more text.
The answer is - it will depend on the outcome if a lynch or no lynch D2.

The rest of the post are what I elaborate regarding the situation D2.

@hjelp and whoever is voting: What's our play D3 if Devon flips scum or town respectively? If he flips 3rd party, then you don't have to bother. However, I want to know who he's aligned with or facing in both scenarios. Obviously, I'm not asking you to know-know, but I want your guesses. Let's play the long game here.

@ Ragian
Well then. Let's play the long game here.
it will depend on the outcome if a lynch or no lynch D2.

Say it ends in a lynch, and it's a town lynch. What then?

Now do the same for a lynch, and it's a scum lynch. What then?

That's basically what Rag is asking

[SoN!c]

Foxtrot Romeo.. Shall we Dance?

[hjelp]

@EW
You mean that the word "flip" is related to the actual lynch? The role the lynched player is revealed by the Mod.
Got it, thanks

Then this make no sense
"- please tell me what's your (Mafia) play N2 if Devante flips scum?
- please tell me what's your (Mafia) play N2 if Ragian flips scum?"


Then I can say
if Devon were to be lynched flipping town -
Then I think Devon wasn't the Assassin as I have reason to believe.
Also, one less townie => more likely that Ragian is a scum.

[Darin44]

Official vote count:


Devon: (2) Charle, Halrob
EW: (1) Loose Canon
Darin: (1) Devon
Hjelp: (1) Ragian
Ragian: (1) Hjelp




With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

Vote hjelp
I am in favour of Devante > hjelp > Devon > Darin I think.

Also just in favour of any lynch not in <Halrob, Charle, EW, Loose, Ragian>

And I just now noticed that is the entirely playerlist, but I will put my vote to any of the first four if push comes to shove.

Latest piece of mod posting ("when interrogated by town"), even when explicitly said that no faction alignment is to be made, sounds not very town.
Hjelp is mostly posting for sake of posting but doesnt really dive into anything. Surface-level commentary on the threadstate when answering Rag, without answering Rag.
Devon - call me stupid but the FBI Investigator backup role is sound, and it does fit with what Kingm said earlier. I also see Kingm as a smart enough player to soft his role like that. It's risky imo, between Dev and Devon I think Devon is most likely to flip town.
Darin - as mentioned by others just mostly absent and process of elimination.

I will Vote hjelp even though I thank one of the 5 your not in favour in lynching is scum

[Ragian]

@EW
You mean that the word "flip" is related to the actual lynch? The role the lynched player is revealed by the Mod.
Got it, thanks

Then this make no sense
"- please tell me what's your (Mafia) play N2 if Devante flips scum?
- please tell me what's your (Mafia) play N2 if Ragian flips scum?"


Then I can say
if Devon were to be lynched flipping town -
Then I think Devon wasn't the Assassin as I have reason to believe.
Also, one less townie => more likely that Ragian is a scum.

If what I'm asking isn't clear to you for whatever reason, just ask. I still think you haven't answered my question in a satisfactory manner. Let's say we lynch Devon (I know you want to lynch me out of - I presume - butthurt, but perhaps clarifying the question will get us somewhere):
- If Devon when lynched turns out to be town (flips town), whom would you then suggest is scum?
- If Devon when lynched turns out to he scum (flips scum), whom would you then suggest is his scum buddies?

For instance, if we were to lynch you:
- If you flip town, I'd be looking at EW and Devon for starters. I'd be looking at who steered the lynch away from Devon. (I know I'm doing that myself, so I wouldn't blame anyone going for me - especially scum should be pushing for my lynch D3 if you were to flip town. Luckily, I know I'm town.)
- If you flip scum, I'd be looking at Loose, Devante, and halrob (if he wasn't cleared by Charle) because they've all seen my vote and stayed clear of it.

[hjelp]

Since I'm L-2,
I'm town and my role is Sleepwalker. Added to that is

"Town Surveillance Analyst"

At the end of the night when all other night actions are in You receive anonymous (but 100% accurate) reports when a town investigator has hit scum, even when the investigation returned a false result due to Godfather immunity or framing to the investigator or other conditions that tampered with the the investigator's result (i.e., the investigator himself did not actually detect scum) BUT only if the investigator survives the night. The investigator needs to be alive to file the report.

Once per game you can audit a killed investigators action to see what the result of the investigator was (works only on tracker and cop roles)..

Important:

The report is anonymous: it will not say which investigator performed the action that triggered the report.
The report does not reveal the identity of the scum-targeted player — only that a scum was succesfully targeted by investigator action(s) that night.
The Analyst's check uses true alignment, not investigation output. In other words, the Analyst triggers only when an investigator actually visited a Mafia member, regardless of what the investigator’s read looked like.
If an investigator was roleblocked before acting, or their visit was redirected so they did not actually target a scum, that does not count (no report).

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I didn't get any report N1.