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Re: Remembering 9-11 ,20th Ann./Official Thread 2021!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:34 am

bigtoughralf wrote:Not for you, though. For you it's Muslims.


NO, idiots are a bigger threat.

And Muslim EXTREMISTS are just one of MANY THREATS. I did not impugn the peaceful attitude of ALL Muslims, most of whom (probably 99% or so) are good, peaceful, and caring people.

The post you reference is basically my only post on the threat of Muslim extremists. I think my posts on Afghanistan would reveal my approach to global issues. Further, I understand that NOT ALL MUSLIMS are the same. You apparently have a myopic view of the world. You also attempt to refute my charges with sarcasm, a couple of flippant remarks, and no facts. You ignore the fact that the USA is an incredibly diverse society, not a theocracy. Muslim extremists want a theocracy, where everyone is under Sharia Law.

Let's look at the evidence:

1) Muslim extremist commit 9/11 attacks. There was one other attack on the WTC, in 1993 or so, as I recall.

2) innocent civilians were targeted, NOT military ones. This is true of other attacks by Muslim EXTREMISTS besides the 9/11 attacks.

3) Look at other terrorist attacks by MUSLIM extremists in the USA and in Europe. Trucks have been a recent weapon utilized. I saw the Italian military on duty to protect the public at major tourist attractions when I was in Italy in 2019. THERE have been numerous attacks by Muslim EXTREMISTS, especially in France, in the past 20 years.

4) US Incursions into Afghanistan were based on the 9/11 attack; POTUS Bush responds to the threat "as a war-time President." I have already posted that the US stayed in Afghanistan MUCH TOO LONG.

5) I have already said that US-led military incursions in Iraq are not justified, in my mind.
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Re: Remembering 9-11 ,20th Ann./Official Thread 2021!!!

Postby bigtoughralf on Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:17 am

I mean, I said that events like 9/11 have served as a justification for the persecution and vilification of Muslims and your response was 'should we allow our daughters to be raped and our men to be beheaded?'. I guess the dignity and rights of Muslims living in Western countries are small fry compared to the imaginary hordes of savages you've read about online.

No doubt you also support blanket anti-extremism campaigns amd rhetoric targeted at all white people then, given how many white supremacist terror attacks Western countries have seen in recent years? What measures should we inplement: travel bans on people from majority white countries? Invade America, which hosts numerous online message boards used by supremacists to spread their ideology? Anti-extremism reeducation programmes for white people who display patronising attitudes to countries with majority non-white populations?
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Re: Remembering 9-11 ,20th Ann./Official Thread 2021!!!

Postby HitRed on Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:14 am

I do not discriminate like humans do. I created each and every person in my own likeness and image. I love all humans no matter their color of their skin, I created them by my own hand, each are special to me.

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Re: Remembering 9-11 ,20th Ann./Official Thread 2021!!!

Postby KoolBak on Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:16 am

....but if they don't kowtow to what someone says my opinions were AND my particular religion, f*ck 'em to Hell. 'Cause THAT exists too!

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Re: Remembering 9-11 ,20th Ann./Official Thread 2021!!!

Postby HitRed on Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:43 am

I am the true bread sent from Heaven to reveal the truth. The Kingdom of God is real. Hell too is real. These are truths that have been lied about, but both are very real. There are consequences for telling lies and misleading people with lies. Nothing has changed since I walked the earth so long ago. People still do not believe in me and people still tell lies thinking there are no consequences. There are less today that believe than in the day I walked the earth.

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Re: Remembering 9-11 ,20th Ann./Official Thread 2021!!!

Postby ConfederateSS on Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:16 pm

bigtoughralf wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:
bigtoughralf wrote:9/11 was a sad day. Supplied the propaganda for the US and other Western countries to vilify and persecute Muslims for 20 years and counting. It's a shame because it seems like the only chance for the Islamophobia to subside is for the Westerns to move on to a new scapegoat, who will then suffer in Muslims' place.


so, as Christians, at least many of us, we should turn the other cheek, forget and forgive, and also....

Allow our women and daughters to be raped and used as sex slaves?

And allow our men to get beheaded?

We cannot defend ourselves? from violent and murderous extremists of any sort? Muslim or Hindu or Communists? or...??

ALL Islamophobia is due ONLY to 9/11? and there are no other reasons to be wary of SOME Muslim extremists?

And where was the condemnation of violent Muslim extremists from the Muslim world?


Fair point. If you allow Ilhan Omar to wear a headscarf in the White House, or a man to have a beard in New York, the logical outcome will be 1 million Arabs descending on the US to rape every woman there. I don't know how I never realised that until now.

-------What are you afraid of History....Like I said ,the East and West have been fighting each other throughout time...When Joshua started a mass Genocide in the land of Canaan...His own Manifest Destiny...As Palistine has been fought over since....The British and French,took it from the Ottomans W W 1,The British handed back to The Sons of David ,after WW 2 after the Romans took it from the Sons of David and exiled them for 2,000 years,as the land switched hands by conquering armies,or Crusades from Both East and West....
-----------.From The Fall of Constantinople a great Victory for the East... Napoleon's greatest Victory ,came against the East, The Battle of the Pyramids....
------------Are you talking about The U.S. Government ,full of crap... separation of church and state....As prayer was taking out the public schools...So,as I went to a Catholic School,we stopped the national anthem at our sporting events,said the Prayer Our Father instead......
------------Yet ,everyone hates Catholics now a days for some reason...As during 2016 Election, Hillary Clinton and her campaign manager,called Catholics Mid-Evil Bastards, can't imagine why she lost Wisconsin,95% Catholic...go figure...
-----------Southwest Detroit ,borders...The Biggest Arabic community in the world outside The Middle East.... Dearborn,Mi...
-----------Boy,the separation of church and state don't apply.....You talk about I.Omar.....Here is one....A Muslim Women subbed for a teacher in a public school in Southwest Detroit,(Mostly Catholic Mexican area)....A friend of my niece...Was wearing ,A sweater that said Merry Christmas (Nov.2018)....She had on Christmas tree ear rings ....The Sub...wearing her Islam Head Scarf,head dress etc....Made the Mexican girl remove her ear rings and sweater...Yet ,she was allowed to wear her Head Scarf.....That might be the problem of East and West relations in America...The U.S. Government....As for the World...As the major religions fight between East and West,so the battle will go on through time,not to mention the economic factor...The fight over Oil in the Middle East....Go!Green! :D ....
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Re: Remembering 9-11 ,20th Ann./Official Thread 2021!!!

Postby bigtoughralf on Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:48 pm

Well this thread sure turned into an uncomfortable journey into the Islamophobia of the average American.
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Re: Remembering 9-11 ,20th Ann./Official Thread 2021!!!

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:36 pm

bigtoughralf wrote:Well this thread sure turned into an uncomfortable journey into the Islamophobia of the average American.


I'm an average American and I'm pro-Islam. Ask Duk.
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Re: Remembering 9-11 ,20th Ann./Official Thread 2021!!!

Postby KoolBak on Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:43 pm

I'm pro-gun. And ammo. Pro family. Pro working hard. Pro Golden Rule.

Could care less about your fantasy worlds and your opinion (not you Sexi....but those other toolz) :lol:

PS - PLEASE quit quoting them. Really much more pleasant when their drivel is hidden.
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Re: Remembering 9-11 ,20th Ann./Official Thread 2021!!!

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:04 pm

KoolBak wrote:I'm pro-gun. And ammo.


Me too.

KoolBak wrote:Pro family.


Anti-family here. Always crush up one of these and drop it my date's drink ...

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Re: Remembering 9-11 ,20th Ann./Official Thread 2021!!!

Postby KoolBak on Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:21 pm

:lol:
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Re: Remembering 9-11 ,20th Ann./Official Thread 2021!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:48 pm

bigtoughralf wrote:I mean, I said that events like 9/11 have served as a justification for the persecution and vilification of Muslims and your response was 'should we allow our daughters to be raped and our men to be beheaded?'. I guess the dignity and rights of Muslims living in Western countries are small fry compared to the imaginary hordes of savages you've read about online.

No doubt you also support blanket anti-extremism campaigns amd rhetoric targeted at all white people then, given how many white supremacist terror attacks Western countries have seen in recent years? What measures should we inplement: travel bans on people from majority white countries? Invade America, which hosts numerous online message boards used by supremacists to spread their ideology? Anti-extremism reeducation programmes for white people who display patronising attitudes to countries with majority non-white populations?


You again prove how myopic and narrow minded you are. I never suggested persecution of Muslims. OR anyone else. I suggested treating people with respect.

Pay attention to events in the world, AND try to use facts to support your allegations, that are mostly FALSE. btw. A spell checker would help too, ralf.

imaginary hordes of savages
?? Let us check FACTS, ralf:

Editor’s Note: This is a selective list which only includes attacks involving civilians.

CNN —
Here is some background information on terror attacks involving vehicles used as deadly weapons by radicalized individuals or terror groups.

Facts
Al Qaeda’s Yemeni branch encouraged its Western recruits to use trucks as weapons. A 2010 webzine article, “The Ultimate Mowing Machine,” called for deploying a pickup truck as a “mowing machine, not to mow grass but mow down the enemies of Allah.”

In September 2014, ISIS spokesman Abu Mohammad al-Adnani called for lone wolf attacks using improvised weaponry, “If you are not able to find an IED or a bullet, then single out the disbelieving American, Frenchman or any of their allies. Smash his head with a rock or slaughter him with a knife or run him over with your car or throw him down from a high place or choke him or poison him.”
THAT sounds like peaceful Muslims to me, ralf. And how many of the following attacks are IMAGINARY?

Timeline
March 3, 2006 - Mohammed Taheri-azar, an Iranian-American, drives an SUV into an area crowded with students at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Nine people sustain minor injuries during the attack, which Teheri-azar later says is retribution for the killing of Muslims overseas. He is convicted of attempted murder in 2008 and is sentenced to 33 years in prison.

October 22, 2014 - A 3-month-old girl and an Ecuadorian tourist are killed when a driver swerves into a crowd at a light rail station in Jerusalem. The driver, Abdel Rahman al-Shaludi, is shot and killed by police. Israeli media reported he published militant writing on Facebook and supported Hamas, a fundamentalist Islamic group that has conducted attacks in Gaza and the West Bank, but his family denied he supported Hamas or any terror organization.

July 14, 2016 - After a Bastille Day fireworks display in Nice, France, a man drives a 20-ton rental truck into the crowd, striking and killing 86 people. The attacker, Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel, 31, a Tunisian national, drives nearly a mile on the beachfront promenade before he is shot and killed by authorities. French officials say Bouhlel seemed to become radicalized “very quickly” by ISIS propaganda before the attack. He also suffered from mental illness, according to his father.

November 28, 2016 - At Ohio State University, 11 people are injured when a student, Abdul Razak Ali Artan, 18, carries out a car and knife attack. A campus police officer shoots and kills Artan, whom police believe was inspired by ISIS and the radical cleric, Anwar al-Awlaki.

December 19, 2016 - A Tunisian man drives a tractor trailer into a Christmas market in Berlin, killing 12 people. In the wake of the attack, authorities conduct a manhunt for Anis Amri, 24, throughout Europe. He is shot and killed by police in Milan, Italy, four days after the attack. Hours after Amri dies, ISIS releases a video of him pledging allegiance to the terrorist group.

March 22, 2017 - A man drives an SUV into a crowd on the sidewalk along the Westminster Bridge in London, killing at least four. After ramming the car into a barrier outside the House of Parliament, the driver exits the vehicle and stabs a police officer to death. The attacker is then gunned down by a police officer. The assailant, Khalid Masood, 52, of West Midlands, reportedly had a criminal record and may have had connections to violent extremism, British Prime Minister Theresa May says.

April 7, 2017 - Four people are killed when a truck drives into pedestrians on a busy street in the center of Stockholm, Sweden, before crashing into a department store. A fifth victim dies from her injuries three weeks later. The attacker, Rakhmat Akilov, a 39-year-old from Uzbekistan, admitted to carrying out a “terrorist crime,” his lawyer says. Akilov is later sentenced to life in prison.

June 3, 2017 - Eight people are killed in two terror attacks in central London before police shoot three suspects dead, the Metropolitan police say. The violence begins when a van swerves into throngs of pedestrians on London Bridge. The suspects then jump out of the van and proceed on foot to nearby Borough Market, a popular nightlife spot, where witnesses say they produce knives and slash indiscriminately at people in restaurants and bars. At least 48 people are taken to hospitals, according to the London Ambulance Service.

June 19, 2017 - Just after midnight, a van plows into a group of pedestrians who had attended late-night prayers at London’s Finsbury Park Mosque, killing one man and injuring 11 people. The driver is arrested at the scene for attempted murder and further held on suspicion of terrorism offenses. The suspect is later identified as Darren Osborne, 47, a resident of Cardiff in Wales, according to multiple UK media outlets. Osborne is later sentenced to life imprisonment with a minimum term of 43 years.

August 16-18, 2017 - At least 13 people are killed and about 100 are injured on August 17 after a van plows through a crowd of people in a popular tourist district in Barcelona, Spain. Two suspects are arrested, but the driver gets away, according to police. ISIS’ media wing, Amaq, issues a statement claiming responsibility, saying that the attackers are “soldiers of the Islamic State.” On August 18, in Cambrils, a coastal city around 100 kilometers from Barcelona, five attackers drive an Audi A3 into several pedestrians, killing one. The attackers are shot and killed by police. A house explosion on August 16, in Alcanar, south of Barcelona, is also believed to be connected to the attacks.

September 30-October 1, 2017 - On September 30 in Edmonton, Canada, a man purposely strikes a police officer with a white Chevrolet Malibu before jumping out of the vehicle, stabbing the officer several times with a knife and fleeing on foot. There is an ISIS flag in the car, which is later seized as evidence. Just before midnight that same day, a police officer stops a U-Haul truck at a checkpoint and recognizes the driver’s name as similar to that of the Chevrolet’s registered owner. The U-Haul truck then speeds off toward downtown Edmonton. During the chase, the truck deliberately attempts to hit pedestrians in crosswalks and alleys, injuring at least four pedestrians. Abdulahi Hasan Sharif, 30, a Somali refugee, is later charged with five counts of attempted murder, dangerous driving, criminal flight causing bodily harm and possession of a weapon for a dangerous purpose.

October 31, 2017 - Eight people are killed and almost a dozen injured when a 29-year-old man in a rented pickup truck drives down a busy bicycle path near the World Trade Center in New York. The captured suspect is identified as Sayfullo Habibullaevic Saipov. Authorities found a note near the truck used in the incident, claiming the attack was made in the name of ISIS, a senior law enforcement official said.

July 29, 2018 - Four cyclists - two Americans, a Swiss man and a man from the Netherlands - are killed and three others are injured when they are run down by a car in southern Tajikistan. The car’s occupants leave the vehicle and begin attacking the cyclists with knives. A day later, ISIS claims responsibility for the attack.

August 14, 2018 - A car crashes into security barriers outside the UK’s Houses of Parliament during the morning rush hour, injuring several people. The driver is arrested on suspicion of terrorist offenses. He is later identified as Salih Khater, a 29-year-old UK national who emigrated from Sudan.

August 18, 2020 - Police in Germany arrest a 30-year-old man after a series of motorway incidents in Berlin. Six people are injured in what prosecutors say is a “suspected Islamist act.”


https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/03/world/terrorist-attacks-by-vehicle-fast-facts/index.html
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Re: Remembering 9-11 ,20th Ann./Official Thread 2021!!!

Postby bigtoughralf on Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:59 am

saxitoxin wrote:
bigtoughralf wrote:Well this thread sure turned into an uncomfortable journey into the Islamophobia of the average American.


I'm an average American and I'm pro-Islam. Ask Duk.


Yes well I was already aware you're not like all the other boys.
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Re: Remembering 9-11 ,20th Ann./Official Thread 2021!!!

Postby bigtoughralf on Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:10 am

Day one in the Big Brother house:

jusplay4fun: 'I think everyone should be treated with respect'

Also foreplay4fun: 'While we're talking about Islam, I don't want anyone to rape my daughter, let's talk about terrorism'

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Day Two in the Big Brother house:

CSIS: 'two-thirds of terror attacks in the US are carried out by white supremacists, and most of the rest by anarchists and anti-fascists'

http://www.csis.org/analysis/war-comes- ... ted-states

4playforefun:???

Don't worry, I am sure jp4 will treat white people with the respect they deserve even after discovering the terror threat they pose.
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Re: Remembering 9-11 ,20th Ann./Official Thread 2021!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:08 pm

bigtoughralf wrote:Day one in the Big Brother house:

jusplay4fun: 'I think everyone should be treated with respect'

Also foreplay4fun: 'While we're talking about Islam, I don't want anyone to rape my daughter, let's talk about terrorism'

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Day Two in the Big Brother house:

CSIS: 'two-thirds of terror attacks in the US are carried out by white supremacists, and most of the rest by anarchists and anti-fascists'

http://www.csis.org/analysis/war-comes- ... ted-states

4playforefun:???

Don't worry, I am sure jp4 will treat white people with the respect they deserve even after discovering the terror threat they pose.


Despite ad hominem attacks on me by bigralf, I will provide facts that refute his basic charges.

First, I am NOT a hater of Muslims, blacks, or others. I do cite facts and go where the facts take us.

Second, ralf attempts to diminish the significance of attacks in the USA by Muslim EXTREMISTS by discussing minor threats that have killed a FEW by white supremacists. What does that tell you? He is selling red herrings.

I will use ralf's OWN Source here:

Despite these findings, this violence needs to be understood in historical context. The number of fatalities from terrorist attacks in the U.S. homeland is still relatively small compared to some periods in U.S. history, making it important not to overstate the threat.7 Roughly half of the years since 1994 had a greater number of fatalities from terrorism than 2020—at least between January 1 and August 31, 2020. There were also no mass-casualty terrorist attacks, a stark contrast from such incidents as the April 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, which killed 168 people; the September 2001 attacks, which killed nearly 3,000 people; and the June 2016 Orlando attack, which killed 49 people.

https://www.csis.org/analysis/war-comes-home-evolution-domestic-terrorism-united-states

Of the three incidents cited by ralf's source, two of three are by Muslim EXTREMISTS. And ralf wants to diminish the significance of these attacks that killed 49 and nearly 3,000 people. And the third was NOT by a white supremacist; it was by someone who was (basically) seeking revenge for the Waco incident under President Clinton.

Orlando, Florida CNN —
An American-born man who’d pledged allegiance to ISIS gunned down 49 people early Sunday at a gay nightclub in Orlando, the deadliest mass shooting in the United States and the nation’s worst terror attack since 9/11, authorities said.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/12/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting/index.html

Third, I provided a LONG LIST of terrorism by Muslim EXTREMISTS from 2006 to 2020 and bigralf IGNORES those. He cannot deny those facts, so he attacks the messenger by calling me names. That is a tactic of those who cannot argue facts, who cannot debate, and, generally, have low intelligence. Is that what we see now about bigralf?

Enough said.
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Re: Remembering 9-11 ,20th Ann./Official Thread 2021!!!

Postby riskllama on Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:47 pm

kind of like when you call saxi "suxi", jp???
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Re: Remembering 9-11 ,20th Ann./Official Thread 2021!!!

Postby bigtoughralf on Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:44 pm

riskllama wrote:kind of like when you call saxi "suxi", jp???


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Re: Remembering 9-11 ,20th Ann./Official Thread 2021!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:44 pm

riskllama wrote:kind of like when you call saxi "suxi", jp???


must have been a typo, l-e-mu :D :lol:
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Re: Remembering 9-11 ,20th Ann./Official Thread 2021!!!

Postby 2dimes on Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:37 pm

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Pro family.


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Re: Remembering 9-11 ,20th Ann./Official Thread 2021!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:43 am

bigtoughralf wrote:
riskllama wrote:kind of like when you call saxi "suxi", jp???


Mic Drop Moment (TM)


bigralf claims a Mic Drop Moment, but posts more on the same issue in another thread. He FAILED, again.

Re: Tackling white supremacist violence
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The good people of this forum have opted for drone strikes. Which white supremacist strongholds should we target? Connecticut?


That is one problem when trolls like ralf and suxi open multiple threads on the same or similar topic. They want to start another "mole" that needs to be whacked. They use and establish impediments to an honest and open discussion. They attempt to obfuscate, mislead, lie, and confuse those reading and responding. Further, they ignore facts and also misquote. They offer "Red Herrings" and "Cherry pick" data and quotes. I have shown how they both do so. I have shown 15 lies (as a minimum) that saxi has posted. bigralf is new to the game, (he is on game #7, and is 0-5 on completed games), so his record of lies is not yet as well-established.
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Re: Remembering 9-11 ,20th Ann./Official Thread 2021!!!

Postby bigtoughralf on Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:22 am

Well I never, citing a comprehensive report written by a respected American foreign policy think tank = 'cherry picking data'

What does posting a CNN article constitute? 'Thorough research'?
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Re: Remembering 9-11 ,20th Ann./Official Thread 2021!!!

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---------1)......9-11 is remembered...As an point that Brought America together for the 1st time in a long time...The American Spirit was up and flying....That is what 9-11 did...As History has stated ...The East and The West have fought for centuries....One attack will not start something on either side in the 21st Cen...
---------2) Stop nit picking yourself....I agree, Palestine was stolen ,With Joshua's Manifest Destiny...As you state their children's problems...Iran since the late 1970's...teaches it's children to Hate America ,Kill Americans...from day one...You fail to mention this :roll: .....
---------3) As to you other thread...You only play cheap Democrat Identity Politic Marxist crap...full of crap,made up of wild goose chases,Like The Russian Hoax against Trump,when it's Dems..Like the Biden family who deal with Russia...and Dem..Reps...That sleep with Chinese spies......As The Democratic Party tries to split the country apart...Instead of the American Spirit that brought America together after 9-11....
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-------------No! One if fooled by your words...No! One is buying what you're selling.... History isn't Buying your lies either....For you still won't recognize the Fact of the struggles throughout centuries of History,that have brought us to 2021... problems between East and West.... That's the problem with The Left trying to rewrite History... History can't be rewritten...It has already been cast in stone...You can't hide from it,ignore it...It will always be there...FOREVER :!: :!: :!: ..... O:) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:)
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Re: Remembering 9-11 ,20th Ann./Official Thread 2021!!!

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:17 am

LOL

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Re: Remembering 9-11 ,20th Ann./Official Thread 2021!!!

Postby bigtoughralf on Fri Sep 17, 2021 7:30 am

Is this that American guy who's convinced he's actually an Irish man named Paddy O'Biden? Someone should do a film about him, like Mad King George.
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Re: Remembering 9-11 ,20th Ann./Official Thread 2021!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:02 pm

Jews and Palestinians have been fighting for centuries, especially if you look at the Bible. Even without that, they fought each other before the Romans did the diaspora (the the dispersion of the Jewish people beyond Israel.)

BTW: I thought I read that Islam considers Jesus Christ as a prophet.

Muslims believe that Jesus (called “Isa” in Arabic) was a prophet of God and was born to a virgin (Mary). They also believe he will return to Earth before the Day of Judgment to restore justice

https://www.vox.com/2017/12/18/10660648/jesus-in-islam-muslims-believe-christmas-quran

Shortly after the Death of Mohammed, the Sunni and Shi'a have been fighting each other.

Shia and Sunni Islam are the two major denominations of Islam. The origin of their separation can be traced back to a dispute over the succession to the Islamic prophet Muhammad as a caliph of the Islamic community. After the death of the Islamic prophet Muhammad in AD 632, some believed that Muhammad's first successor should be Abu Bakr and a group of Muslims, who would come to be known as the Shia later on, believed that his successor should have been Ali instead. The dispute spread across various parts of the Muslim world, which eventually led to the Battle of Jamal and Battle of Siffin. The dispute intensified greatly after the Battle of Karbala, in which Hussein ibn Ali and his household were killed by the ruling Umayyad Caliph Yazid I, and the outcry for revenge divided the early Islamic community, which is known today as the Islamic schism to differentiate it from the Christian schism that happened later.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia%E2%80%93Sunni_relations

So the conflict is NOT just between Muslims and Christians, as some would have us think. I will not bother to retrace the HISTORY of the conflict between Muslims and Christians through much of Europe and Asia. I think ConfSS made some references there.

There have also been conflicts between Muslims and Hindus and they are NUMEROUS. I will merely provide ONE Link to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu%E2%80%93Islamic_relations#:~:text=There%20have%20been%20periodic%20instances,the%20Hindu%20and%20Muslim%20communities.

So my point is that the attempt by some to only emphasize CURRENT conflicts between Muslim EXTREMISTS and the USA is very myopic and narrowminded.
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