Chris Benoit dead

[john1099]

You cant get bulging muscles like that just by pumping iron, he must have done roids.

Actually, yes you can.

Just shows how little you know of what you are arguing against.

Totally dependent on genetics... Which is my point. Athletes should not get paid like they do regarldess of how much they can benchpress...

What about the millions of people with dibilitating diseases that stop them from even being able to get up in the morning? They deserve the money more than some queer wrestlers.

Welcome to the world

Some things just don't make sense, and unless you run for president and change this, its not going to be changed, because we're all to blame, for buying that guys CD, or going and getting a ticket for the local sports team, you're just putting flame on the fire


What you are argueing is, that because they use their god given talent (whatever that may be), a man should not be paid for using it ? Does this also count for doctors, lawyers, mechanics, and musicians....or are you just down on Jocks ?

Everything else you named has to be learned... You are not BORN knowing anatomy, moron... Nor are you born knowing how to fix a car...

What I am saying is that these men should NOT be paid anymore than the mechanic for the job... Why the f*ck does a guy who can run 100 yards in 3 seconds deserve to be paid more than they guy who saves people from heart-attacks? What about paramedics that are lucky to make 40 to 50K a year who actually do a real SERVICE..?

What service is Bo Jackson or Michael Jordan providing??? Entertainment??? So fucking what... Read a book... The author spent just as much time on that one book and is lucky to get 1/100th the money...

I am saying athletes are overpaid for complete bullshit work.

[Huckleberryhound]

You cant get bulging muscles like that just by pumping iron, he must have done roids.

Actually, yes you can.

Just shows how little you know of what you are arguing against.

Totally dependent on genetics... Which is my point. Athletes should not get paid like they do regarldess of how much they can benchpress...

What about the millions of people with dibilitating diseases that stop them from even being able to get up in the morning? They deserve the money more than some queer wrestlers.

What you are argueing is, that because they use their god given talent (whatever that may be), a man should not be paid for using it ? Does this also count for doctors, lawyers, mechanics, and musicians....or are you just down on Jocks ?

Everything else you named has to be learned... You are not BORN knowing anatomy, moron... Nor are you born knowing how to fix a car...

What I am saying is that these men should NOT be paid anymore than the mechanic for the job... Why the f*ck does a guy who can run 100 yards in 3 seconds deserve to be paid more than they guy who saves people from heart-attacks? What about paramedics that are lucky to make 40 to 50K a year who actually do a real SERVICE..?

What service is Bo Jackson or Michael Jordan providing??? Entertainment??? So fucking what... Read a book... The author spent just as much time on that one book and is lucky to get 1/100th the money...

I am saying athletes are overpaid for complete bullshit work.

Shows just how stupid you are.

It takes years of training to be good at a sport, and considering they are basically paid acrobats/stuntmen, they also need to train to do these things properly. Some people are born with a natural talent , be that academic, physical, or artistic.....Taking it that you are singling out one of these, i can only assume you are both athletic inept, and bitter towards those who posess an athletics based skill.


Bah

[Anarkistsdream]

You wanna-be...

What I said is they don't deserve to be paid so much!!!

Are you all fucking stupid? I never said we should not have athletes... I said they should not be paid the way they are.

Don't misquote me.

[Stopper]

One thing's bothering me about this thread.



How was his name pronounced? Was it Ben-WAH, or Ben-OYT? Or even Ben-OH-IT? Or some other way?

[Huckleberryhound]

One thing's bothering me about this thread.



How was his name pronounced? Was it Ben-WAH, or Ben-OYT? Or even Ben-OH-IT? Or some other way?

ben-wah, it's french canadian

[cena-rules]

You cant get bulging muscles like that just by pumping iron, he must have done roids.

Actually, yes you can.

Just shows how little you know of what you are arguing against.

Totally dependent on genetics... Which is my point. Athletes should not get paid like they do regarldess of how much they can benchpress...

What about the millions of people with dibilitating diseases that stop them from even being able to get up in the morning? They deserve the money more than some queer wrestlers.

What you are argueing is, that because they use their god given talent (whatever that may be), a man should not be paid for using it ? Does this also count for doctors, lawyers, mechanics, and musicians....or are you just down on Jocks ?

Everything else you named has to be learned... You are not BORN knowing anatomy, moron... Nor are you born knowing how to fix a car...

What I am saying is that these men should NOT be paid anymore than the mechanic for the job... Why the f*ck does a guy who can run 100 yards in 3 seconds deserve to be paid more than they guy who saves people from heart-attacks? What about paramedics that are lucky to make 40 to 50K a year who actually do a real SERVICE..?

What service is Bo Jackson or Michael Jordan providing??? Entertainment??? So fucking what... Read a book... The author spent just as much time on that one book and is lucky to get 1/100th the money...

I am saying athletes are overpaid for complete bullshit work.

so lets say though if there were no athletes and no entertainers would you be happy to live in a world like that

without entertainers there would be no cinema
no tv
etc

you should have shut your mouth and we may just think of you as a fool but you opened it and removed all doubt

oh and also the army are getting paid to kill people
yes because that is a brilliant use of money and time

thought id put it in again

[Anarkistsdream]

Shows just how stupid you are.

It takes years of training to be good at a sport, and considering they are basically paid acrobats/stuntmen, they also need to train to do these things properly. Some people are born with a natural talent , be that academic, physical, or artistic.....Taking it that you are singling out one of these, i can only assume you are both athletic inept, and bitter towards those who posess an athletics based skill.


Bah

And that is what you get for assuming... It just makes you a dipshit...

Again, I say AGAIN... So READ THIS PEOPLE...

I appreciate what they do, but they do not deserve to make what they do! I can't believe you all think that athletes deserve to be paid more than doctors, policemen, or soldiers... But that is what you are ALL arguing.

[Anarkistsdream]

You are all just ignorant trolls that choose to misread me so that you can have your little "Benoit Going Away Party..."

He was obviously a psychotic asshole, just like all of you who are arguing against me... He died because he was an idiot and offed himself... Maybe you all could learn from that and try it.

[Huckleberryhound]

You wanna-be...

What I said is they don't deserve to be paid so much!!!

Are you all fucking stupid? I never said we should not have athletes... I said they should not be paid the way they are.

Don't misquote me.

If someone makes $50,000,000 off of someones abilities, you are saying they don't deserve a decent cut of that money ?


You're not making much sense mate.

[Huckleberryhound]

You are all just ignorant trolls that choose to misread me so that you can have your little "Benoit Going Away Party..."

He was obviously a psychotic asshole, just like all of you who are arguing against me... He died because he was an idiot and offed himself... Maybe you all could learn from that and try it.

puts rattle back in anarchistbaby's pram

Go f*ck yourself ya knob.

[Anarkistsdream]

You wanna-be...

What I said is they don't deserve to be paid so much!!!

Are you all fucking stupid? I never said we should not have athletes... I said they should not be paid the way they are.

Don't misquote me.

If someone makes 50,000,000 off of someones abilities, you are saying they don't deserve a decent cut of that money ?


You're not making much sense mate.

Of course it is great for them... But what I am saying is that NO, it isn't fair... It isn't fair to social workers, public school teachers, etc...

Hell, if I hadn't broke my knee and was still playing soccer, I would have my scholarship... But that didn't happen. But I never intended on making a career out of it... I did it because I loved it. Still do.

So, Huckleberry, I actually AGREE with you... But I do not think that it is fair or just.

[Anarkistsdream]

You are all just ignorant trolls that choose to misread me so that you can have your little "Benoit Going Away Party..."

He was obviously a psychotic asshole, just like all of you who are arguing against me... He died because he was an idiot and offed himself... Maybe you all could learn from that and try it.

puts rattle back in anarchistbaby's pram

Go f*ck yourself ya knob.

Oh no... Not an internet fag telling me to go f*ck myself...!!!

[cena-rules]

And that is what you get for assuming... It just makes you a dipshit...

Again, I say AGAIN... So READ THIS PEOPLE...

I appreciate what they do, but they do not deserve to make what they do! I can't believe you all think that athletes deserve to be paid more than doctors, policemen, or soldiers... But that is what you are ALL arguing.

well if they are good at something they deserved to be payed for it

soliders just kill people
well yes lets pay them millions for killing people
hell lets find bin landen and give him 7,000,000

[Anarkistsdream]

And that is what you get for assuming... It just makes you a dipshit...

Again, I say AGAIN... So READ THIS PEOPLE...

I appreciate what they do, but they do not deserve to make what they do! I can't believe you all think that athletes deserve to be paid more than doctors, policemen, or soldiers... But that is what you are ALL arguing.

well if they are good at something they deserved to be payed for it

soliders just kill people
well yes lets pay them millions for killing people
hell lets find bin landen and give him 7,000,000

You again take ONE thing I said and run with it... It was an EXAMPLE... Can you wrap your head around that..?

If you don't like the soldier example, try social workers, teachers, bus drivers, nurses at free clinics, anyone who works on a reservation, police officers, etc.

[Huckleberryhound]

You wanna-be...

What I said is they don't deserve to be paid so much!!!

Are you all fucking stupid? I never said we should not have athletes... I said they should not be paid the way they are.

Don't misquote me.

If someone makes 50,000,000 off of someones abilities, you are saying they don't deserve a decent cut of that money ?


You're not making much sense mate.

Of course it is great for them... But what I am saying is that NO, it isn't fair... It isn't fair to social workers, public school teachers, etc...

Hell, if I hadn't broke my knee and was still playing soccer, I would have my scholarship... But that didn't happen. But I never intended on making a career out of it... I did it because I loved it. Still do.

So, Huckleberry, I actually AGREE with you... But I do not think that it is fair or just.

The payment of public service workers is the fault of your government, and for the record, i think ambulance men should be paid more than soccer players, but the value the world puts on certain skills has been set in stone for many hundreds of years......cest la vei.

[salr15]

Shows just how stupid you are.

It takes years of training to be good at a sport, and considering they are basically paid acrobats/stuntmen, they also need to train to do these things properly. Some people are born with a natural talent , be that academic, physical, or artistic.....Taking it that you are singling out one of these, i can only assume you are both athletic inept, and bitter towards those who posess an athletics based skill.


Bah

And that is what you get for assuming... It just makes you a dipshit...

Again, I say AGAIN... So READ THIS PEOPLE...

I appreciate what they do, but they do not deserve to make what they do! I can't believe you all think that athletes deserve to be paid more than doctors, policemen, or soldiers... But that is what you are ALL arguing.

It's all a numbers game. There are way more people that have the ability to become doctor's, policeman, fireman than there are to become professional basketball, football, baseball players. Is it far, no, but that's the way it works. Just like cardiologist make more money than general doctor or a professor at Harvard makes more money than a teacher in high school. More specialized the job, the more $$.

[Anarkistsdream]

You wanna-be...

What I said is they don't deserve to be paid so much!!!

Are you all fucking stupid? I never said we should not have athletes... I said they should not be paid the way they are.

Don't misquote me.

If someone makes 50,000,000 off of someones abilities, you are saying they don't deserve a decent cut of that money ?


You're not making much sense mate.

Of course it is great for them... But what I am saying is that NO, it isn't fair... It isn't fair to social workers, public school teachers, etc...

Hell, if I hadn't broke my knee and was still playing soccer, I would have my scholarship... But that didn't happen. But I never intended on making a career out of it... I did it because I loved it. Still do.

So, Huckleberry, I actually AGREE with you... But I do not think that it is fair or just.

The payment of public service workers is the fault of your government, and for the record, i think ambulance men should be paid more than soccer players, but the value the world puts on certain skills has been set in stone for many hundreds of years......cest la vei.

See, you are arguing the same thing as me now, brother... That is what I am saying...

You thought I was arguing something that I was not...

And I agree with the fault lying with our government... But it's that same government that allows sports stars to be [aid more than some small third-world countries make per year.

[cena-rules]

And that is what you get for assuming... It just makes you a dipshit...

Again, I say AGAIN... So READ THIS PEOPLE...

I appreciate what they do, but they do not deserve to make what they do! I can't believe you all think that athletes deserve to be paid more than doctors, policemen, or soldiers... But that is what you are ALL arguing.

well if they are good at something they deserved to be payed for it

soliders just kill people
well yes lets pay them millions for killing people
hell lets find bin landen and give him 7,000,000

You again take ONE thing I said and run with it... It was an EXAMPLE... Can you wrap your head around that..?

If you don't like the soldier example, try social workers, teachers, bus drivers, nurses at free clinics, anyone who works on a reservation, police officers, etc.

bus drivers: pollution
nurses: i agree
police:i agree
teachers: meh
social workers:meh

[jnd94]

all AD is saying is that pro-athletes don't deseve as much credit as they do. There are other jobs which actually benefit society that go unnotice, but, god forbid, a drug-using f*ck face should murder his family then take his own life, he gets start treatment and everyone is saying "oh, he entertained millions so it obviously was all framed". Firfighters, policemen, they die in noble causes, saving lives, protecting families and preventing crime. All they get is a little square of the newspaper and a 5-second thing in the local news if they are lucky.

[Anarkistsdream]

Shows just how stupid you are.

It takes years of training to be good at a sport, and considering they are basically paid acrobats/stuntmen, they also need to train to do these things properly. Some people are born with a natural talent , be that academic, physical, or artistic.....Taking it that you are singling out one of these, i can only assume you are both athletic inept, and bitter towards those who posess an athletics based skill.


Bah

And that is what you get for assuming... It just makes you a dipshit...

Again, I say AGAIN... So READ THIS PEOPLE...

I appreciate what they do, but they do not deserve to make what they do! I can't believe you all think that athletes deserve to be paid more than doctors, policemen, or soldiers... But that is what you are ALL arguing.

It's all a numbers game. There are way more people that have the ability to become doctor's, policeman, fireman than there are to become professional basketball, football, baseball players. Is it far, no, but that's the way it works. Just like cardiologist make more money than general doctor or a professor at Harvard makes more money than a teacher in high school. More specialized the job, the more $$.

The problem is that the Porfessor from Harvard, who spent 30 years of his life studying his field, STILL gets paid less than a guy who can throw a ball through a hoop... If we wanna talk about specicialization, there is specializing... You can't beat that professor at Harvard who teaches Cultural Anthropology or something for longer than the fucking athlete has even been alive!

[jnd94]

all AD is saying is that pro-athletes don't deseve as much credit as they do. There are other jobs which actually benefit society that go unnotice, but, god forbid, a drug-using f*ck face should murder his family then take his own life, he gets start treatment and everyone is saying "oh, he entertained millions so it obviously was all framed". Firfighters, policemen, they die in noble causes, saving lives, protecting families and preventing crime. All they get is a little square of the newspaper and a 5-second thing in the local news if they are lucky.

If a firefighter works his whole life, he probably wont even get a quarter of how much a sports start gets in a year! you realize that? Dumbshits like this benoit are making more money beating each other up, than a firefighter gets saving lives his whole life? Is that fair?

[Huckleberryhound]

You wanna-be...

What I said is they don't deserve to be paid so much!!!

Are you all fucking stupid? I never said we should not have athletes... I said they should not be paid the way they are.

Don't misquote me.

If someone makes 50,000,000 off of someones abilities, you are saying they don't deserve a decent cut of that money ?


You're not making much sense mate.

Of course it is great for them... But what I am saying is that NO, it isn't fair... It isn't fair to social workers, public school teachers, etc...

Hell, if I hadn't broke my knee and was still playing soccer, I would have my scholarship... But that didn't happen. But I never intended on making a career out of it... I did it because I loved it. Still do.

So, Huckleberry, I actually AGREE with you... But I do not think that it is fair or just.

The payment of public service workers is the fault of your government, and for the record, i think ambulance men should be paid more than soccer players, but the value the world puts on certain skills has been set in stone for many hundreds of years......cest la vei.

See, you are arguing the same thing as me now, brother... That is what I am saying...

You thought I was arguing something that I was not...

And I agree with the fault lying with our government... But it's that same government that allows sports stars to be [aid more than some small third-world countries make per year.

I take you back to my original point, but rephrase it.

Would 200,000,000 people watch a halftime show that consisted of doctors treating athletes foot ?

No, but they would pay for the right to watch two groups of grown men punt a pig skin around a grassy field...heck, grass optional. They deserve to be paid that much, because the revenue they produce warrants that. Until all entertainment is government controlled so the government can re-distrabute it, it is as it is....and i think it is probably better this way .

[salr15]

I don't even know how people watch that WWE crap, it's so fake. Specially now with UFC where you can watch the real thing...

[Huckleberryhound]

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worth every penny

[jnd94]

You wanna-be...

What I said is they don't deserve to be paid so much!!!

Are you all fucking stupid? I never said we should not have athletes... I said they should not be paid the way they are.

Don't misquote me.

If someone makes 50,000,000 off of someones abilities, you are saying they don't deserve a decent cut of that money ?


You're not making much sense mate.

Of course it is great for them... But what I am saying is that NO, it isn't fair... It isn't fair to social workers, public school teachers, etc...

Hell, if I hadn't broke my knee and was still playing soccer, I would have my scholarship... But that didn't happen. But I never intended on making a career out of it... I did it because I loved it. Still do.

So, Huckleberry, I actually AGREE with you... But I do not think that it is fair or just.

The payment of public service workers is the fault of your government, and for the record, i think ambulance men should be paid more than soccer players, but the value the world puts on certain skills has been set in stone for many hundreds of years......cest la vei.

See, you are arguing the same thing as me now, brother... That is what I am saying...

You thought I was arguing something that I was not...

And I agree with the fault lying with our government... But it's that same government that allows sports stars to be [aid more than some small third-world countries make per year.

I take you back to my original point, but rephrase it.

Would 200,000,000 people watch a halftime show that consisted of doctors treating athletes foot ?

No, but they would pay for the right to watch two groups of grown men punt a pig skin around a grassy field...heck, grass optional. They deserve to be paid that much, because the revenue they produce warrants that. Until all entertainment is government controlled so the government can re-distrabute it, it is as it is....and i think it is probably better this way .

No, it absolutely shouldnt be that way. Your right, I'd rather watch football than doctors treating athlete's foot, but just because it is more interesting doesnt mean it is morally right. Doctors spend their whole lives researching, helping people, and they dont get as much credit as a dumbass 7'5 f*ck hitting another dumbass 7'5 f*ck. It just isnt right....