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More eyes or legs in the world?

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"More of" game/argument

Postby *Pixar* on Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:32 pm

More eyes or legs in the world?

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Re: "More of" game/argument

Postby mookiemcgee on Fri Aug 26, 2022 2:30 pm

Eyes

Thesis: fish have eyes
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Re: "More of" game/argument

Postby jimboston on Fri Aug 26, 2022 4:35 pm

Legs

Thesis: Bugs have legs…. they have lots of legs… and their are way more bugs than eyes.
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Re: "More of" game/argument

Postby mookiemcgee on Fri Aug 26, 2022 5:33 pm

jimboston wrote:Legs

Thesis: Bugs have legs…. they have lots of legs… and their are way more bugs than eyes.


Counter thesis: Bugs have eyes, some bugs have lots of eyes. virtually no fish have feet legs *edited*
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Re: "More of" game/argument

Postby jimboston on Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:39 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:
jimboston wrote:Legs

Thesis: Bugs have legs…. they have lots of legs… and their are way more bugs than eyes.


Counter thesis: Bugs have eyes, some bugs have lots of eyes. virtually no fish have feet


You’ll have to define what “lots of eyes” means.
You can’t claim a fly with two eyes has “lots of eyes” because they can see better.

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Re: "More of" game/argument

Postby jonesthecurl on Fri Aug 26, 2022 10:38 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:
jimboston wrote:Legs

Thesis: Bugs have legs…. they have lots of legs… and their are way more bugs than eyes.


Counter thesis: Bugs have eyes, some bugs have lots of eyes. virtually no fish have feet


They do have fingers though.
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Re: "More of" game/argument

Postby mookiemcgee on Sat Aug 27, 2022 1:22 am

jimboston wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:
jimboston wrote:Legs

Thesis: Bugs have legs…. they have lots of legs… and their are way more bugs than eyes.


Counter thesis: Bugs have eyes, some bugs have lots of eyes. virtually no fish have feet


You’ll have to define what “lots of eyes” means.
You can’t claim a fly with two eyes has “lots of eyes” because they can see better.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+man ... ent=safari


most spider have 8 eyes... it's mostly irrelevant to the thesis though, consensus estimates state 70-80% of life on earth is underwater, and fish don't have legs.

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Re: "More of" game/argument

Postby mookiemcgee on Sat Aug 27, 2022 1:25 am

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mookiemcgee wrote:
jimboston wrote:Legs

Thesis: Bugs have legs…. they have lots of legs… and their are way more bugs than eyes.


Counter thesis: Bugs have eyes, some bugs have lots of eyes. virtually no fish have feet


They do have fingers though.


do you like fishsticks? you must be a...

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Re: "More of" game/argument

Postby jimboston on Sat Aug 27, 2022 6:53 am

Octopus, squids, crustaceans, etc…. all these underwater creatures have legs.
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Re: "More of" game/argument

Postby jimboston on Sat Aug 27, 2022 6:55 am

Insect

It hardly comes as a surprise that ants are the most numerous insect in the world. These colonial hymenopterans may number from 10-100,000 trillion individuals globally; there are more than 10,000 species. The springtails, or Collembola, used to hold the title, but they are no longer officially insects, but rather part of a larger subphylum that includes insects and several related creatures. Though a few species are considered pests, ants are hugely benefical in most environments, spreading seeds and disposing of detritus as they forage for food.

Ants have 6 legs and 2 eyes.
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Re: "More of" game/argument

Postby KoolBak on Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:59 am

Oh, thank the CC gods...an interesting thread!!

So I recently read:

According to The National Geographic Society and The Royal Entomological Society...There are 1.4 billion bugs per person on the earth.

Thassa crapload of LEGS.

Never seen any estimate of number of sea critters....

I'm still going legs.
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Re: "More of" game/argument

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:11 am

Yeah, I'll agree with legs.

Very few creatures have more than six eyes and many have only two, whereas insects have six legs, arachnids have eight, most sea crustaceans have 10, and there a many worms with dozens of legs.
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Re: "More of" game/argument

Postby jimboston on Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:29 am

https://www.quora.com/Are-there-more-in ... the-Planet

This estimates…

3.5 Trillion fish in our oceans

Now with insects no one knows how many insects but… ants alone are at least 10 Trillion…. when count other insects then insects are so numerous as to make the other animal families irrelevant in arguing this case.

Amphibians, birds, mammals, and “other” are all also so small in number (relative to insects) as to not really impact the answer.
This hurts my case as amphibians, birds, and mammals would have way more legs than eyes.

So really we just need to decided if insects have more legs or eyes.

Yeah some insects have a bunch of eyes… but many insects have a bunch of legs.

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The Millipede!

https://a-z-animals.com/blog/how-many-l ... pede-have/

300 legs on average?
Number of eyes… 2.

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Re: "More of" game/argument

Postby jonesthecurl on Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:49 am

Then there's this:
A fly has two compound eyes and each eye is made up between 3,000 and 6,000 simple eyes. These eyes create small pictures that allow the fly to see movements from the left, right, front and above. Flies do not see in one solid view or focus on a particular object like humans do.
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Re: "More of" game/argument

Postby mookiemcgee on Sat Aug 27, 2022 12:32 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:Then there's this:
A fly has two compound eyes and each eye is made up between 3,000 and 6,000 simple eyes. These eyes create small pictures that allow the fly to see movements from the left, right, front and above. Flies do not see in one solid view or focus on a particular object like humans do.


Monarch butterfly's have 12,000 eyes... but i think they are almost extinct so idk
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Re: "More of" game/argument

Postby jimboston on Sat Aug 27, 2022 12:40 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:Then there's this:
A fly has two compound eyes and each eye is made up between 3,000 and 6,000 simple eyes. These eyes create small pictures that allow the fly to see movements from the left, right, front and above. Flies do not see in one solid view or focus on a particular object like humans do.



Yeah… and that’s why I said this…

jimboston wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:
Counter thesis: Bugs have eyes, some bugs have lots of eyes. virtually no fish have feet


You’ll have to define what “lots of eyes” means.
You can’t claim a fly with two eyes has “lots of eyes” because they can see better.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+man ... ent=safari


So if we can’t agree on what an “eye” is…

I submit that for an eye to be an “eye” it must be a singular organ that is physically separate from other “eyes”.
So, as described by your post, a “fly has 2 eyes”. The “simple eyes” that are subsets of the main eyes are not distinct organs.

or as Saxi might say… “fake news”.
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Re: "More of" game/argument

Postby Quirk on Sun Aug 28, 2022 4:27 pm

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Re: "More of" game/argument

Postby mookiemcgee on Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:23 pm

Y'all just a bunch of eye haters, this is a hill i will die on. EYES>LEGS
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Re: "More of" game/argument

Postby jimboston on Sun Aug 28, 2022 7:22 pm

Quirk wrote:


Quirk votes for legs!

Legs win!
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