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Re: D2 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby Extreme Ways on Thu Nov 13, 2025 7:01 pm

Ragian wrote:
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I have Rag as a strong candidate for third party if not Devante. Gut feeling, not much more. Rag's been effective at being not very involved.

Strong candidate vs. gut feeling :lol:

If involvement is your (only) parametre, you should probably just do a post count. I'm quite sure I'm in the top three after Loose and halrob.

Your second prod at voting Charle without any reason pinged me heavily :D . All I know (and poor me if I'm wrong) is that you dont seem like scum.

Care to explain how hjelp plays differently? I'm not too excited to town hjelp, but lack a good reason to scum them.
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Re: D2 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby Loose Canon on Thu Nov 13, 2025 9:55 pm

Extreme Ways wrote:
Loose Canon wrote:EW do you have any theories on what Devante could be if Town?

It seems to me we have evidence there are 3 pretty solid town players in Extreme, Charle and Halrob
Therefore it seems to me there are 3 options for D2 currently

1. Lynch Devante as most likely 3P for me anyway
2. Lynch Devon - for me I might not have favoured this D1 had Charle claimed cop then and I don't see more evidence now. The biggest argument for me as to what has changed is the % probabilities by process of elimination have grown on all players.
3. Actually allowing no lynch to happen might be a decent option.

Devon - silence whatever you are, will get you lynched sooner or later.

Devantes defence (counterattack) hasn't been doing it for me, EW has most number of games played experience - what do you think Devante could be if town?

I have no clue. He has just been... so honest, that I dont see resolving him as a priority. My money is on Devon but I'm not voting at the moment because some folk have been trigger happy.

I have Rag as a strong candidate for third party if not Devante. Gut feeling, not much more. Rag's been effective at being not very involved.


I'm not satisfied with "I have no clue".
Cannot believe you said it.

Are you actually the Warden AND 3P I wonder Extreme?

A mafia dies, & warden verifies 2 townies making it seem that 3 townies including himself are hermetically sealed clean.

Wardens wear white coats.

Is Devante actually a townie but in your straightjacket?
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Re: D1 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby Loose Canon on Thu Nov 13, 2025 9:59 pm

Extreme - are you the Warden, with the White Hand, wearing the White Coat?

SoN!c wrote:When night is whole and silver gleams,
Three fates entwine in mortal dreams.

When the White Hand touches the Seeker of Blue,
My Blood of Red shall gleam as true,
And hide with honeyed tongue,
My sins disguised, praises sung.

The White coat shall mend what time defiles,
Yet twist the world with tender wiles.
Beneath the moon, where mirrors lie,
Justice weeps, and truth runs dry.

But should the White Hand grace his side,
My guilt will pale, my stains will hide.

He twists what’s right beneath the night,
His touch makes day from darkest sight.
Yet lies are born where he have stayed.

My cloak is white, I come to heal,
But fate turns false beneath my seal.
I soothe the Seeker’s searching hue —
As Red’s dark deeds appear as new.

I blind the eyes that pierce deceit,
And let the guilty walk the street.
For mercy’s gift, though pure and kind,
Bends the truth and clouds the mind.

Thus spins this game, thus turns the night,
Where none see wrong, and few see right.
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Re: D2 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby Charle on Fri Nov 14, 2025 12:54 am

Extreme Ways wrote:
Loose Canon wrote:@Extreme - OK thanks re Warden - do you get to know if Charle's results are always accurate?

show

I only get to know that if I attempt to detain a cop, the results for that night only cannot be tampered with. The existence of that fact in my role indicates that false results were available, for example by a framer. Maybe there's a miller (==reads as scum to cop, but it actually town. Usually not aware of this himself) too in play.

FP'd by myself, I was meant to copy that previous post into this one.


If Doc saves me, then my result is the opposite. So for now I am certain that EW, Rob and I are town. That leaves us with 6 unconfirmed players of which 3 are probably scum/3p.
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Re: D2 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby Ragian on Fri Nov 14, 2025 1:41 am

Extreme Ways wrote:
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Extreme Ways wrote:
I have Rag as a strong candidate for third party if not Devante. Gut feeling, not much more. Rag's been effective at being not very involved.

Strong candidate vs. gut feeling :lol:

If involvement is your (only) parametre, you should probably just do a post count. I'm quite sure I'm in the top three after Loose and halrob.

Your second prod at voting Charle without any reason pinged me heavily :D . All I know (and poor me if I'm wrong) is that you dont seem like scum.

Care to explain how hjelp plays differently? I'm not too excited to town hjelp, but lack a good reason to scum them.

Why do you quote something completely different from what you're asking me?

First of all, he's Swedish. At some point, they turn on you. Nah, bantering aside, I feel he's been playing differently from last time. I think I wrote that, which I would be able to see if you'd quoted the proper post.
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Re: D2 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby Ragian on Fri Nov 14, 2025 1:47 am

Oh cock. I missed a line completely. Shouldn't read in the morning. Ignore me bitching about what you've quoted. The quote makes sense with the first bit you wrote, which I missed completely. I'll address that now.

D1, I randomly posted that Strike was scum in order to get things going. D2, I semi randomly picked Charle (could've been hjelp, could've been Darin, could've been Devon although the latter wasn't really present) because I felt they were the ones I had the hardest time reading. I wanted to achieve two things: Get some people off from Devante (I think he's town) and get people's reaction. It's interesting to see who follows blindly, who ignores it, and who takes a more critical approach.
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Re: D2 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby Loose Canon on Fri Nov 14, 2025 5:08 am

right I'm following my convictions.

As I think Devante s hereto most vocal accuser unvote devante
I at least have a theory how Devante could be town.

Extreme as warden is too powerful - it's an unprecedented supercop role.

Call this a Wild Loose Chase if you like.

vote Extreme Ways

I think he's 3rd party warden
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Re: D2 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby Ragian on Fri Nov 14, 2025 5:30 am

Why is random guesses at who's the 3rd party your main priority?
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Re: D2 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby Extreme Ways on Fri Nov 14, 2025 5:41 am

Ragian wrote:Why is random guesses at who's the 3rd party your main priority?

Loose being Loose.

@ Loose, nowhere in my role description does it describe what I am wearing. A warden can wear many things depending on country of job location and a myriad of other factors.

I guessed Dev's role was linked to mine because I had the 'if you target cop, X happens instead" thing. Felt like Dev could be someone linked with me, but it was also to see how people would react. At the end of the day it's all guesswork.

Why is my role too powerful? I am not a cop, let alone a supercop. I am a jailkeeper with extra effects, including being unable to jailkeep a cop. Call it stronger because the cop's result is accurate, call it weaker because I can't protect the cop. It's definitely not "supercop", if anything it's "superjailkeeper".
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Re: D2 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby halrob64 on Fri Nov 14, 2025 5:42 am

The Loose of Chaos strikes again :D :D :D
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Re: D2 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby halrob64 on Fri Nov 14, 2025 6:16 am

A doc wears a white coat, maybe the doc has a duel role, he/she certainly has access to poisons how does that fit your theories Loose?
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Re: D2 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby Loose Canon on Fri Nov 14, 2025 7:22 am

It would fit wouldn't it?
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Re: D2 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby halrob64 on Fri Nov 14, 2025 7:23 am

It is as plausible as anything in the game, that was my thoughts
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Re: D2 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby halrob64 on Fri Nov 14, 2025 7:25 am

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Re: D2 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby halrob64 on Fri Nov 14, 2025 7:27 am

I think its Darin, he has been lying very low and maybe waiting for night to fall to carry out more evil
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Re: D2 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby halrob64 on Fri Nov 14, 2025 7:43 am

you have to look to the quiet parties as suspect.
No 1 suspect is Devon, totally silent and why we are not lynching there I don't know but I think it has to happen, the smokescreen from Kingm I think was partially true in the the sense that whatever role, he has its on different nights. I think Kingm killed Kongming on N1 maybe Devon is not aware of what went on before coming in as sub but knows the role now. If correct he may have a protective role N2 I don't know,
If its 1 of 3 cop roles one at least I'm sure has to be corrupt.
No 2 suspect is Darin, very quiet, Reid technique says deny everything or say nothing.
If Darin is the doc with a duel role maybe he carried out the poisoning of Strike, maybe was able to make a visit and the news came back guilty so he was able to carry out the killing. Maybe he can only kill for good?
Jhelp I think is a very dark horse no idea there to be honest.
Loose town
me town
Charle honest cop
EW town warden seems very plausible
Ragian town, maybe vanilla maybe some sort of role
Devante confused.com
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Re: D2 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby halrob64 on Fri Nov 14, 2025 8:51 am

“With every day, and from both sides of my intelligence, the moral and the intellectual, I thus drew steadily nearer to the truth, by whose partial discovery I have been doomed to such a dreadful shipwreck: that man is not truly one, but truly two.”

“You must suffer me to go my own dark way.”

“If I am the chief of sinners, I am the chief of sufferers also.”
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Re: D2 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby halrob64 on Fri Nov 14, 2025 8:56 am

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Re: D2 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby Extreme Ways on Fri Nov 14, 2025 11:28 am

Mostly agree with Halrob's assessment.

Deadline D2 is set at November 17th 19:57:59 PM NEW YORK TIME ZONE.

Vote Devon

Devon has had enough time to do... anything, really. Just anything to show that he is town or that he continues with Kingm's line. Instead, it's as if Kingm's medical absence didnt cause him to be subbed out.
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Re: D2 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby halrob64 on Fri Nov 14, 2025 11:44 am

Vote Devon
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Re: D2 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby SoN!c on Fri Nov 14, 2025 12:29 pm

Official vote count:



Devon: (3) Charle, EW, Halrob
Devante: (1) Hjelp
Loose Canon: (1) Devante
EW: (1) Loose Canon




With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

“Listen carefully… the room’s already talking.

In this Reid-lit chamber, truth shakes like prey in a trap.
You don’t know it yet—but one of you is hunting,
and one of you is lying.
The trick is figuring out
which is which
before the lights flicker again.


And here’s the part you should remember:
when the pressure spikes,
when the room leans in,
when the question lands harder than the last breath—

the darker half is always the first one to talk.

I’ve seen Lecter-types—
smooth talkers, polished smile, mind like a scalpel.
They don’t sweat. They don’t crack.
They just… study you.”
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Re: D2 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby hjelp on Fri Nov 14, 2025 1:32 pm

Ok, The reason why I voted Devante is mainly because of Loose Canon claimed that 3P can interact with Mod and that Devante did. Later on Devante stated that the communication vs Mod was in the forum.
May so be it.
Devon on the other hand hasn't reveald anything regarding Kinm's claim.
Cop 50% Day-role odd or even ...
I don't think Devon is a townie. I think Devon is Mafia or 3p.
Unvote Devante
Vote Devon
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Re: D2 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby SoN!c on Fri Nov 14, 2025 1:50 pm

Official vote count:



Devon: (4) Charle, EW, Halrob, Hjelp
Loose Canon: (1) Devante
EW: (1) Loose Canon




With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch!


I will prod Devon if he has anything to say L-1
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Re: D2 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby Loose Canon on Fri Nov 14, 2025 2:08 pm

Ragian wrote:Why is random guesses at who's the 3rd party your main priority?


1.There's only really suspicions and feelings of innocence and guilt from other players who are engaging in this game.
Some are novices compared to me a relative novice myself.
2a.I remember Sonics last game as host where as town initially I correctly identified Charle as a werewolf only to be recruited by Charle with his dying breath and faced a then impossible task of trying to win as part of 1 of 2 rival werewolf factions with spidersense radio and all that jazz and I don't think town stood much of a chance in that. - very frustrating for me competitively but its a game.
2b. WTF regards to 1 - again frustrating for me - but its a game and I competitively hate to be beaten by a game.
3a. The only tangible really suspicious/unusual thing in this game was Devante - I've swung all over the place on Devante (lets call him X)
3b. Extreme has pulled strings and pushed buttons from D1 - lets put pressure on X, lets now put pressure on Y Devon, I suspect X, I don't suspect X any longer, I don't know what X could be but I believe him. I'm actually the only one who has put forward any hypothesis on why X Devante might be town given his highly unusual claim/can't claim
3c. Doesn't it strike you as perhaps a bit too lucky for town that firstly a Mafia is poisoned and secondly Charle, Halrob and Extreme are all seemingly hermetically sealed as town?

Somehow amongst all this in the course of questioning myself I thought hold on, a Town Warden who can verify a cop (Charle) , who can verify a cops results are good, who can therefore verify that another player (Halrob) is town can therefore seemingly verify themselves to a whole host of townies - (near) perfect 3P play IF Sonic has given him "Warden powers " and/or fake claim as 3P.
Looked back at Sonics posts (again!!!) to see if the "flavour" fitted this hypothesis - very first "flavour" poem post - yes it does!
It also fits how a Town Devante could be in the sway of a 3P.

A 3P Extreme will seemingly swing the game one way or the other but wins to the exclusion of either town or mafia.

There's 1 or 2 Mafia to find, there's 1 SOB 3P to find.
Ragian don't you think EW was starting down the line of making you look suspicious?
There's seeds of doubt sown or being allowed to germinate on Devon and Darin too as well as me.

Town should have an easy or at least much more straightforward task in winning if 3P is correctly eliminated.

And if you want to know what in my mentality made me go down this line of thought;
In real life I'm an accountant - and found that amongst other strings to my bow - I actually have niche skills of a forensic accounting nature.

It makes sense to get rid of EW. It fits on all known flavour and it fits on all known evidence.
Respect to EW.

Lynch me if you like - I know I'm laying myself open to being accused of being alternative 3P or Mafia and maybe I am?

My actual sin is being an accountant (putting his forensic hat on).

Fpd by hjelp - hey ho
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Re: D2 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby Ragian on Fri Nov 14, 2025 2:50 pm

Mate, all those things are important. That is why you voice them for future reference. I don't see why that makes you want to go for the 3rd party. And yes, I'm aware of the obvious things like EW leading (alongside Charle on this one), that he is starting to make you and me look suspicious by saying a) that you're tunnelling and b) that I might be 3rd party.

I have no participation related issues with hammering Devon (the artichoke formerly known as Kingm) because they should've participated by now, and the cop claim is weak due to Charle. However, that has - as mentioned - raised an eyebrow over here at Camp Ragian. I'll break it down:
- Charle's reaction to Kingm's claim D1 is weird if Charle is indeed the cop.
- Charle claimed quite quickly D2. He wasn't even at L-2. One could get the idea that it was preplanned in a scummy nightchat and Charle sort of jumped the gun.
- EW and Charle are now linked and semi-cleared, using halrob as their vehicle. The smart thing about that is that halrob being town can only corroborate what EW and Charle are saying becayse he knows that he is town. EW and Charle, however, if scum, also know who is town and can therefore easily use halrob, resulting in them being semi cleared (were it not for vigilante town eyes) and linked to halrob.

Is this the line of thinking you're doing, Loose?
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