EW's Semi-Open Matrix Madness

[SoN!c]

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To recap:
1) Went hard after Loose only to abandon that thought for a no lynch, but still wanting a lynch.
2) Tried helping the vote on DDS (even if it didn't count) only to come back D2 to throw shade upon everyone else voting for DDS.
3) Has been MIA since early D2. My read of that is that Devante now feels it's less damaging if he just says nothing or tries to coast and appease.

I can see all that, but at the same time it is also a big nono Dev being Scum (to me).

Yes, Im afraid of the silent (MIA) scum Dev and yes, random voting on all remaining suspects is as good as any strategy now (with our remaining PR close to being dead fish in the water), and yes Dev made some posts that can be read as a bit scummy (then again most players did), so why not voting Dev?.., yes i can see all that, but honestly; is this how a scum Dev would have played D1?

D1 Dev seems genuinly a vanilla townie trying to do his best but got lost somewhere on the matrixroad and made some judgement errors due to the fact we have 3 strong scummies that know how to play scum and can pm each other at each and every moment. And yes your read is most likely correct but that read is also valid for a town Dev.

Anyways with 11 alive meaning we need 6 votes (with only 8 town) and deadline is coming in fast. And if we lynch a townie then scum is getting real close to victory.

Vot and King have to make their choice

FP by King

[Charle]

I must say, I really like fusi's post, I agree with him and it makes sense, except the fact Kong is way too quiet at the moment and not contributing at all, keep him on my scum list as well. I think the posts of Devante that fusi referred to was this:

I will also say, as I'm not a town PR, hypothetically, I would also not go for this nonsense. Let's make a road map for the scum guys, genius. I have never seen someone try to get themselves killed day 1 as much as you LC. I am doubling down on my vote

pmc immediately told him not to claim for nothing on D1(obviously making it easier for scum to get the town pr's), and then this post:

Also i could have just slipped, but maybe I do have a power role and simply don't want scums attention. Or maybe, I simply want to attract scums attention to me for it. Hmm scum what you think, which could it be...

I have to admit, the above sound townish to me as well (even if it was a mistake in disguise) and for that reason I will keep my vote with Max at the moment.

[SoN!c]

Vote Devante

If the choice has to be between the MIA townies Max or Dev then im more afraid of a scum Dev playing MiA. 99% sure both Dev and Max will flip town however.. but that 1% is only confirmed when confirmed by EW.


Also This game feels lost for town but i tried to swing it around. Bad play joining it? Who knows
.. it aint over till its over

We need all town eyes on the price !

[pmchugh]

I don't think it's dev and neither does sonic FOS on sonic and Rag.

[Devante]

At this point getting voted to be lynched I don't hold against anyone since the fact is I haven't been able to contribute much to this game. But I am town so it will just be another loss for us at this point. I can't quite zero in on anyone being overly scummy at this point so will go back to voting for one of the two players not being active, being Max and Kong. Not sure when the deadline is but at least I'll put in a vote in time. Since our town PR has gone to Max I'll follow suit.

Vote MAX

[strike wolf]

Yea. Real Life has been a pain lately. Short sum: I think Dev is a bad case. It feels like pinning everything on a random inactive on a day when (as Son!c correctly alluded to) is very pivotal and we need to lynch scum today or this game will be very tough for us to dig back out of and steal the win from Scum. Kong has been just as inactive as Dev but imo scummier. Take this post for example:

Well to be clear, I stated explicitly earlier that I was and have indeed been "bandwagoning" on votes because I believe it makes the most sense for town to get a lynch off, and so that has been my modus operandi thus far as well as why I've been the first on different motions like the lynch pack one or most recently with swang to make a move and stick my neck out so we get information in the absence of useful power roles (for instance once I was the first to publicly support PMC's lynch gang we had a motley crew soon to follow in quick succession, some of whom I imagine are scum).

Regarding you specifically good sir, I don't actually have any particularly grand suspicions beyond that other people have noted you to be playing strangely (which I took their word for and you haven't refuted to my knowledge) and the minor gaff Charles pointed out earlier. I could definitely believe you are town and its unclear to me who is being lynced, but I wanted to ensure we'd have a lynch at the end of the day on one of the more suspicious seeming townsfolk.

The wording at the end looks more than a little like a Freudian slip. Inadvertantly acknowledging that he has not been looking for actual potential scum but the "more suspicious seeming townsfolk." Which is where any smart scum would be trying to direct the lynch.

Vote Kong

[Ragian]

I don't think it's dev and neither does sonic FOS on sonic and Rag.

Finally, we disagree on something. But hey, at least mine isn't just a vote but an honest attempt at looking at gameplay.

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Yea. Real Life has been a pain lately. Short sum: I think Dev is a bad case. It feels like pinning everything on a random inactive on a day when (as Son!c correctly alluded to) is very pivotal and we need to lynch scum today or this game will be very tough for us to dig back out of and steal the win from Scum. Kong has been just as inactive as Dev but imo scummier. Take this post for example:

Well to be clear, I stated explicitly earlier that I was and have indeed been "bandwagoning" on votes because I believe it makes the most sense for town to get a lynch off, and so that has been my modus operandi thus far as well as why I've been the first on different motions like the lynch pack one or most recently with swang to make a move and stick my neck out so we get information in the absence of useful power roles (for instance once I was the first to publicly support PMC's lynch gang we had a motley crew soon to follow in quick succession, some of whom I imagine are scum).

Regarding you specifically good sir, I don't actually have any particularly grand suspicions beyond that other people have noted you to be playing strangely (which I took their word for and you haven't refuted to my knowledge) and the minor gaff Charles pointed out earlier. I could definitely believe you are town and its unclear to me who is being lynced, but I wanted to ensure we'd have a lynch at the end of the day on one of the more suspicious seeming townsfolk.

The wording at the end looks more than a little like a Freudian slip. Inadvertantly acknowledging that he has not been looking for actual potential scum but the "more suspicious seeming townsfolk." Which is where any smart scum would be trying to direct the lynch.

Vote Kong

Rich coming from you. Where's your post in which you Freudian slipped writing scum instead of town or vice versa?

[SoN!c]

I don't think it's dev and neither does sonic FOS on sonic and Rag.

I agree, but who do you think it is then? Rag? Let's hear your toughts PMC

[Charle]

This is my summary for what it is worth:

Votanic - Town
King - Town
pmc - Town (his contributions so far is as good as we can get for town)
fusi - Town (not very active, but very good constructive posts when needed)
Sonic - Town (I don't think pixar would have changed his role if he was scum - I have a feeling at the moment scum have some fun)
Strike - Town (same as fusi, not very active but when he post it just townish in my opinion)
Devante - Town (at the start I also thought he was scum, but as per my previous post I think he is more town now)
Me - Town

This leaves us with 3 left:
Kong - was active at the start but now it seems he just post because he have to not saying really much
Ragian - I had my doubts about Ragian from the start for some reason
Max - Don't know about him, very quiet and I am happy to lynch him, even if my sixth sense is completely out and he turns town, he does not contribute.

[SoN!c]

This is my summary for what it is worth:

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This leaves us with 3 left:
Kong - was active at the start but now it seems he just post because he have to not saying really much
Ragian - I had my doubts about Ragian from the start for some reason
Max - Don't know about him, very quiet and I am happy to lynch him, even if my sixth sense is completely out and he turns town, he does not contribute.

Yes Ragian.

His "hold your horses Charle" post is legendary stuff by now.

In each and every mafia game Rag always applied Occam's razor like set in stone but here he came up with this:

"Unless scum visited scum in order to throw town off course by tow-confirming fellow scum. Hold your horses there, Charle..."

The idea that scum 1 visited scum 2 (on N2) just to hope scum 1 got tracked by a town tracker (with scum knowing the matrix and thus knowing the limited track options), just to make another scum (scum 2) looking town while self exposing them (scum 1) as scum is so way-off the Occam's razor chart that pigs can fly in space while Nuking the Moon.

[Extreme Ways]

Deadline as per usual
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/g ... nt=cursive

I would appreciate a hammer before then, though.
I'm pretty sure it takes 6 to lynch, youre getting there!

Votecount:
Max: 3 - Charle, Votanic, Dev,
Dev: 3 - Ragian, King, Sonic
Sonic: 1 - Max
Kong: 1 - PMC, Strike
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[Charle]

This is my summary for what it is worth:

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This leaves us with 3 left:
Kong - was active at the start but now it seems he just post because he have to not saying really much
Ragian - I had my doubts about Ragian from the start for some reason
Max - Don't know about him, very quiet and I am happy to lynch him, even if my sixth sense is completely out and he turns town, he does not contribute.

Yes Ragian.

His "hold your horses Charle" post is legendary stuff by now.

In each and every mafia game Rag always applied Occam's razor like set in stone but here he came up with this:

"Unless scum visited scum in order to throw town off course by tow-confirming fellow scum. Hold your horses there, Charle..."

The idea that scum 1 visited scum 2 (on N2) just to hope scum 1 got tracked by a town tracker (with scum knowing the matrix and thus knowing the limited track options), just to make another scum (scum 2) looking town while self exposing them (scum 1) as scum is so way-off the Occam's razor chart that pigs can fly in space while Nuking the Moon.

Oh yes, and I forgot about this as well, it even more confirms my dirty three.

I am happy to change my vote to anybody if Votanic, King and Sonic go for Kong as well, or even Ragian.

[pmchugh]

This is my summary for what it is worth:

Votanic - Town
King - Town
pmc - Town (his contributions so far is as good as we can get for town)
fusi - Town (not very active, but very good constructive posts when needed)
Sonic - Town (I don't think pixar would have changed his role if he was scum - I have a feeling at the moment scum have some fun)
Strike - Town (same as fusi, not very active but when he post it just townish in my opinion)
Devante - Town (at the start I also thought he was scum, but as per my previous post I think he is more town now)
Me - Town

This leaves us with 3 left:
Kong - was active at the start but now it seems he just post because he have to not saying really much
Ragian - I had my doubts about Ragian from the start for some reason
Max - Don't know about him, very quiet and I am happy to lynch him, even if my sixth sense is completely out and he turns town, he does not contribute.

I like most of this, but there is probably at least one wrong in here. I prefer kong vote but will switch to Max if he isn't getting the votes.

[SoN!c]

I am happy to change my vote to anybody if Votanic, King and Sonic go for Kong as well, or even Ragian.

On standby to flip vote at any time. I think Vot and King have to decide between Ragian, Kong, Max and Dev (in that order). Its too close to deadline to get 6 votes on anybody else.

But we need to hit scum guys - better go out in flames - it is better to burn out then to fade away. High risk - high reward, stop playing safe there must be 1 scum between the four of those

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdvyBtZ ... rt_radio=1

[SoN!c]

I don't know how you guys feel but this last week feels more EW's Semi-Open Matrix "Madness" to me. Not quite the "EW Matrix Madness" yet but at least i got the "anything can happen madness' feeling back". Happy i joined! Let's vote Ragian or Kong but whatever you do let's hit scum

[SoN!c]

Unvote

Untill a few days ago the town choice seemed between MIA's Max and Devante. Both choices were not made by our 2 "confirmed" townies Vot and King but by Charle and Ragian.

Charle initiated the vote on Max (because his name sounded scummy but ok that sounded more a MIA vote to me) while Ragian slided Devante's name up forward in a rather sophisticated way..

I have a feeling both Dev and Max are town.. looks like Max has just lost interest due to his known Drunkness And Relative Dimensions In Sleep state of mind, while Dev just wants out due to the totalf*ckm*ss he made on D1 combined with RL farmseason work that needs to get done.. Do get back on that horse Dev - we know you are town! and stay in the game ffs if you are. Pick up where you left off and keep going. Canadians are tough stuff, at 0°C American water freezes while Canadian water just gets thicker

Back to Ragian, he even "probed out" a lynch on Fusi. Now i wonder, if you really are town, why would you wanna see Fusi lynched?

Vote Ragian

hashtag"pigs can't fly in space while Nuking the Moon"

[Devante]

Vot/King, you guys are the town currently everyone has as confirmed so what's your take on the last few posts? We voting for either of those?

[SoN!c]

Vot/King, you guys are the town currently everyone has as confirmed so what's your take on the last few posts? We voting for either of those?

YES! this means Dev will change his vote if needed!. Charle will too. King and Vot got the keys in their hands.

#Pigs can't fly in space while nuking the Moon

[SoN!c]

Since last week this thread is full of energy - goddamnit we are John F*ckn* Tr*v*ltA¨* high Energy! singing "pigs can't fly in space while Nuking the Moon" oooh yeah, Yay Yay, yay, yay, Ooh, ooh, ooh, pigs can't fly in space while Nuking the Moon, Nukin' the Moon!!! (Your Love Keeps Lifting Me) High Energy!! pigs can't fly in space while Nuking the Moon!! 'Nuking the Mooon...!!

[pmchugh]

The game is feeling more alive. Kinda disheartening about the MIAs not even responding to a pm prod. They need modkilled or lynched. Let rag live a day, fusis post was so bad.

[pmchugh]

Also ngl, kinda feels like sonic is protecting some people by accusing others.

[Ragian]

This is my summary for what it is worth:

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This leaves us with 3 left:
Kong - was active at the start but now it seems he just post because he have to not saying really much
Ragian - I had my doubts about Ragian from the start for some reason
Max - Don't know about him, very quiet and I am happy to lynch him, even if my sixth sense is completely out and he turns town, he does not contribute.

Yes Ragian.

His "hold your horses Charle" post is legendary stuff by now.

In each and every mafia game Rag always applied Occam's razor like set in stone but here he came up with this:

"Unless scum visited scum in order to throw town off course by tow-confirming fellow scum. Hold your horses there, Charle..."

The idea that scum 1 visited scum 2 (on N2) just to hope scum 1 got tracked by a town tracker (with scum knowing the matrix and thus knowing the limited track options), just to make another scum (scum 2) looking town while self exposing them (scum 1) as scum is so way-off the Occam's razor chart that pigs can fly in space while Nuking the Moon.

Yes. It is legendary stuff. It is from experience, not grapped out of my arse like you're trying to make it seems

For someone who wants others to decide (please look who's siding with me vote-wise, mate), you're awfully trigger-happy, Sonic

[Ragian]

Lord...

"make it seem", it's supposed to say.

[Ragian]

Short festival now. Will be back Saturday at the latest.

[Charle]

Hey Votanic, and King, where are you guys? Let's make this happen please?

Would love to hear your sides.